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CNN And Fox Project Romney Wins Illinois
CNN and Fox | March 20, 2012

Posted on 03/20/2012 5:51:54 PM PDT by Pinkbell

No link yet. I'm just seeing it on CNN. Reuters said Fox called it as well.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
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To: darrellmaurina; Thunder90

The “not on the ballot in areas of southern Illinois” is even easier to refute than the “not on the ballot in Wheaton” B.S., since Santorum’s best numbers were in southern Illinois. Here is a map of the county-by-county totals in Illinois. As you can see, Santorum won all but 2 counties south of Springfield in the lower half of the state:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/20/illinois-gop-primary-results/

In the two counties he lost in southern Illinois, St. Claire and Coles, Rick Santorum trailed Romney by only 1% in both of them. Here are the numbers reported in those counties. Pretty impressive feat...receiving thousands of votes when he “wasn’t on the ballot”, wouldn’t you say:


St. Claire county
Mitt Romney 42.5% 6597
Rick Santorum 41% 6,363

Coles county
Mitt Romney 39.1% 2,344
Rick Santorum 38.8% 2,328


Are there any more “not on the ballot” areas of Illinois where I need to list the number of votes Santorum received?


251 posted on 03/21/2012 9:05:40 AM PDT by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: Thunder90

LOL! That’s a scandal?? Give me a break Hussein IS a sandal. His past and present.


252 posted on 03/21/2012 9:09:14 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: BillyBoy
">> He wasn’t on the ballot in my district. << And which district would that be? I can show you the vote totals that Rick Santorum received in each of Illinois' 18 congressional districts and prove you're lying." Was talking to my neighbor about this yesterday, got annoyed and didn't vote cuz I was ticked off the lock was in for Romney.

Googled and found this from huffpo. "Santorum's campaign failed to submit any delegates in four of Illinois' 18 districts, according to Policymic. This cost the former Pennsylvania Senator 10 potential delegates"

Delegates Santorum/Gingrich Well I guess they did some switching....Its all too confusing for me.
253 posted on 03/21/2012 10:31:54 AM PDT by BJ1
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To: darrellmaurina; BillyBoy; Thunder90; napscoordinator; cripplecreek; AmericanInTokyo; Antoninus; ...

According to that map, in 18 out of 28 counties that Romney won, Newt and Rick’s combined vote totals would have beaten him. And a lot of those were close enough that he wouldn’t have needed all of Newt’s votes either. I’m not clear how the counties relate to districts though. Are vote totals separated out by the districts available anywhere? It would be interesting to see how many delegates we lost due to the vote splitting.


254 posted on 03/21/2012 10:42:18 AM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: xzins; mojitojoe
There will be other candidates

Ross Perot maybe?

255 posted on 03/21/2012 11:59:40 AM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: Lexinom

Then, if Obama is elected, you will get just what you deserve. Unfortunately, the rest of us will get what YOU deserve, as well.


256 posted on 03/21/2012 12:43:07 PM PDT by Clara Lou (ABO! Go Newt!)
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To: Pinkbell

Not me, I think your answer was for psycho-freep, that’s where that quote came from.

I haven’t bashed anyone. I’m for Rick so that didn’t happen.


257 posted on 03/21/2012 12:44:29 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Clara Lou
Here's the thing, CL: We're not getting what we deserve. We've sinned against a holy God and deserve eternal perdition. Every breath we take we increase our debt.

Corporately as a nation, we have mocked God to His face. By nominating someone who has bought his way to power and who has no strong principles, we demonstrated our lack of concern for our desperate position and condition.

2 Chronicles 7:14 cannot come to pass until we experience true hardship, famine, poverty. Do I want those things? No! I want to do what is right rather than what is expedient.

258 posted on 03/21/2012 1:19:53 PM PDT by Lexinom (Mitt < 1,144)
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To: Lexinom

You’re a nut. Expect no further communication from me.


259 posted on 03/21/2012 1:48:52 PM PDT by Clara Lou (ABO! Go Newt!)
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To: Clara Lou

I wear your response as a badge of honor, ma’am.


260 posted on 03/21/2012 2:27:15 PM PDT by Lexinom (Mitt < 1,144)
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To: mojitojoe

I don’t vote for R’s or D’s. I vote for C’s.

Romney is a liberal.

In fact, I will pick someone and campaign for them in hopes of being part of a viable C party.


261 posted on 03/21/2012 3:45:00 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: SouthTexas

Read your tagline.

I don’t compromise my principles. I’m a Christian Conservative. Romney is a liberal.


262 posted on 03/21/2012 3:47:56 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: Kenny

It was, but I also pinged you because his post was in response to yours. I know you’re a Santorum supporter.


263 posted on 03/21/2012 4:04:54 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Rick Santorum For President (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N89LGhm-Ztc))
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To: StAnDeliver

Oops, I didn’t see you had included NV there. The GOP is not carrying NV. Assuming Romney would be the nominee, he would have to get upwards of 300,000 votes in Clark and over 100,000 in Washoe, while Obama would have to get significantly less votes than he got (50,000) in 2008. The Republican Party is heavily fractured in NV and all the different factions will have to unite in full force as they did in 2004 if the GOP is to take NV. At this time, I don’t see that happening. Instead of NV, Romney is playing for NH, which is more suited to him.


264 posted on 03/21/2012 4:25:29 PM PDT by parksstp (I pick RIck! (If he's good enough for Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh, he's good enough for me))
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To: xzins

None of our options can walk on water, but any of them is better than what we have now.


265 posted on 03/21/2012 9:29:08 PM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: SouthTexas

Romney is not better than Obama. As you say, you cannot bargain with the devil.

