Skip to comments.Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin(FL)
Posted on 03/22/2012 4:55:30 AM PDT by marktwain
Last weekend in the city of Chicago alone, gangbangers slaughtered ten people and wounded another forty. The youngest fatality is only six years old. The youngest person wounded is only one-year-old. Many of the victim were pedestrians sprayed with bullets in drive by shootings. The national news has said nothing about this.
So why does one shooting in Florida warrant weeks of national news? Why has there been thousands of articles a day, for the last four days, about one single shooting?
Almost all of the news items about George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin contains a combination of false statements, opinions presented as facts, transparent distortions, and a complete absence of some of the most relevant details. Almost all news items are written soley from the point of view of the grieving family. The media also fills their articles with outdated baby-faced pictures of Trayvon. Very few include that he was a towering 6'2 football player. Is the media really reporting the news, or is this classic agitation/propaganda to advance a political agenda.
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Not self appointed, elected watch captain by the neighborhood watch.
I shall call the Reverend Al Sharpton immediately and he will be in Tulsa on the next plane. Do not worry. Eric Holder, Al Sharpton, and President Barack Hussein Obama will fight hate crimes no matter who is the perpetrator.
Please call me as soon as the Reverend Al and the other two gentlemen arrive in your community. Perhaps these outstanding public servants were busy comforting those who suffered tragic loss in the recent spate of Tornados?
Yes. That's it. They were busy.
Yep - I hit the “abuse” button as soon as I saw it, needed to alert AdminMod that it could cause a lot of trouble for FR. I see that it’s been deleted, as well it shouldl be.
“the OTHER guy was recorded on a 911 call to use racial slurs “
Go look again.
No where in the call (not a 911 call, but a non-emergency number,which is what you are supposed to use when reporting suspicious activity) is it audible that Zimmerman says anyhting (confronts) Martin. Also, no evidence that he was brandishing his weapon. Finally, there are no statutes that state someone with a legal CWP can not be a patrolling member of a neighborhood watch, that would be unconstitutional. But then, as others have stated, getting rid of concealed carry is more than likely the ultimate agenda of the MSM et al.
Ok. So wait till the person has his hands on you. Smart advice.
Go look again? How in the hell can you “look” at a recording?
I heard the 911 tapes that were released. And there were no racial slurs used by Zimmerman. If you have links to the recording that shows a slur being used then please provide a link.
“If you do then you open yourself up to prosecution. “
“It is just too darn easy to get in a fight and then blow someone away.”
Name the times that happened. This is all urban legend passed on from one ignorant person to another. That is what liberals claim will happen with concealed carry: People will just get into traffic accidents and bar brawls and shoot each other. That hasn’t happened.
Yes the Jungle drums are going to put a lot of pressure on the DA to do something. It just probably won’t go anywhere. I can’t see a jury of 12 convicting a guy who was on the ground yelling for help of murder. The family will go after him civilly.
We don’t know the facts- only the stories the lib rats have put out.
I still say there a reason Zimmerman was not arrested.
“the OTHER guy was recorded on a 911 call to use racial slurs “
Don’t call him a liar.
He’s just confused by the MSM propaganda.
And the propaganda put out by many of the members here
He was a minor, so who knows? NBC did manage to find out that Zimmerman had a domestic in his past.
>>”We want justice so bad we are willing to ignore the law.”
>There is a railroad being built real fast for Zimmerman.
But the sentiment in the first sentence COULD actually be a good [righteous] one, consider the numerous “laws” which exist only to 1) entrap, and b) deprive of rights. (Prime example being the “[ex-]felons can’t have guns” ‘law’.)
I can’t quite make out what he says...f**king ???? and I’m not even certain it is directed at or about the kid/suspect.
It could be *f’ing *whatever that was hindering his following the guy. It just isn’t clear to me. If I had heels on I might say f’ing shoes!
I would find it odd that some kid with hand in his pants walking around looking in places while it is RAINING. Then the kid starts running. I would have reported that myself.
Here is the link and it is at the 2:21
I don’t know what happened here but I do know it won’t be solved on the internet or in the media. It is for a court of law to decide.
