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Zimmerman was on the ground being punched when he shot Trayvon Martin(FL)
Charleston Conservative Examiner ^ | 21 March, 2012 | Kyle Rogers

Posted on 03/22/2012 4:55:30 AM PDT by marktwain

Last weekend in the city of Chicago alone, gangbangers slaughtered ten people and wounded another forty. The youngest fatality is only six years old. The youngest person wounded is only one-year-old. Many of the victim were pedestrians sprayed with bullets in drive by shootings. The national news has said nothing about this.

So why does one shooting in Florida warrant weeks of national news? Why has there been thousands of articles a day, for the last four days, about one single shooting?

Almost all of the news items about George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin contains a combination of false statements, opinions presented as facts, transparent distortions, and a complete absence of some of the most relevant details. Almost all news items are written soley from the point of view of the grieving family. The media also fills their articles with outdated baby-faced pictures of Trayvon. Very few include that he was a towering 6'2” football player. Is the media really reporting the news, or is this classic agitation/propaganda to advance a political agenda.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; fl; georgezimmerman; lies; politicalcorrectness; propaganda; shooting; trayvonmartin
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To: djf
And then you try to justify that it is at least sometimes about killing??

No, I didn't TRY, I DID justify it's about killing, because Neighborhood Watch is about criminals, and they like to kill people. That's documented, by the way. Would you like to see some stats about criminality and murder?

Please try to pay attention.

BTW, I never said ONE, not ONE single racial references in my post. It is YOU who raised the racial references. (Emphasis added.)

Really? Where did I do that? I didn't.

But the race-pimp NGO's sure as hell did. We would not have heard about this neighborhood shooting otherwise.

In case you hadn't noticed, this was a black-on-white crime against the mestizo guy, whom the decedent was beating bloody before the accused shot him in self-defense.

301 posted on 03/23/2012 7:46:15 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: justice14
this was a terrible testosterone driven tragedy and neither neither man is fault less....

it still doesn't mean Z is charged with anything.....

302 posted on 03/23/2012 7:46:42 AM PDT by cherry
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To: lentulusgracchus

If it’s “all about surveillance”, that means it’s about taking notes and watching, not about killing.

And you were the one who brought up the Sharpton references, then repeated that mode with the “mestizo” reference.

Put down the bottle, dude.

No way is it self defense if you approach someone on the sidewalk, start making demands, then suffer the consequences.


303 posted on 03/23/2012 7:57:53 AM PDT by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: cherry
it still doesn't mean Z is charged with anything.....

I still haven't seen a full explanation of what Trayvon Martin was doing out and about late at night.

One statement said he was from Miami. Another said he has a juvy history and was on suspension at the time of the incident. Another said he lived in the subdivision. His mother said he went to the store because he was bored. Bored? What does that mean?

The Sanford city manager in his statement referred to an "arrest record" for Zimmermann. Anyone ever taken to city jail for a traffic stop has that. The statement does not clarify what that "arrest record" entailed, or whether it was material. If a police officer runs a guy to jail for having a gun despite being a CCW licensee, that is still an "arrest".

304 posted on 03/23/2012 8:09:26 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: editor-surveyor

Why am I not surprised? Thanks for sharing.


305 posted on 03/23/2012 8:11:45 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: Paratrooper

But, but, my local paper is running a picture of the ‘teen’ and he looks like he’s ten years old in the picture.

Is it possible my local paper is unaware that the ‘teens’ picture (the real one - of how he looks today) is on the internet? The only folks being ‘fooled’ are the elderly who don’t use computers. The rest of the people have started trusting the press LESS than before... Less than before - trust running on par with used car salesmen...

The truth will set you free.... Here’s the truth about elite journalist working for one side - - truth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBFOmUXR080


306 posted on 03/23/2012 8:18:15 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: djf
No way is it self defense if you approach someone on the sidewalk, start making demands, then suffer the consequences.

The civil patrol driver was on his way back to his truck when he was jumped. Is "suffer the consequences" codespeak for "he deserved it because he's white", because anyone without a badge who asks a young black man a pointed question deserves an ass-beating for temerity?

You've got some funny ideas about amour-propre.

And you were the one who brought up the Sharpton references, then repeated that mode with the “mestizo” reference.

A Sharpton reference references Sharpton, without whom we wouldn't even be talking about this story.

