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Romney schools 'free birth control' student
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | 3/20/12 | Charlie Spiering

Posted on 03/20/2012 12:05:13 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative

March 20, 2012 10:48am 172 Comments Romney schools 'free birth control' student byCharlie Spiering Commentary Staff Writer Follow on Twitter:

Campaigning at Bradley University in Peoria, Ill. yesterday, Mitt Romney quickly criticized a student for wanting "free stuff" from the government.

"You're all for like 'yay freedom and all this stuff and yay pursuit of happiness,'" said the college-aged girl. "You know what would make me happy? Free birth control."

"Let me tell you something, if you're looking for free stuff that you don't have to pay for, vote for the other guy," Romney told the student. "That's what he's all about."

Romney continued, "Politicians get up and promise you all kinds of free stuff, more and more stuff that you won't have to pay for and you know what? We get elected that way, in many cases, politicians do, that's not something I subscribe to.

Romney insisted on telling the truth to voters and "demand sacrifices" from people.

"The idea that of borrowing a trillion dollars more than we bring in is not just bad economics, its immoral," Romney said to the crowd.


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To: Wilderness Conservative
Mitt’s not my first choice by a long shot but short of a miracle at the convention it looks like he will end up with the nomination.

Funny, I posted no such assertion to you, in fact your response makes no sense at all.

I simply stated that if you thought this response from him was going to win over Conservatives you were wrong.

Why so defensive?

41 posted on 03/20/2012 12:56:44 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Declarative, not defensive.


42 posted on 03/20/2012 1:02:58 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative
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To: Las Vegas Ron
LOL, you got that right. But not necessarily because they weren't fine girls. We usually waited to have a job before marring then too.
43 posted on 03/20/2012 1:06:29 PM PDT by dblshot (Insanity: electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: Wilderness Conservative
Declarative, not defensive.

Uh huh....

44 posted on 03/20/2012 1:07:49 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Err, I don't think he was talking about the girls you wanted to marry ;)

Responsibility requires making decisions based on something higher than fleshly urges. It is no small matter to joke about the evil of fornication when fornication is destroying the land. The fact that these women desire to frequently fornicate and have it subsidized is doubly troubling. Both are destructive and morally repugnant. Men have been duped into acting as sexual predators not gentlemen who protect a woman's honor and chastity; while women have been brainwashed in to believing that sex has no consequences other than the leverage over men that it provides. Fornication destroys culture and it is toxic to marriage.

We will never balance the budget or maximize liberty, so long as we are flaunting our immorality and hatred of the God of morality. America was great before we screwed our neighbor, screwed his daughter and screwed the whole blessings of providence up. Get married and have all sex you can stand and then stay married. Teach it to your children and resist the propaganda that is designed to enslave and destroy.

45 posted on 03/20/2012 1:07:59 PM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Bishop Romney could give the most conservative speech ever uttered by a human and I’d still never vote for him. The man is a fake everything.


46 posted on 03/20/2012 1:20:48 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

There you are.


47 posted on 03/20/2012 1:21:40 PM PDT by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to slaughter anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Wilderness Conservative
"You're all for like 'yay freedom and all this stuff and yay pursuit of happiness,'" said the college-aged girl.

How did someone that can't put together a proper sentence get into college in the first place?!

48 posted on 03/20/2012 1:22:29 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: DaveyB
I can't disagree with a thing you wrote.

The fact of the matter is that not everyone sees it the way you and I do.

I agree with you because of wisdom gained through age. When I was a youngin with hormones raging and plenty of available escapades, well, it is what it is.

My comment was true, there will always be “those” girls and plenty of men to take advantage of them.

It's a fact of life since the beginning.

This isn't the first time Man has fallen, it won't be the last. The difference is, this time the Government and the libs think others should be forced to pay for it.

49 posted on 03/20/2012 1:24:27 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: dblshot

Insightful. ‘nuf said.


50 posted on 03/20/2012 1:35:47 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
The fact of the matter is that not everyone sees it the way you and I do.

That is why we must stop the crude joking and give voice for moral standard. It does not need to be like it is now. There has always been fornication, true enough, but it was also shameful enough that it wasn't on prime-time TV and no way would a co-ed ask to have her shame subsidized. It is when the moral are shamed into silence that the immoral display their shame without opposition. We need to continually and constantly say we do not approve what God does not approve. Fornication, adultery, homosexuality, bestiality, socialism, euthanasia, abortion, blasphemy, sexually immodest dress in public, mass marketing of porn, government deceit, government control of private property by a thousand regulations and public school sex education etc. ad nauseam - I do not approve. Until the moral speak up the immoral will prevail.

51 posted on 03/20/2012 1:48:33 PM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: DaveyB
Again, I don't disagree with a thing you wrote, especially your point of shame.

