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The CIA wants to spy on you through your TV
Daily Mail UK ^ | March 16, 2012 | Rob Waugh

Posted on 03/20/2012 11:13:10 AM PDT by Neil E. Wright

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The CIA wants to spy on you through your TV: Agency director says it will 'transform' surveillance

When people download a film from Netflix to a flatscreen, or turn on web radio, they could be alerting unwanted watchers to exactly what they are doing and where they are.

Spies will no longer have to plant bugs in your home - the rise of 'connected' gadgets controlled by apps will mean that people 'bug' their own homes, says CIA director David Petraeus.

The CIA claims it will be able to 'read' these devices via the internet - and perhaps even via radio waves from outside the home.

A Sony internet TV: The rise of 'connected' devices in the home offers spies a window into people's lives - CIA director David Petraeus says the technologies will 'transform' surveillance

A Sony internet TV: The rise of 'connected' devices in the home offers spies a window into people's lives - CIA director David Petraeus says the technologies will 'transform' surveillance


(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: cia; constitution; internet; spying
Time to rethink this "Always on Internet" thing!!!

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1 posted on 03/20/2012 11:13:18 AM PDT by Neil E. Wright
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To: Neil E. Wright

Petraeus, eh?


2 posted on 03/20/2012 11:16:22 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

I’m betting the CIA could care less about what I am doing. YMMV.


3 posted on 03/20/2012 11:17:18 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: Neil E. Wright
Time to rethink this "Always on Internet" thing!!!

Was banging that drum back in the late 90s.

4 posted on 03/20/2012 11:18:01 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: onedoug

Yup, that is the one Hillary called a Liar in the senate hearings...


5 posted on 03/20/2012 11:21:19 AM PDT by JoanneSD (TEA PARTY VERSES TEE TIME)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Apparently people have been spying through the cameras on computers and laptops for quite a while now.

How is this possible with a tv? Are there tvs with cameras now?

And of course anyone with a cellphone is a GPS tracking device, and anyone with an internet connection is susceptible of being tracked.

I love technology but it certainly undermines one’s privacy.


6 posted on 03/20/2012 11:22:16 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: Neil E. Wright

Old news is bad news. Alex Jones has been yelling about this for years, that there are listening devices in not only all new TV’s but in all the fairly new cable boxes (our cable guy practically stole one of the old boxes a year ago which, according to Jones, doesn’t have the remote device). Jones says that “they” can see out from the TV as well as from all computers equipped with mikes and cameras. This is what he says, don’t blame the messenger, and he claims to base all his claims on existing and already signed legislation.


7 posted on 03/20/2012 11:22:29 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . 2012 for change, this time for the people)
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To: Neil E. Wright
The CIA wants to spy on you through your TV

OK, they asked for it.

8 posted on 03/20/2012 11:25:50 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Neil E. Wright

I pity the person assigned to monitor my life. Hope he brings along a good book to keep him occupied.


9 posted on 03/20/2012 11:26:08 AM PDT by albionin
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To: AtlasStalled

1984 is getting closer and closer.


10 posted on 03/20/2012 11:26:08 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: BlueStateBlues
Alex Jones has been yelling about this for years

Alex Jones has been yelling about a lot of things for a lot of years.

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11 posted on 03/20/2012 11:28:34 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
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To: BlueStateBlues; tomkat; Questori; Taxman; lightman

For years, I always thought he was a kook; now, I may have to re-visit his site. If what he’s saying is even 50% accurate, we all should be worried/scared sh*tless.


12 posted on 03/20/2012 11:29:09 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: Peter from Rutland
I’m betting the CIA could care less about what I am doing

Heh.
CIA, maybe not.
Homeland Security, maybe.
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13 posted on 03/20/2012 11:31:02 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: Rennes Templar
1984 is getting closer and closer.

Double plus ungood.

14 posted on 03/20/2012 11:31:49 AM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Brass, copper, lead. The new precious metals.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

It seems that only a tv connected to the internet can be used as a tracking device but there’s nothing really new about the internet being used as a platform for spying. I’ve always assumed anything connected to the internet is an open book, and can be readily accessed by prying eyes whether by those armed with a search warrant, an intelligence operative or some troublesome hacker or malicious criminal.