Come out of your hidey-hole and yell "racist" -- that's the liberal mode d'emploi when talking about this stuff -- you know you're doing it already. That's the second time you've accused me of racism in lieu of argument, and you are full of b.s. for one thing, and you're playing games, specifically argumentum ad hominem, which Transactional Analysis calls "Blemish", for another.

Weaselly references and sneaky accusations won't get you anywhere on this board, troll.

307 posted on 03/23/2012 8:24:41 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: dfwgator

That is why we must defeat the Democrats (other wise known as LIEberal/Socialist/Marxist/Fascists Bastards) in November!

There is a profoundly disturbing sentiment that shows up almost every day on FReeRepublic. That is: “If Romney (or Santorum or Gingrich or Paul — pick any one) is the Republican nominee, I’m going to either vote Third Party or not vote at all.”

FReepers, I cannot tell you how wrong-headed this train of thought is — our objective is to defeat the LIEberals in November, and the only way to do that is to vote against them!

And, for God’s sake, don’t vote Third Party! Remember Ross Perot? Thanks to him, and the stupidity of about 19% of the electorate, we got 8 years of Slick and Hitlery.

We sureasHell don’t need 8 years of Obongo Bozo!


309 posted on 03/23/2012 11:28:46 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman

If Bush didn’t reneg on ‘Read My Lips’ there would have been no Perot.


310 posted on 03/23/2012 11:33:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: marktwain

Bookmarked!


311 posted on 03/23/2012 11:37:18 AM PDT by Ballygrl
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To: dfwgator

I agree that that comment caused a lot of people to not vote for him, but the lesson there for all of us, despite the “Lesser of two evils” canard, is that until and unless a truly viable, competitive Third Party comes along, we will have to deal with Democrats and Republicans.

In that context, voting against the Democrat is the best we can do, given that we have not been able to get a Real Conservative through the nominating process in recent election cycles.


312 posted on 03/23/2012 11:44:17 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: lentulusgracchus

You still won’t admit that YOU were the one that put the racial spin on this, not me.

Noodle on, dude...


313 posted on 03/23/2012 1:03:11 PM PDT by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: Phantom Phixer

I knew that - I was just cc:ing you since he had made the “murder” comment I was responding to, to you.

I wish FR had an explicit cc: function. In a case like this, you should assume that, if you see what I mean.


314 posted on 03/23/2012 1:58:19 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: djf
You still won’t admit that YOU were the one that put the racial spin on this, not me.

I absolutely did not, liar. Wanna cop an attitude and talk about noodling? Go noodle yourself!

315 posted on 03/23/2012 3:52:12 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Taxman
In that context, voting against the Democrat is the best we can do.....

Until conservatives stop knuckling under to this con, "the best we can do" is the best we're gonna get from the guys with the money and the control of the GOP.

316 posted on 03/23/2012 3:55:02 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: GOPJ
His FB page.....http://www.facebook.com/search/results.php?q=trayvon%20slimm%20martin&init=quick&tas=0.5979588698339031&__adt=2#!/profile.php?id=1353307542.

Nothing thug or nefarious. just a teenager.

317 posted on 03/23/2012 3:57:28 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911

So if his FB page doesn’t say “yo ima kill some fools”, then this says something about culpability in this case?


318 posted on 03/23/2012 4:01:57 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: lentulusgracchus

All of my adult life, I have longed for a Presidential face-off between a LIEberal and a Real Conservative.

I am almost 71 years old, and I doubt I’ll ever get my wish fulfilled.

HST, all we can do is press forward and hope that Obongo Bozo is unceremoniously booted out of the White House in November!

And then go to work on his successor to force government to recognize and abide by the US Constitution.

Don’t know what else we can do — but it is for damn sure that if we sit this one out, Obongo Bozo and his LIEberal hangers-on will take America down!

Now REALLY is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country!


319 posted on 03/23/2012 4:05:09 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: lentulusgracchus

PS I’d like to think that We the People, presuming we prevail in November, will be encouraged enough and empowered enough to force the out of control government geni back into the Constitutional bottle?


320 posted on 03/23/2012 4:07:05 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: wtc911; 101stAirborneVet
Nothing thug or nefarious. just a teenager.

.....who was on top of a guy beating the rat p*ss out of him, when the guy shot him in self-defense.

Zimmermann was all bloody, multiple eyewitnesses said. Since that had to have happened before the gun went off, because Martin couldn't have done it after the gun went off ..... your sidewinding characterization of the attacker as a Floridian Oliver Twist ain't working.

