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Job applicants asked to turn over their Facebook passwords
New York Daily News ^ | Shannon McFarland

Posted on 03/20/2012 7:18:33 AM PDT by bjorn14

When Justin Bassett interviewed for a new job, he expected the usual questions about experience and references. So he was astonished when the interviewer asked for something else: his Facebook username and password.

Bassett, a New York City statistician, had just finished answering a few character questions when the interviewer turned to her computer to search for his Facebook page. But she couldn’t see his private profile. She turned back and asked him to hand over his login information.

Bassett refused and withdrew his application, saying he didn’t want to work for a company that would seek such personal information. But as the job market steadily improves, other job candidates are confronting the same question from prospective employers, and some of them cannot afford to say no.

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1 posted on 03/20/2012 7:18:40 AM PDT by bjorn14
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To: bjorn14

Heh.

The ideological equivalent of a drug test.


2 posted on 03/20/2012 7:19:37 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: bjorn14

Lucky for me, I don’t have a Facebook page.


3 posted on 03/20/2012 7:21:21 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: bjorn14

There goes my secret predilection for painted women who smell of cigarettes and vodka.


4 posted on 03/20/2012 7:22:00 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Westbrook

“The ideological equivalent of a drug test.”

Disagree. It’s more like asking to read an applicant’s diary. Far too invasive.


5 posted on 03/20/2012 7:22:35 AM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: Repeat Offender

Ya, I wondered about that. What about those of us who don’t do Facebook? Is there an assumption that everyone is on Facebook?

I have wondered about this. Is it legal to discriminate against someone in a job based on what is on Facebook?


6 posted on 03/20/2012 7:24:13 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: bjorn14

This is clearly overreaching by HR Departments which are usually stacked with power-tripping jerks. Unless a Facebook account is used by employees for business purposes, it’s not a company’s business what their employees are posting on their own time.


7 posted on 03/20/2012 7:25:27 AM PDT by reegs
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To: Repeat Offender

>> Lucky for me, I don’t have a Facebook page.

Neither do I. And I never will.

This here is reason number 1,372.


8 posted on 03/20/2012 7:25:56 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Repeat Offender

I don’t have one either. What happens when this becomes a disadvantage in getting a job, or other security screening.


9 posted on 03/20/2012 7:26:11 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: bjorn14

To the headline: just say no.


10 posted on 03/20/2012 7:26:38 AM PDT by svcw (CLEAN WATER & Education http://www.longlostsis.com/PI/MayanHelp2012.html)
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To: reegs

>> This is clearly overreaching by HR Departments which are usually stacked with power-tripping jerks.

On the other hand, once hired, the deck is completely stacked in the employee’s favor, thanks to decades of ‘rat-built labor laws.

Therefore when I hire I want to know A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y EVERYTHING about that candidate I can POSSIBLY know. Mistakes are just too expensive down the road.

Moral, if you want a job, keep your damn nose clean. REAL clean.


11 posted on 03/20/2012 7:30:09 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Repeat Offender; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued

Me either.

Now my alter ego, complete with a pseudonym and throwaway email address might have one.

But me? Never.


12 posted on 03/20/2012 7:30:38 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Establishment is the establishment.)
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To: bjorn14
Like I've said before, if this ever becomes the norm, all it's going to accomplish is force everyone to create a “dummy” profile with harmless pictures of kittens and inspirational quotes for the sole purpose of getting through the job interview. Heck, entire books will be written and web sites will be created on how to create the perfect dummy facebook page.
13 posted on 03/20/2012 7:30:49 AM PDT by apillar
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To: bjorn14

It is illegal to ask for such information. Extortion is illegal. The law makes it perfectly clear that private property remains private to an employer. They might as well ask for your bank account PIN or ask for the keys to your house.


14 posted on 03/20/2012 7:30:58 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: Nervous Tick

“Therefore when I hire I want to know A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y EVERYTHING about that candidate I can POSSIBLY know. “

Same back at ya. I want to know everything about my employer since so many are freaks and crooks. So, turn over your computer Internet logs so I can see what kind of pervet you are. I also want to see the company bank accounts to know you can actually pay me.


15 posted on 03/20/2012 7:32:40 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: bjorn14
Since (I believe) your birth date is part of your Facebook account info, this would be an illegal practice. Not to mention the other information that would be available (kids, religion, etc.).
16 posted on 03/20/2012 7:32:47 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Quit poking holes in the life raft!)
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To: Nervous Tick

“Moral, if you want a job, keep your damn nose clean. REAL clean.”

1,000% right! All it takes is one right click and save and ‘whatever’ is saved forever.


17 posted on 03/20/2012 7:33:00 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Establishment is the establishment.)
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To: Nervous Tick

So if I made a joke to a friend on my off time, you think you have a right to know that as the employer?


18 posted on 03/20/2012 7:33:18 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: bjorn14

Becaue my primary employment is military-related, I am forbidden to have a facebook or any similar account.