Shame was removed in the 60's in the "if it feels good do it" generation. When there is no shunning of unacceptable, immoral behavior from the good people, media, and leadership, there cannot be a moral society. IMO of course.

Short of a major revelation in this Country, World for that matter, we've lost.

I don't believe I have made light or humor of this predicament in any of my posts, If I inadvertently done so, that was not my intent. I did try to state what I believe as fact though.

52 posted on 03/20/2012 2:09:16 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Wilderness Conservative
...if you're looking for free stuff that you don't have to pay for, vote for the other guy," Romney told the student.

But then he blew the teachable moment. He should have pointed out to the student that as soon as she gets comfortable, the "free stuff" will be taken from her so someone else won't "have to pay for" it.

53 posted on 03/20/2012 2:11:09 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
When there is no shunning of unacceptable, immoral behavior from the good people, media, and leadership, there cannot be a moral society.

Word.

54 posted on 03/20/2012 2:11:53 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I don’t get your point. Yes, millions of Americans are getting freebies and benefits of all kinds, and one “sacrifice” that’s needed is to give them up in order to save the fiscal integrity of our country.

I can’t think of another sacrifice government is entitled to, other than military service and paying taxes.

If you don’t like to think of cutbacks as a sacrifice, that’s fine but it’s common for conservatives to speak in those terms.


55 posted on 03/20/2012 2:53:44 PM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Williams
I don’t get your point. Yes, millions of Americans are getting freebies and benefits of all kinds, and one “sacrifice” that’s needed is to give them up in order to save the fiscal integrity of our country.

Wow, I guess I didn't realize we have fallen so far as to say that giving up freebies, unconstitutional theft from productive citizens is somehow "sacrifice". Romney, if we was a Conservative would have pointed that out, yes?

I can’t think of another sacrifice government is entitled to, other than military service and paying taxes.

Last I checked, Government is Constitutionally mandated to secure and protect this Country, yes?

If you don’t like to think of cutbacks as a sacrifice, that’s fine but it’s common for conservatives to speak in those terms.

NO, I do not think as unconstitutional cutbacks as sacrifice, I view them as unconstitutional in the firs place ans should not exist.

How can you define something that should not exist in the first place as a cutback?

Sounds like the logic of cutting growth is the same as defunding, typical lib speak to me.

56 posted on 03/20/2012 3:08:27 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

OK, well I will just bet that Santorum and Gingrich both talk in terms of “sacrifice” when it comes to reducing government spending. For one thing a lot of spending that needs to be cut is in terms of social security and other programs which a lot of people were depending on. So cutting those back is referred to as “sacrifice”. I agree denying funding for contraceptives is not much of a sacrifice.

I also will bet the other candidates, with the possible exception of Ron Paul, have not argued that all these government programs are “unconstitutional”. But if you want to argue that calling for sacrifice by cutting government spending is lib talk, that’s fine. I think it’s nit picking when in this case Romney told the woman if she wants freebies, to vote for Obama. I think that was pretty clear.


57 posted on 03/20/2012 3:29:09 PM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Williams
OK, well I will just bet that Santorum and Gingrich both talk in terms of “sacrifice” when it comes to reducing government spending.

We'll see. If they do, it speaks for it's self, doesn't it?

For one thing a lot of spending that needs to be cut is in terms of social security and other programs which a lot of people were depending on.

First, those programs (which are unconstitutional to begin with, but are third rails) need to have their funding put into dedicated accounts, not the general fund. You and I both know these are nothing but political footballs, the concept of these ideas must be reversed...I know, all but impossible.

I agree denying funding for contraceptives is not much of a sacrifice.

Really, "not so much a sacrifice"? Where in the Constitution does it say anyone can take my money to pay for another's playtime? Seems to me I'm the one who is sacrificing, actually I'm getting raped.

I also will bet the other candidates, with the possible exception of Ron Paul, have not argued that all these government programs are “unconstitutional”.

Ah, I get it now, a Paul bot, good luck with that. Where is Paul on this BTW?

But if you want to argue that calling for sacrifice by cutting government spending is lib talk, that’s fine.

 

That's not what I wrote.

I think it’s nit picking when in this case Romney told the woman if she wants freebies, to vote for Obama. I think that was pretty clear.

FUMR

 

58 posted on 03/20/2012 4:19:40 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Dude I’m not a Paul bot however I hope you enjoyed having an argument.


59 posted on 03/20/2012 6:09:29 PM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Williams
Dude I’m not a Paul bot however I hope you enjoyed having an argument.

Perhaps you should convey your thoughts better.

I thought we were having a discussion, isn't that what this forum is about?

We obviously have difference of opinion as to what constitutes sacrifice and how it pertains to the Constitution and politics.

So be it.

60 posted on 03/20/2012 6:17:09 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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