I think the most under-reported story out there is how insecure the internet highway is, and when there are reports of U.S. predator drones being hijacked by Iranian hackers or Iranian nuclear facilities being shutdown by internet worms, then you realize just how insecure the whole system is. When governments can’t protect their own connected devices, then you know it’s bad.


15 posted on 03/20/2012 11:33:54 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled

“How is this possible with a tv? Are there tvs with cameras now?”

Who really knows? With all the *electronic gizmos* inside those things, there might/could be... Maybe they can see out from the screen? That’s all above/beyond my pay grade. We need an engineer or someone who *knows that gizmo stuff*.


16 posted on 03/20/2012 11:34:53 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: Neil E. Wright

I thought they’d been able to do this for years with fiber optics. What else is new?


17 posted on 03/20/2012 11:37:20 AM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: Neil E. Wright

I thought they’d been able to do this for years with fiber optics. What else is new?


18 posted on 03/20/2012 11:37:28 AM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: Neil E. Wright

I thought they’d been able to do this for years with fiber optics. What else is new?


19 posted on 03/20/2012 11:37:31 AM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: Neil E. Wright

I thought they’d been able to do this for years with fiber optics. What else is new?


20 posted on 03/20/2012 11:37:43 AM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: Peter from Rutland
I’m betting the CIA could care less about what I am doing.

Unless of course you run for public office or protest against the government, then they'll pull up all the info on you just to destroy you.

21 posted on 03/20/2012 11:41:00 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Neil E. Wright
As a kid I was fascinated with the timers my grandparents used for their lights to give their house a lived-in look while they were gone on vacation. Maybe we need IR remotes which can turn on the TV and various other household electronics to keep people who are paying attention to such things busy.
22 posted on 03/20/2012 11:42:45 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: Peter from Rutland

That would work under the false assumption that they are only interested in compiling information about people engaged in anti-American or criminal activities.

The truth is that the 16 major US intelligence agencies, 100+ federal police agencies, and many others, foreign, corporate and individuals, have had more than enough surveillance powers to scrutinize serious threats.

So today, information accumulation is done for odd and arcane purposes, such as an overall sense of voyeurism, the actual resentment of privacy by others and an almost sexual enjoyment of surreptitiously gathering information about others; to incredibly advanced data mining software that always promises to deliver hidden knowledge if only it is given more data (but never does deliver).

Bureaucrats crave such compilation, because it also offers them the illusion of less work on their part. Utterly useless technologies like “terrorism detection facial and speech recognition” never work, but are tried again and again in the hope that someday they shall.

In Britain, and now coming to the US is yet another deception, the belief that a multitude of cameras in public places will achieve something. Since only a retarded person can gaze at monitors all day without going mad, and no software exists that can actually determine when a person on camera is doing something improper, such cameras are a waste of time and money.

In the UK, the government is now offering cash rewards to citizens to monitor the cameras watching them, in case they see something interesting. It is utter failure.

In the final analysis, when a government becomes terribly inefficient is dealing with the large issues of a nation, it often instead becomes obsessed with unimportant minutiae. This is an indicator that is it failing, and needs to be replaced.


23 posted on 03/20/2012 11:52:34 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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To: Neil E. Wright

Interesting.

This article did not even mention the miniature video cameras with wireless uplinks to a surveillance satellites which are built in to every new TV - behind the screen, aiming out...

; - )


24 posted on 03/20/2012 11:59:52 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: rarestia
two words for ya....smart meter
25 posted on 03/20/2012 12:00:02 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: carriage_hill
“How is this possible with a tv? Are there tvs with cameras now?”

There's no camera in the TV. What they can do, though, is pick up the modulation on the electron beam that scans the TV screen to create the picture.

It's been years since I worked with classified computers, but back then the monitor had to be TEMPEST certified, because otherwise someone near the building could pick up what was on the screen, by detecting that modulation.

In England, where radio and TV sets have to be licensed, the "TV police" use to drive up and down the streets listening for the Local Oscillator of radios and TVs. They could tell if you were using an unlicensed set. Had they wanted to, they could have listened or watched what you were listening to or watching.

