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IL GOP Primary (Live Thread)
03-20-2012

Posted on 03/20/2012 4:21:26 PM PDT by parksstp

Did not see a thread started for tonight. About 50 mintues before polls close.

Tonight, it's important to keep track of the actual delegate count. Even though Romney will likely be projected the winner within 30 minutes, the delegate math will what's important.

Romney has solid leads in the 7 CD's in Northern IL/Around Chicago. These total about 19 Delegates

3 Congressional Districts covering North/Mid state are too close to call. These total about 9 Delegates.

Santorum's got the edge in the Downstate 8 Congressional Districts. These total about 26 Delegates.

Depending on how the 3 CD's swing, it is possible that Santorum could lose the popular vote, significantly, and yet still walk away with a split of the delegates.

Latest Projections:

Romney 45-46% Santorum 35-36% Gingrich 8-9% Paul 6-7%


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gingrich; illinois; primary; romney; santorum
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I've asked Newt supporters and have never got an answer. Can you name anything conservative Newt did between his time as a congressman and his time running for president?

I looks to me like he was the typical cocktail party circuit Republican...supported Cap-and-Trade with Pelosi, in on Fannie and Freddie, opposed the Ryan budget, worked against the tea party for Dede. Can you name anything conservative?

51 posted on 03/20/2012 5:56:11 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: dforest

Hugh victory for Romney, NOT!

Do any of these morons think Romney will take IL against Obama? When it’s O’s home? The primary vote is supposed to reflect what people will do in the general, this doesn’t.

Despite what they’ll try to cram down our throats tonight, it ain’t over til Oprah sings.


52 posted on 03/20/2012 5:56:11 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: dforest

Newt didn’t campaign here. Illinois is as close to a one-on-one race between Romney and Santorum as we’re likely to see. Geeze, Romney beat Santorum like a rented mule. But Romney can’t beat Obama. If we don’t get a brokered convention, we are so screwed.


53 posted on 03/20/2012 5:58:16 PM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: lonevoice
Tell that to JimRob. I'm sure he'd find your analysis interesting.

I don't see him rooting for Romney like Psyhcodork.

54 posted on 03/20/2012 5:58:19 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Wow, you change back and forth all the time. I am learning the hard way why you are psycho.

Nobody will ever accuse you of consistency.


55 posted on 03/20/2012 5:58:24 PM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest

I was about to say the same thing about, Santorum. Looks like that brilliant “Unemployment” speech was worth about 10 points to Romney.


56 posted on 03/20/2012 5:59:02 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: lonevoice

Sorry Newt was in Illinois the other day. You know, a candidate has to at least compete in most of the states if he wants a chance to win.

Anything short of that is non serious.


57 posted on 03/20/2012 6:01:46 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Lazlo in PA

The part about not fitting in the machine happended to me. The rubber guides were so tight that the machine could not move the ballot in to scan it. I had to move it around a bit to get it to move. Also, I noticed the digital counter on the scanner only said 49 when I ran mine through, finally after 3 to 4 tries (this was at 5 minutes to closing of the polling place!).


58 posted on 03/20/2012 6:04:40 PM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: jettester

My office is in Illinois (we live across the river in Iowa). Co-workers said that turnout was really low.


59 posted on 03/20/2012 6:07:14 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: jettester
Also, I noticed the digital counter on the scanner only said 49 when I ran mine through, finally after 3 to 4 tries (this was at 5 minutes to closing of the polling place!).

I was one of three at mine today. I can't believe no one gives a rat's behind our freedoms are going down the tubes.

60 posted on 03/20/2012 6:07:14 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: dforest

I believe he had something like 4 appearances in Illinois and he and the SuperPAC barely spent anything on advertising there. He’s focused most of his money and time on Louisiana while Santorum and Romney fought it out over Illinois. Paul didn’t make a stand in Illinois either.

Whether Gingrich is serious or not really isn’t the point. The point is that Gingrich and Paul cleared the playing field in Illinois and rendered it a one-on-one race. We’re seeing the results. Not good. Not good at all.


61 posted on 03/20/2012 6:09:10 PM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger; Jim Robinson
“I've asked Newt supporters and have never got an answer. Can you name anything conservative Newt did between his time as a congressman and his time running for president?
I looks to me like he was the typical cocktail party circuit Republican...supported Cap-and-Trade with Pelosi, in on Fannie and Freddie, opposed the Ryan budget, worked against the tea party for Dede. Can you name anything conservative?”