19 posted on 03/20/2012 7:36:09 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: bjorn14

I would tell him that’s private information and it’s not relevant to my job.


20 posted on 03/20/2012 7:36:19 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

>> Is it legal to discriminate against someone in a job based on what is on Facebook?

Is it legal to discriminate in hiring based on a candidate’s persona? Sure it is. Show me the law that says you HAVE to hire jerks, profane individuals, promiscuous individuals, party-boys and party-girls who will be hungover every morning, weirdos with strange cult beliefs, etc.

What a candidate posts on facebook, tweets, etc. is part of that persona.

Note that the OP isn’t about someone being “discriminated against” for their posts once they were hired (that may well be unlawful). It’s about vetting them DURING the hiring process. It’s hugely important these days to vet any and every way you can, because once you hire them you are sort of stuck with them.


21 posted on 03/20/2012 7:36:59 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: reegs

HR, El Diablo.


22 posted on 03/20/2012 7:37:03 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: bjorn14

Name of company doing the interviewing?


23 posted on 03/20/2012 7:38:08 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: CodeToad

Totally agree.

Some company is going to get slapped down so hard on this, the first time a good lawyer represents a 50-something lesbian minority applicant unhappy about this, they’ll rue the day they asked.

(trying to include all the protected groups, who could use this in court)


24 posted on 03/20/2012 7:38:15 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Repeat Offender

Me either. I don’t tweet either. The gov’mint has enough info on me without me just handing it out freely on the stinking internet.


25 posted on 03/20/2012 7:39:06 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (God is watching America. He is judging America. He does not like what He is seeing.)
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To: reegs

I agree. I haven’t interviewed people for about five years now, but at that time it was illegal to ask any question not directly related to the job it self. One wonders how an HR person could justify the question if challenged.


26 posted on 03/20/2012 7:39:26 AM PDT by svcw (CLEAN WATER & Education http://www.longlostsis.com/PI/MayanHelp2012.html)
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To: Nervous Tick

As Thomas Sowell has said, numerous times -

making it hard to fire people makes it hard to HIRE people.


27 posted on 03/20/2012 7:40:07 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: bjorn14

Deeply disturbing, and alarming it’s done on such a wide level:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46792761/


28 posted on 03/20/2012 7:41:04 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: Repeat Offender
Lucky for me, I don’t have a Facebook page.

Me neither. It's none of anyone elses business what I'm doing with my life. If I want to chat about it, I'll call or visit. We had one for family only, but other people kept trying to get in, too, simply because they knew someone who knew someone else. It was a real hassle.

The kids today know everything there is to know about everyone else, and that's turned out to be a dangerous game. It's socialism at it's worst. One kid says something bad about another on Facebook, and one of them ends up dead or their life is socially destroyed.

It's NOT cool! People take it all too seriously.

29 posted on 03/20/2012 7:41:46 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: bjorn14

My daughter’s prospective employer recently asked her for a copy of last year’s W2. She’s come to find out it’s getting to be standard practice because past employers can no longer give out any info on the ex-employee except the fact that they worked there and the prospective employer has to find out by other means if they are being given accurate information about past performance and earnings.


30 posted on 03/20/2012 7:42:28 AM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: EEGator

>> So if I made a joke to a friend on my off time, you think you have a right to know that as the employer?

No, of course as a potential employer I don’t have that *right*. I can request to know it, though, and once known, I can use the information to make a hiring decision.

In turn, as a potential employee, you dont’ have a *right* to be hired. If you want a job with me, you must agree to let me look closely at you. If you decide that’s too big a burden you are welcome to hit the bricks.

Hiring is an agreement entered into voluntarily by each party.

I’ll note — again — that this is NOT about an employer prying into the facebook of an existing employee. It’s about vetting an individual that VOLUNTARILY walked in the door requesting a job.


31 posted on 03/20/2012 7:42:53 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: reegs
This is clearly overreaching by HR Departments which are usually stacked with power-tripping jerks.

HR is populated with people who couldn't make it in government.

32 posted on 03/20/2012 7:43:22 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
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To: Rennes Templar

I don’t have one either. What happens when this becomes a disadvantage in getting a job, or other security screening.

People who don’t have a Facebook account will just have to look for a job elsewhere. What people COULD do is open an account and just not do anything with it.


33 posted on 03/20/2012 7:45:30 AM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: bjorn14

Why not just manage a sanitized version of your Facebook account, without the drunken bash pics and Obama-as-witch-doctor posts? This will likely also spell the end for Facebook as a place of open and honest exposure to family and friends.


34 posted on 03/20/2012 7:46:57 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Jewbacca
Becaue my primary employment is military-related, I am forbidden to have a facebook or any similar account.

Wow. You must be in some secret squirrel thing. The Navy specifically is using Facebook to get information out to the masses. Many in the leadership have an account to give out their views and info.

