Skip to comments.Job applicants asked to turn over their Facebook passwords
Posted on 03/20/2012 7:18:33 AM PDT by bjorn14
When Justin Bassett interviewed for a new job, he expected the usual questions about experience and references. So he was astonished when the interviewer asked for something else: his Facebook username and password.
Bassett, a New York City statistician, had just finished answering a few character questions when the interviewer turned to her computer to search for his Facebook page. But she couldnt see his private profile. She turned back and asked him to hand over his login information.
Bassett refused and withdrew his application, saying he didnt want to work for a company that would seek such personal information. But as the job market steadily improves, other job candidates are confronting the same question from prospective employers, and some of them cannot afford to say no.
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The ideological equivalent of a drug test.
Lucky for me, I don’t have a Facebook page.
There goes my secret predilection for painted women who smell of cigarettes and vodka.
“The ideological equivalent of a drug test.”
Disagree. It’s more like asking to read an applicant’s diary. Far too invasive.
Ya, I wondered about that. What about those of us who don’t do Facebook? Is there an assumption that everyone is on Facebook?
I have wondered about this. Is it legal to discriminate against someone in a job based on what is on Facebook?
This is clearly overreaching by HR Departments which are usually stacked with power-tripping jerks. Unless a Facebook account is used by employees for business purposes, it’s not a company’s business what their employees are posting on their own time.
>> Lucky for me, I dont have a Facebook page.
Neither do I. And I never will.
This here is reason number 1,372.
I don’t have one either. What happens when this becomes a disadvantage in getting a job, or other security screening.
To the headline: just say no.
>> This is clearly overreaching by HR Departments which are usually stacked with power-tripping jerks.
On the other hand, once hired, the deck is completely stacked in the employee’s favor, thanks to decades of ‘rat-built labor laws.
Therefore when I hire I want to know A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y EVERYTHING about that candidate I can POSSIBLY know. Mistakes are just too expensive down the road.
Moral, if you want a job, keep your damn nose clean. REAL clean.
Now my alter ego, complete with a pseudonym and throwaway email address might have one.
But me? Never.
It is illegal to ask for such information. Extortion is illegal. The law makes it perfectly clear that private property remains private to an employer. They might as well ask for your bank account PIN or ask for the keys to your house.
“Therefore when I hire I want to know A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y EVERYTHING about that candidate I can POSSIBLY know. “
Same back at ya. I want to know everything about my employer since so many are freaks and crooks. So, turn over your computer Internet logs so I can see what kind of pervet you are. I also want to see the company bank accounts to know you can actually pay me.
“Moral, if you want a job, keep your damn nose clean. REAL clean.”
1,000% right! All it takes is one right click and save and ‘whatever’ is saved forever.
So if I made a joke to a friend on my off time, you think you have a right to know that as the employer?
Becaue my primary employment is military-related, I am forbidden to have a facebook or any similar account.
I would tell him that’s private information and it’s not relevant to my job.
>> Is it legal to discriminate against someone in a job based on what is on Facebook?
Is it legal to discriminate in hiring based on a candidate’s persona? Sure it is. Show me the law that says you HAVE to hire jerks, profane individuals, promiscuous individuals, party-boys and party-girls who will be hungover every morning, weirdos with strange cult beliefs, etc.
What a candidate posts on facebook, tweets, etc. is part of that persona.
Note that the OP isn’t about someone being “discriminated against” for their posts once they were hired (that may well be unlawful). It’s about vetting them DURING the hiring process. It’s hugely important these days to vet any and every way you can, because once you hire them you are sort of stuck with them.
HR, El Diablo.
Name of company doing the interviewing?
Some company is going to get slapped down so hard on this, the first time a good lawyer represents a 50-something lesbian minority applicant unhappy about this, they’ll rue the day they asked.
(trying to include all the protected groups, who could use this in court)
Me either. I don’t tweet either. The gov’mint has enough info on me without me just handing it out freely on the stinking internet.
I agree. I haven’t interviewed people for about five years now, but at that time it was illegal to ask any question not directly related to the job it self. One wonders how an HR person could justify the question if challenged.
As Thomas Sowell has said, numerous times -
making it hard to fire people makes it hard to HIRE people.
Deeply disturbing, and alarming it’s done on such a wide level:
Me neither. It's none of anyone elses business what I'm doing with my life. If I want to chat about it, I'll call or visit. We had one for family only, but other people kept trying to get in, too, simply because they knew someone who knew someone else. It was a real hassle.