I pinged Jim Rob to answer your questions. You should put on body armour.

62 posted on 03/20/2012 6:10:17 PM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger; Jim Robinson
“I've asked Newt supporters and have never got an answer. Can you name anything conservative Newt did between his time as a congressman and his time running for president?
I looks to me like he was the typical cocktail party circuit Republican...supported Cap-and-Trade with Pelosi, in on Fannie and Freddie, opposed the Ryan budget, worked against the tea party for Dede. Can you name anything conservative?”

I pinged Jim Rob to answer your questions. You should put on body armour.

63 posted on 03/20/2012 6:11:08 PM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: lonevoice
Not good. Not good at all.

Illinois hasn't voted Republican since Bush '41's first term.

Santorum is up now in a bunch of counties. The theory that Dems want Santorum is out the window, that's for sure. Romney is and has been winning all the Obama counties. The Dems don't want Santorum to provide a contrast to Obama. They know Romney is another McCain.

64 posted on 03/20/2012 6:15:57 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: 2111USMC
My office is in Illinois (we live across the river in Iowa). Co-workers said that turnout was really low.

I think that's been the trend. Wherever Mittens does well, the voter turnout has been unusually low.

65 posted on 03/20/2012 6:17:18 PM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: Marcella

Another non-answer. Instead of being a tattle-tell, tell me something conservative he did in that time.


66 posted on 03/20/2012 6:18:07 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: lonevoice

Four appearances is a typical Newt primary campaign except when it is a state he feels the love in. So he did campaign there and is polling poorly as usual.

Paul is just Paul. He never is serious.


67 posted on 03/20/2012 6:25:21 PM PDT by dforest
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Santorum leading in 53 counties, Romney in 20. There are conservative counties in Illinois believe it or not. lol


68 posted on 03/20/2012 6:29:18 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: dforest

I’m really not understanding your point. Yes, Newt barely pinged the vote meter in Illinois. Nor did RuPaul. Romney swept Illinois by more than Santorum, Paul and Gingrich voters combined. I’m not happy about this, are you?


69 posted on 03/20/2012 6:30:52 PM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: parksstp

This is the second thread today where we had to remove another one of your phony links and fake sources. Please do not use fake links or any link shorteners.

If material is blocked here, that means you shouldn’t post the material. Demanding that people google to find the article doesn’t work.


70 posted on 03/20/2012 6:33:12 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Partisan Gunslinger; Jim Robinson

“Another non-answer. Instead of being a tattle-tell, tell me something conservative he did in that time.”

You’ve been a member since 2007, you are not a newbie, and you haven’t read all the information Jim Rob has put on this website, his website, about Newt Gingrich and you don’t know Jim has endorsed Newt???? All Newt supporters have put on tons of information about him.

You don’t deserve an answer - you need to learn to read - your brain will like it.


71 posted on 03/20/2012 6:33:50 PM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: Marcella

OK...so tell me what he’s done, I really want to know. Yes I know what he did as a congressman and as I’ve said he was politically loved by me then. I wanted him to run for president when he resigned his congressional seat. But now I don’t because he didn’t fight the fight in the last few years like Sarah, Santorum, DeMint, and others have. These last few years have been critical. I consider Cap-and-Trade as something to go to Revolution for. It’s classic Taxation without Representation. Why did he support the enemy on this?


72 posted on 03/20/2012 6:41:17 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

“resigned”..not the right word. He chose not to run again.


73 posted on 03/20/2012 6:43:35 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Marcella
Instead of being a whiny wuss, why don't you just answer his question.

It's not that hard. I can.

74 posted on 03/20/2012 6:45:20 PM PDT by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: Kenny
Do any of these morons think Romney will take IL against Obama?

Romney is winning by big margins in Chicago, Cook county, Cook suburbs, Lake county. I can't imagine him beating a democrat in any of them.

75 posted on 03/20/2012 6:45:46 PM PDT by MulberryDraw (I'm stocking up on toilet paper. It will hold its value better than the dollar.)
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To: Tribune7

“Instead of being a whiny wuss, why don’t you just answer his question. It’s not that hard. I can.”

Go right ahead.


76 posted on 03/20/2012 6:49:00 PM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
Conservative things that Newt did between leaving Congress and running for president included giving much needed support to remove activist judges in Iowa and launching TenMillionVoters.com

None of these guys is perfect but to bitch about either Newt or Santorum is stupidly counter-productive.