They can't see you, but they can tell what you're watching.

I don't know if this is still possible with TVs with plasma or LCD screens, nor with digital TVs.

26 posted on 03/20/2012 12:16:19 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney
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To: Peter from Rutland
I’m betting the CIA could care less about what I am doing.

Probably so. But someone who has funding authority over them may care a lot.

27 posted on 03/20/2012 12:24:37 PM PDT by Grut
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To: WayneS

Seriously? Tell me more.


28 posted on 03/20/2012 12:33:19 PM PDT by conservativesister
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To: WayneS

Seriously? Tell me more.


29 posted on 03/20/2012 12:33:38 PM PDT by conservativesister
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To: Neil E. Wright

Funny, I thought the CIA want supposed to be conducting operations inside the USA , spying on us citizens.


30 posted on 03/20/2012 12:43:03 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: AtlasStalled

A short peice of black, electrical tape over the lens should stop that....


31 posted on 03/20/2012 12:45:46 PM PDT by FrankR
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To: Neil E. Wright

32 posted on 03/20/2012 12:59:36 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: Peter from Rutland

That really isn’t the point.


33 posted on 03/20/2012 1:08:06 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: rarestia
Was banging that drum back in the late 90s.

Every since we have been connected to cable and TV's all became instant on, they have had the capability to listen to you, now they will be wanting to look at me sleep. Look at the money we could save on sleep centers alone.

34 posted on 03/20/2012 1:25:56 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are my comments.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
and no software exists that can actually determine when a person on camera is doing something improper,

And you know this how? We are about to see single Atoms used as switches, the computing power that will result from that is unimaginable.

Bear in mind that stuff has been revealed for public consumption, so I would imagine that there ae some unknown advances already.

Sky Net run amok. 👿

35 posted on 03/20/2012 1:38:55 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are my comments.)
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To: JoeFromSidney
I don't know if this is still possible with TVs with plasma or LCD screens, nor with digital TVs.

There was some talk a couple years back, about spreading the CC device among the pixels of the screen in order to let you look directly at the person on the screen when teleconferencing, instead of looking at the top of the screen and looking retarded.

36 posted on 03/20/2012 1:44:27 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are my comments.)
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To: Neil E. Wright
The t.v. in my room may already be spying on me. It has a little red light that never goes off and calls me ‘Dave’ when it talks to me.
The government doctor says this would be normal....if I actually owned a t.v.
Do you think it's the Culinary Institute of America trying to steal my secret recipes?
37 posted on 03/20/2012 2:10:46 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

Red scanner lasers! The clerk at QT scanned me last night.


38 posted on 03/20/2012 2:46:05 PM PDT by quickquiver (No, means N O.)
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To: Neil E. Wright

How about just putting your tv into a nice armoire and closing the door? It’s going to be mighty hard for a camera to see through wood doors, especially those with a tin foil lining (attached with duct tape, of course).


39 posted on 03/20/2012 3:00:02 PM PDT by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed Catholic Texan)
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To: AtlasStalled

Didn’t they do that in the book 1984?


40 posted on 03/20/2012 3:37:09 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: itsahoot

Be sure to let me know when software knows what lies in our hearts and souls. People can’t even tell for certain when we are lying to them, what their physical intentions are, and certainly not their tactics and strategy.

To make matters worse, a camera can only see from one angle.


41 posted on 03/20/2012 3:52:34 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Be sure to let me know when software knows what lies in our hearts and souls.

It really doesn’t have to know, it need to only act like it knows to serve their purpose.

Having said that we will soon be seeing computers that can calculate a billion or trillion times faster than what we are using today, they will challenge the bounds of reality. There are patterns to everyones behavior, computers if they have enough data can see the changes and predict responses.No one can foresee what people might do with that kind of tool. If history is any teacher, they won't use it for our good, but theirs only.

I like to think about the Bible in terms of types and shadows, if one were to make that assumption they might see a story in Genesis where God has seen man eat of the forbidden fruit and God declared, let Us remove them from the Garden lest they become Gods like us.

I think we are about to be removed, again.

42 posted on 03/21/2012 12:33:54 AM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are my comments.)
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