Self-defense, open and shut. This is all about a media lynching, a bonfire of the vanities to feed Obama's turnout in the fall, by allowing him to posture as Race Pharaoh and a River to My People and all that tribal-political crap the Dims love.

They're trying to intimidate GOP pols into giving this guy up to the lynch-mob, and this afternoon on AM radio, I heard Santorum giving him up, characterizing the encounter as murder. He gave up the guy's defense on national radio.

321 posted on 03/23/2012 4:11:42 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Revolting cat!

Wow. “Warning shot”?

You are just making stuff up now. You don’t fire “warning shots”. That’s insane.


322 posted on 03/23/2012 4:14:29 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: Taxman
I sure hope so, but based on the auguries we've seen on this board in the last six months, and the conduct of the "leadership" in Congress, I'm not joining the Optimists' Club any time soon.
323 posted on 03/23/2012 4:15:25 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

I’m not either, but it is for damnsure that I am going to buttonhole every person I talk to about the importance of voting against Obongo Bozo and the LIEberals!

I only have a certain amount of time, talent and treasure.

I’ll do what I can with what I have!


324 posted on 03/23/2012 5:00:29 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: JayAr36
What??? Why is everything always about race? Can't people just look at the facts? Ok, since you want to play the race game. I am assuming that you are a white male. Suppose you are visiting a friend in a black neighborhood and some black guy comes up to you and starts asking you why you are there. How many proofs of ID are you going to show him? Or are you going to tell him to eff off?
325 posted on 03/23/2012 6:04:21 PM PDT by turn_to
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To: 101stAirborneVet
So if his FB page doesn’t say “yo ima kill some fools”, then this says something about culpability in this case?

________________________________

No, genius...it just shows those freepers who have actually posted pictures of other people that fit their idea of what they wanted him to be while claiming they were pictures of Martin to be the racist asshats they are...you want to play in their sandbox go right ahead. Just don't kid yourself about who your playmates are.

326 posted on 03/23/2012 6:07:50 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911
No, genius...it just shows those freepers who have actually posted pictures of other people that fit their idea of what they wanted him to be while claiming they were pictures of Martin to be the racist asshats they are...you want to play in their sandbox go right ahead. Just don't kid yourself about who your playmates are.

I'm not playing in anybody's "sandbox". My point is it doesn't matter if someone's Facebook is devoid of "sinister images or content", and that such a situation doesn't help us determine anything. Genius.

327 posted on 03/23/2012 6:57:03 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks marktwain.
Last weekend in the city of Chicago alone, gangbangers slaughtered ten people and wounded another forty. The youngest fatality is only six years old. The youngest person wounded is only one-year-old. Many of the victim were pedestrians sprayed with bullets in drive by shootings. The national news has said nothing about this... Almost all of the news items about George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin contains a combination of false statements, opinions presented as facts, transparent distortions, and a complete absence of some of the most relevant details... with outdated baby-faced pictures of Trayvon... a towering 6'2" football player.

328 posted on 03/23/2012 8:23:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him)
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To: wtc911

Thanks for checking - thanks for sharing.


329 posted on 03/23/2012 8:48:05 PM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: turn_to

Facts:
Zimmerman head wound in the back of his head. Bloodied face. Grass stains over the back of his shirt. Indicates he was on his back when beaten
Zimmerman yelling for help as confirmed by the kids father.
Now we need to0 know if the gunshot was up close. Was it in front? Either confirmed would indicate that the fight was as told to the police.
Now Race. It doesn’t have to be about race until it happens to be a black guy, but if he wants to wear his hoodie up, pants down low acting like a hoodlum then the first impression is that it is a HOODLUM! Questioning a person appearing to be a hood is not out of the question. Just ask the 90 year old man who just lost his wife of 65 yeare to one of these pieces of human debris who just happens to be a YOUNG BLACK BOY!


330 posted on 03/24/2012 7:13:00 AM PDT by JayAr36
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To: CodeToad; saleman

Last I checked “F-ing Coon” Was considered to be a racial slur against people of color. That is either wrong or not but either way it is not a lie. So take your personal attacks elsewhere.


331 posted on 03/28/2012 6:12:28 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

There are claims of that but no proof. People claim they can hear him say that, some say he said “goons”. Your prejudice is speaking much louder than your words.


332 posted on 03/28/2012 8:12:05 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: CodeToad
Your prejudice is speaking much louder than your words.

Really? What is it saying? Because I don't detect any. Who exactly am I imply prejudice toward? You are awfully free and easy with the personal insults.
333 posted on 03/29/2012 1:11:05 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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