77 posted on 03/20/2012 6:49:31 PM PDT by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: Marcella

See post 77.


78 posted on 03/20/2012 6:50:34 PM PDT by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: lonevoice

Remove two counties in Chicago, Cook and Will that no Republican will ever win, and Santorum is leading the state count. He is actually doing better than predicted at this point. Even if all of Gingrich’s voters had voted for Santorum, it would have made no difference tonight.


79 posted on 03/20/2012 6:56:01 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Nothing here that excites me. My man is losing and will probably drop out,

Don't feel bad. I'm a 4 time loser... Cain, Perry, Gingrich, Santorum. It's enough to make me cry because there is no one left to support.

80 posted on 03/20/2012 6:56:01 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: Tribune7
Conservative things that Newt did between leaving Congress and running for president included giving much needed support to remove activist judges in Iowa and launching TenMillionVoters.com

OK, thanks. That's a worthy conservative cause. I should have included Bachman, she's taken major arrows for us the last few years.

None of these guys is perfect but to bitch about either Newt or Santorum is stupidly counter-productive.

I agree. If one were to check my posting history, I never said a word about Gingrich until a couple of days ago (actually I rarely post at all...once every few months) even though I've been pro-Santorum since Cain self-destructed. A couple of Gingrich supporters doing victory laps on a Romney win caused me to question their loyalty to our cause.

81 posted on 03/20/2012 6:59:47 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Ingtar

That does not seem to make sense from what I am seeing. What is your reasoning? Perhaps I have missed something.

A two man race between Santorum and Gingrich pits a social conservative against a fiscal conservative. The populous has been decrying for years "it's the economy, stupid" and "taxed enough already". These are good folks having this motivation. Add to their number the majority of Romney's lemmings, should he leave the race, as they will likely put themselves on the side of "money" rather than the side of "God". I love a God-fearing trustworthy man like Santorum for POTUS. But combining those who feel the economy is talking point number one and those who simply love money, makes an uphill battle for him all the way.


82 posted on 03/20/2012 7:01:59 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: stars & stripes forever
It's time to rebuild. That's how I see it.

If Romney wins the White House, at least he will be mildly conservative at first, which will give us time to start a whole new party to start weeding out the GOPE who control Washington.

It will take at least 4 years to get a party out of the planning stages. Such a movement will also strike fear into the rest of the RINOs now in office.

83 posted on 03/20/2012 7:02:19 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Does anyone know how Don Manzullo is doing? He was gerry-mandered out of my district. He is a solid Christian conservative.


84 posted on 03/20/2012 7:06:24 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

My county 100% reporting and we kicked Romney’s butt by more than double. I can be happy about one thing tonight at least.


85 posted on 03/20/2012 7:07:57 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: stars & stripes forever

Last I checked, Kinzinger was up around 60-40%. I’m surprised. Tea Party worked hard to get him elected the first time. But he has been a disappointment.....


86 posted on 03/20/2012 7:16:04 PM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: so_real

So why does Santorum beat Romney heads up among both sets of conservatives, except where the vote is too split. He then loses the liberal vote. Romney is winning states where the LDS or liberal vote (from cross-overs) overwhelm that.

I know what you mean by the lemmings. There is an 11% group in the polls that keeps shifting to whomever is ahead. Since Romney’s campaign and Newt’s PAC started savaging Santorum, that 11% seems to have finally settled on Romney. If Santorum could ever pull back ahead in the polls, he could go into the convention with the most delegates.


87 posted on 03/20/2012 7:18:05 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: All

All delegates in Illinois are unbound:

http://www.therightscoop.com/2012-illinois-gop-primary-thread/


88 posted on 03/20/2012 8:54:51 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
A couple of Gingrich supporters doing victory laps on a Romney win caused me to question their loyalty to our cause.

That bugs me as well. I kind of wonder if they are real Gingrich supporters.

89 posted on 03/20/2012 9:05:41 PM PDT by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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Final gap between Romney and Santorum: ~100,000 votes. Difference in Cook and Cook Suburbs: ~100,000 votes.


90 posted on 03/21/2012 1:12:33 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

If you think that the republican party is too liberal, please don’t start a new party. I hope that, instead, you’ll join the Constitution Party, a conservative party that was founded in 1999. I voted for five of their candidates, two for president, two for the U.S. Senate, and one for governor.


91 posted on 03/21/2012 7:52:03 AM PDT by PhilCollins
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