You are exactly correct. I think a lot of this is to get us used to the rule of the mob, as stirred up by the MSM, instead of the rule of law.
“And the propaganda put out by many of the members here”
Sad to say.
You are correct, of course.
What I was trying to show, was that if Trayvon Martin was afraid of George Zimmerman, he could have avoided him by simply going inside. Both of them had every right to be where they were. Neither was obligated to go anywhere.
The question, which the Martin partisans are trying to define as irrelevant, is: Who started the physical altercation, or Who attacked who?
Cool. Well that tells me all I need to know. Thanks.
“George Zimmerman actually caught one thief and aided in the apprehension of other criminals.”
Trayvon Martin was not a thief and was not a criminal. He wasn’t even trespassing. Zimmerman forced this situation. If some fat loser was chasing my son at night in the rain I would want him to “stand his ground” if necessary and defend himself. If Trayvon was sucessfully defending himself that does not excuse Zimmerman shooting him. Zimmerman does not have the stand your ground defense in this stituation.
Again, there is no evidence that he was being chased. Watched,yes, chased no. He isn’t out of breath in the dispatcher tape.
Gee, I don't know.
Make a wisecrack comment get one back.
“There was an investigation conducted, the DAs office opined that it was a justifiable shooting of self-defense.”
Anyone know the name and politics of this DA? It’s possible that he’s a liberal that blamed the Stand Your Ground Law for his inaction on purpose, to create an issue and get the law changed.
Said under his breath right before the point where the dispatcher asks if Zimmerman is following, he says "Yes", and the dispatcher replies, "OK, we don't need you to do that."
What do you think he said? How many times will the jury replay it?
I agree with all . Zimmerman says on the tape the guy is up to no good, he might be on drugs, he is criminally motivated by looking at houses, he is reaching for a weapon in his waistband. This was a highly dangerous person to follow and ask questions to and Zimmerman by his own choice wants a piece of this action. No sane person would follow a person on drugs, who he thinks has a weapon unless he wants something bad to happen.
“I said ‘f-——g Kohn’ because I had just thought of a column by the Washington Post writer that I disagreed with”
I don’t know what he said there. It was kinda garbled don’t you think. I guess some folks will hear what they want to hear.
What about the screaming? Folks are making a huge deal about the screams for help. Only problem is, the screams aren’t from Martin. Or rather, what does it mean if it turns out to be Zimmerman? Mom said it was the kid. I saw the inverview on TV.
If it was Zimmerman (and I believe it was) then what does that lead you to believe?
Also, the comments on youtube are quite revealing. Most of the commenters apparently don’t know that Zimmerman was not white. Reckon why that is?
And your “wisecrack” comment is “whine”? And how is wondering when it’s ok to fight back a wise crack comment?
Or unless he is willing to put himself in harms way to prevent harm to others who have put their confidence in him as Neighborhood Watch.
Get the herd moving fast enough in the right direction and you can use them to stampede your enemies...
If you pick a fight with somebody and then shoot him when you find yourself unexpectedly losing, you don't get to claim self-defense. Especially if the other guy is armed with a bag of Skittles.
Of course, we still don't know exactly what happened. E.g., maybe Zimmerman just questioned Martin, and Martin flew off the handle and jumped him. Then the case for self-defense would be much stronger. But if Zimmerman laid a hand first, he's toast.
The cops were on their way and they would be there in minutes. That’s a policeman’s job. He has no authority. They wanted him to meet them at the gate so they can check things out with a marked policeman. There was no immediate crime or crisis. only in Zimmerman’s warped imagination.
Very good. You see the issues clearly.
George Zimmerman is under a legal impediment in this trial by media. He has likely been warned not to make any public statements, because he is still under investigation.
Add to that the obvious MSM delight in pushing the race card, and you have one side getting 99 percent of the attention.
Dear goodness really? “hide under your covers” Wisecrak... Just answer the question.
Amazing what facts didn’t make it to the al sharpton club of “blame it on whitey”.
Of course the other side is 100% dead.
A witness stated that Zimmerman was on his way back to his truck when Trayvon jumped him.
I'd say that is really damn "immediate".