35 posted on 03/20/2012 7:47:22 AM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: tgusa; Impy; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj
No matter what position I've held or industry I've worked in, the HR department is the worst part of any organization, bar none. They are, by enlarge* worthless flunkies who should be sifting through garbage looking for redeemable cans and bottles to live off of.

What is both rage inducing and pathetically sad is that these flunkies hold tremendous sway as to whether you get hired or not.

I have more respect for drug dealers and pimps (both earth and non-Earth varieties) than I do for HR “recruiters”.

*I'll assume that there are 1 or 2 HR-types out there that are competent, but the remaining 99.999999999999998% are worthless.

36 posted on 03/20/2012 7:47:41 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Establishment is the establishment.)
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To: bjorn14

I’d tell the inquisitive employer that my private profile contained information about other potential employers that would be unethical to share.


37 posted on 03/20/2012 7:47:41 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: bjorn14

I would pointedly refuse, noting that I’m not in the habit of violating password security regardless of the supposed “authority” behind a request, and that I sincerely hope this was a test of my ability to avoid a social engineering attack.


38 posted on 03/20/2012 7:48:26 AM PDT by kevkrom (Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
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To: Nervous Tick

I understand your point, but soon enough someone is going to get sued big time.


39 posted on 03/20/2012 7:49:22 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Nervous Tick

Would you hand over your Facebook username and password to a prospective employee? He wants to know about you before committing to the job, after all.


40 posted on 03/20/2012 7:49:32 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: bjorn14

It’s easy to determine who to hire: (1) Ask who they voted for in 2008, or (2) Hire a FReeper.


41 posted on 03/20/2012 7:49:49 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Drill Thrawl

That is scary.


42 posted on 03/20/2012 7:50:21 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: CodeToad

>> Same back at ya. I want to know everything about my employer since so many are freaks and crooks. So, turn over your computer Internet logs so I can see what kind of pervet you are.

Ha ha! Good one! FAIR ENOUGH of you to ask!

Today my reply is “No Thank You.”

Next Coad Toad in line, please? :-)

(because code toads are a dime a dozen these days, and I don’t need one who comes off as a PITA from the get-go.)

The lesson here is hiring is market driven. I have hired back in code toad boom times too, when employers had to grit their teeth and put up with a certain amount of this crap from potential hirees.

I prefer it this way, of course. And no offense to you — I get your point.


43 posted on 03/20/2012 7:51:17 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: bjorn14
I agree with guy who said it's like asking for the keys to someone’s house.
“Thank you for answering my questions. Well, everything seems good here. OK, ready to go?”
“I'm sorry what?”
“Are you ready to go?”
“Go where?”
“To your house. Just a quick look through it and I'll be done.”
“What? What are you talking about? No you can't go through my house!”
“Look it's just a formality. I'm just going to look through all your family photos and rummage around in your closets. It'll be real quick.”
“No! What's wrong with you?!”
“I'm sorry. I thought you needed this job. OK, thank you for coming.”
“Wait! Alright. I guess you can look around.”
“Great! Oh, and before we go I'll need you to sign this form and provide me with a key so I can come in whenever I want.”
44 posted on 03/20/2012 7:52:16 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: bjorn14

An employee / employer relationship is MUTUAL, and some employers are pushing the fact that for now they have the upper hand.

If you get asked for anything like this you should silently fold up your stuff and LEAVE the interview. Don’t even say goodbye, they are not a place for liberty loving person to work. Walking away and not answering their questions from that point on is the only correct response.


45 posted on 03/20/2012 7:52:37 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- Twitter @KingCorey_Com)
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To: bjorn14
They already ask for your SS#, work history, educational history, past address records, arrest recrods, award/commendation history, driving record (when applicable); some give apptitude and personality tests, and don't forget drug testing.

If that's not enough, screw them and their job.
46 posted on 03/20/2012 7:53:06 AM PDT by FrankR
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To: bjorn14

If people willingly turn over their username/password, it’s their own fault. I wouldn’t and I’m glad this guy didn’t. A more reasonable alternative would be to have them on your friends list so that they can see your profile, rather than giving them your username/password. I would never let anyone have that information.


47 posted on 03/20/2012 7:53:53 AM PDT by Marko413
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To: napscoordinator

“You must be in some secret squirrel thing.”

Not really.

I’m Israeli and work for an Israeli military contractor that sells stuff to the USAF.

We had putzes posting FB pictures from inside nuclear sites. As a result, no FB for many, many.

Plus, certain groups use FB to play “where do the Jewish folk congregate” (so they can kill us).


48 posted on 03/20/2012 7:54:09 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Count me in on never having a Facebook account.


49 posted on 03/20/2012 7:54:28 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: Nervous Tick

Any applicant with sense and value (in other words, any applicant you’d actually want to hire), will correctly conclude pretty quick that the way you treat applicants, is a pretty good indication of the way you treat employees.

Something to consider.


50 posted on 03/20/2012 7:55:07 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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