The kids today know everything there is to know about everyone else, and that's turned out to be a dangerous game. It's socialism at it's worst. One kid says something bad about another on Facebook, and one of them ends up dead or their life is socially destroyed.
It's NOT cool! People take it all too seriously.
My daughter’s prospective employer recently asked her for a copy of last year’s W2. She’s come to find out it’s getting to be standard practice because past employers can no longer give out any info on the ex-employee except the fact that they worked there and the prospective employer has to find out by other means if they are being given accurate information about past performance and earnings.
>> So if I made a joke to a friend on my off time, you think you have a right to know that as the employer?
No, of course as a potential employer I don’t have that *right*. I can request to know it, though, and once known, I can use the information to make a hiring decision.
In turn, as a potential employee, you dont’ have a *right* to be hired. If you want a job with me, you must agree to let me look closely at you. If you decide that’s too big a burden you are welcome to hit the bricks.
Hiring is an agreement entered into voluntarily by each party.
I’ll note — again — that this is NOT about an employer prying into the facebook of an existing employee. It’s about vetting an individual that VOLUNTARILY walked in the door requesting a job.
HR is populated with people who couldn't make it in government.
I dont have one either. What happens when this becomes a disadvantage in getting a job, or other security screening.
People who don’t have a Facebook account will just have to look for a job elsewhere. What people COULD do is open an account and just not do anything with it.
Why not just manage a sanitized version of your Facebook account, without the drunken bash pics and Obama-as-witch-doctor posts? This will likely also spell the end for Facebook as a place of open and honest exposure to family and friends.
Wow. You must be in some secret squirrel thing. The Navy specifically is using Facebook to get information out to the masses. Many in the leadership have an account to give out their views and info.
What is both rage inducing and pathetically sad is that these flunkies hold tremendous sway as to whether you get hired or not.
I have more respect for drug dealers and pimps (both earth and non-Earth varieties) than I do for HR “recruiters”.
*I'll assume that there are 1 or 2 HR-types out there that are competent, but the remaining 99.999999999999998% are worthless.
I’d tell the inquisitive employer that my private profile contained information about other potential employers that would be unethical to share.
I would pointedly refuse, noting that I’m not in the habit of violating password security regardless of the supposed “authority” behind a request, and that I sincerely hope this was a test of my ability to avoid a social engineering attack.
I understand your point, but soon enough someone is going to get sued big time.
Would you hand over your Facebook username and password to a prospective employee? He wants to know about you before committing to the job, after all.
It’s easy to determine who to hire: (1) Ask who they voted for in 2008, or (2) Hire a FReeper.
That is scary.
>> Same back at ya. I want to know everything about my employer since so many are freaks and crooks. So, turn over your computer Internet logs so I can see what kind of pervet you are.
Ha ha! Good one! FAIR ENOUGH of you to ask!
Today my reply is “No Thank You.”
Next Coad Toad in line, please? :-)
(because code toads are a dime a dozen these days, and I don’t need one who comes off as a PITA from the get-go.)
The lesson here is hiring is market driven. I have hired back in code toad boom times too, when employers had to grit their teeth and put up with a certain amount of this crap from potential hirees.
I prefer it this way, of course. And no offense to you — I get your point.
An employee / employer relationship is MUTUAL, and some employers are pushing the fact that for now they have the upper hand.
If you get asked for anything like this you should silently fold up your stuff and LEAVE the interview. Don’t even say goodbye, they are not a place for liberty loving person to work. Walking away and not answering their questions from that point on is the only correct response.
If people willingly turn over their username/password, it’s their own fault. I wouldn’t and I’m glad this guy didn’t. A more reasonable alternative would be to have them on your friends list so that they can see your profile, rather than giving them your username/password. I would never let anyone have that information.
“You must be in some secret squirrel thing.”
I’m Israeli and work for an Israeli military contractor that sells stuff to the USAF.
We had putzes posting FB pictures from inside nuclear sites. As a result, no FB for many, many.
Plus, certain groups use FB to play “where do the Jewish folk congregate” (so they can kill us).
Count me in on never having a Facebook account.
Any applicant with sense and value (in other words, any applicant you’d actually want to hire), will correctly conclude pretty quick that the way you treat applicants, is a pretty good indication of the way you treat employees.
Something to consider.