Whether you take Screwtape or Apollyon, you still are on the devil’s side.


266 posted on 03/21/2012 11:32:46 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: xzins

I don’t buy into that, you can choose to if you wish.

Romney takes a lot of flack and much of it deserved but one thing that is continually ignored, his obamacare was for one state, not the country. I could care less what they do in Taxachusettes as long as they keep it up there. The ‘one’ did it for the whole country.

As far as my tagline, where were our great leaders when the debt ceiling had to be jacked again? Where will they be the next time it comes up? Off playing golf with the ‘one’?

I am thoroughly aware that having to choose the lesser of two evils still results in evil but it will give us more of an opportunity for correction.

I will decide how to vote later and odds are, it will be Romney. Not because I favor his brand of conservatism, because it’s not, but because he’s better than Obama.

When I go change the flags on my father’s and grandfather’s graves, I will NOT have to apologize for pissing off the right to vote that they gave their lives to protect.

You are free however, to do as you wish. Now I will go back to trying to hold my tongue on the bitch and moan/whine and cry, I.E. election threads as much as possible.


267 posted on 03/22/2012 6:27:23 AM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: SouthTexas
his obamacare was for one state....his brand of conservatism, because it's not...

I'll keep working on you Tex. I can tell from those words above that you see yourself stuck between a rock and a hard place.

You don't believe Romney's a conservative any more than I do.

And you don't believe in choosing the lesser of two evils.

Pray about it, brother. There has to be a better way, and I believe you believe that.

268 posted on 03/22/2012 6:39:27 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: SouthTexas

There is no such thing as a lesser of two evils. Evil is evil period.

I know it is hard for people to believe that many of us who are conservative have a big problem with Rick Santorum. And because it is unthinkable not to support him, we must be misrepreseting ourselves. Nonsense. Rick is a poor candidate, plan and simple. He was built up because people needed someone to believe in.

I support Newt, and that is that. I will not vote for Mr. Romney. To think somehow we will be better off with less evil is something that I can not comprehend. And for those who do not think our moral decay can get worse...then vote for Mitt Romney and see.


269 posted on 03/22/2012 6:53:01 AM PDT by dt57 (illerate, noobie....)
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To: xzins; dt57

LOL, part of the problem is I am just as hard headed as the rest of you. :)

Why, in a time when we could have run a ham sandwich to beat Obama, we end up with the dregs is beyond me.


270 posted on 03/22/2012 7:22:45 AM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: SouthTexas
Why, in a time when we could have run a ham sandwich to beat Obama, we end up with the dregs is beyond me.

If you run 7 money-poor conservatives and one well-heeled liberal pretending to be a conservative, then the 7 conservatives are going to knock each other out and leave us with the fake.

In short, the GOP-E counts on us dividing and conquering ourselves. And then we do it. It's maddening.

271 posted on 03/22/2012 7:44:26 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: xzins

Still don’t think we were offered a decent candidate.

Would take Palin in a heartbeat, but too many are convinced she is a disruptive force. So am I, I suppose. LOL


272 posted on 03/22/2012 8:01:41 AM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: SouthTexas

I like Palin, but I’ve no doubt the romney pac would have done the same to her.


273 posted on 03/22/2012 8:04:46 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: xzins

I think the other candidates did as much damage to themselves as what was inflicted by Romney or the DNC.


274 posted on 03/22/2012 8:49:09 AM PDT by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: muawiyah
The RNC should have assisted the candidates in getting through all state qualification standards. The Democrats do that. Priebus has let us all down. We need him out of there ~ NOW!

No, conservatives let us down. There were too many competing candidates that did not distinguish themselves and provide a clear alternative to Mitt Romney. Rick Perry was a good man and he was vilified on this forum. Every Republican candidate has been vilified in this forum. I am not a RINO. I am a patriot. I will support the Republican nominee against the disaster of a second Obama term.

275 posted on 03/22/2012 7:39:44 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: af_vet_1981

Politics should be fun AND interesting. A ballot with no one on there but Ron Paul and Mitt Romney IS A CRIME!


276 posted on 03/22/2012 7:53:31 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: parksstp
"Oops, I didn’t see you had included NV there. The GOP is not carrying NV. Assuming Romney would be the nominee, he would have to get upwards of 300,000 votes in Clark and over 100,000 in Washoe, while Obama would have to get significantly less votes than he got (50,000) in 2008. The Republican Party is heavily fractured in NV and all the different factions will have to unite in full force as they did in 2004 if the GOP is to take NV. At this time, I don’t see that happening. Instead of NV, Romney is playing for NH, which is more suited to him."

Clark like this:
John Kerry John Edwards Democratic 281,767 51.66%
George W. Bush Richard Cheney Republican 255,337 46.82%

Washoe like this:
George W. Bush Richard Cheney Republican 81,545 51.26%
John Kerry John Edwards Democratic 74,841 47.05%

Equals a result like this:
George W. Bush Richard Cheney Republican 418,690 50.47% 5
John Kerry John Edwards Democratic 397,190 47.88% 0

It's Obama's people that said they are playing off the Kerry map, not me.

Angle ran a terrible race in Oct. 2010 and only lost by 41,000, and the outliers (including a "Tea Party" candidate) who won't be on a Nov. 2012 ballot pulled 37,000. Harry can forcibly bus the kitchen help to the polls for himself, but you should read how much Reid has completely soured on Bobo (not the least reason of which is almost assuredly costing Pinky the Majority Leader post this November).

277 posted on 03/23/2012 5:57:27 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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