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Inside the Ring: Beijing coup rumors. War in the city?
Washingtion times ^ | 3-22-2012 | edcoil

Posted on 03/22/2012 9:34:01 AM PDT by edcoil

U.S. intelligence agencies monitoring China’s Internet say that from March 14 to Wednesday bloggers circulated alarming reports of tanks entering Beijing and shots being fired in the city as part of what is said to have been a high-level political battle among party leaders - and even a possible military coup.

The Internet discussions included photos posted online of tanks and other military vehicles moving around Beijing.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: beijingcoup; china; chinacoup; communism; coup
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First I have heard of this.
1 posted on 03/22/2012 9:34:06 AM PDT by edcoil
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To: edcoil

At some point the military has to act out of self-preservation, I suppose...


2 posted on 03/22/2012 9:37:40 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1157 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: edcoil

What’s a Ling?


3 posted on 03/22/2012 9:38:06 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Two halflings joined together?


4 posted on 03/22/2012 9:39:14 AM PDT by Ingtar
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To: edcoil
My, My, My Communism breads insurrection and instability, not even god like China is immune to the laws of human nature.

Here's to hoping the Communists in China get what they deserve and the Chinese people get a better future.

5 posted on 03/22/2012 9:39:42 AM PDT by KC_Lion (I will NEVER vote for Romney, the GOP will go the way of the Whigs if they nominate him)
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To: edcoil

Hard to keep quiet a story about tanks running around in Beijing.


6 posted on 03/22/2012 9:40:24 AM PDT by AU72
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To: edcoil

I haven’t heard anything about this, but I think about a week ago, word came out that a senior Party leader, who was in line to become President, had been unexpectedly purged. The reports I heard made it seem quiet and business-like.


7 posted on 03/22/2012 9:40:52 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("And the public gets what the public wants" -- The Jam)
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To: MrB

The back half of a ding-a-ling?


8 posted on 03/22/2012 9:41:03 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: edcoil

It’s bad news when you run a police state and the police decide to turn on you


9 posted on 03/22/2012 9:41:03 AM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: edcoil

It’s bad news when you run a police state and the police decide to turn on you


10 posted on 03/22/2012 9:41:16 AM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Mousy Tongue’s philosophy still holds sway there.


11 posted on 03/22/2012 9:43:02 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: edcoil

At first, they thought the Tiananmen Square business was a civil war between Chinese Army units.


12 posted on 03/22/2012 9:44:56 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: edcoil

” First I have heard of this. “

Being picked up by a few other ‘news’ outlets...

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46818077

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/china-news/coup-in-beijing-says-chinese-internet-rumor-mill-207993.html

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/21/us-intel-picks-up-on-beijing-coup-rumors/

http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/world-news/beijingedge-amid-coup-rumours_683851.html

If this goes beyond mere rumor, it could be a game-changer, globally....

Watching (nervously...)


13 posted on 03/22/2012 9:45:01 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: edcoil
More communism or less communism?

14 posted on 03/22/2012 9:49:43 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: edcoil

Looks like someone’s screwing with someones ricebowl.


15 posted on 03/22/2012 9:55:46 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: edcoil
Quick President Obama, apologize!
16 posted on 03/22/2012 10:04:59 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: null and void
At some point the military has to act out of self-preservation, I suppose...

This is true in ALL countries!

17 posted on 03/22/2012 10:05:08 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Uncle Ike
BBC is playing it down as "just a rumor".

UK Daily Mail thinks it might be true.

Watch for the markets to get agitated. Unrest in China means a lot of US companies might not get their Chinese-made parts or products.

18 posted on 03/22/2012 10:06:45 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Don Corleone

Doesn’t seem to be so here...


19 posted on 03/22/2012 10:07:19 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1157 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: PapaBear3625

With so many foreign nationals in Beijing it would be quite difficult to keep a lid on this, this isn’t Pyongyang.


20 posted on 03/22/2012 10:09:17 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Leaning Right; All

Looks a coup in Mali today

http://www.mail.com/news/world/1149908-soldiers-loot-mali-presidency-ousting-leader.html#.23140-stage-hero1-2


21 posted on 03/22/2012 10:09:34 AM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Echoes of the attempted Coup in the Soviet Union in 1991?


22 posted on 03/22/2012 10:11:41 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: edcoil

I spent some time in China a couple of years ago. My last night there I was out to dinner with two mid-level state department folk; one was going to be leaving soon as well. Discussing this the other said, “I wish it was me - this place is going to go.” The other agreed and explained the problem: As the Chinese economy has grown, virtually all the wealth is going to the major cities and creating a class of oligarchs. Their expectation is that the Army will do what they are told and keep the peace. The problem is that the military rank and file are farm boys whose parents are patriots who feel that they are being excluded from the new prosperity and in effect being cheated for toeing the line. Blood being thicker than water, when the SHTF the Army will side with the country folk.


23 posted on 03/22/2012 10:14:24 AM PDT by stormer
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To: KC_Lion

But,but, where will we get our walmart, target, mall junk from?


24 posted on 03/22/2012 10:15:59 AM PDT by 9422WMR (Life is not fair, just deal with it.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Bo Xilai Purged in China’s Communist Party Shakeup

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2861387/posts


25 posted on 03/22/2012 10:16:36 AM PDT by khelus
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To: edcoil

Let’s be cautious. I did see this a couple days ago and found somewhere it was being poo-pooed. Something about visitors from another country requiring protection. Don’t have my resources with me.


26 posted on 03/22/2012 10:18:11 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: edcoil

I’ve long had this fantasy of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi fighting it out with tanks...


27 posted on 03/22/2012 10:20:26 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Ingtar

28 posted on 03/22/2012 10:20:45 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: khelus
Thanks. The timing lines up -- March 14/15 for both the purge and the rumors of army activity starting up.

Very worrisome, but who knows what the truth is?

29 posted on 03/22/2012 10:22:25 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("And the public gets what the public wants" -- The Jam)
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To: edcoil

Don’t expect anything good to come of this. A lot of hardcore hawks in the Chinese military and they won’t be rooting for more freedom for their people.


30 posted on 03/22/2012 10:23:16 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: ClearCase_guy

Not a word - not a breath on the MSM. Nothing.

Talk about empty suits.


31 posted on 03/22/2012 10:24:11 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: RinaseaofDs
It will be difficult for the MSM to ignore when the iPad supply dries up...
32 posted on 03/22/2012 10:35:20 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1157 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: edcoil

Wow.


33 posted on 03/22/2012 10:36:02 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Ingtar
What’s a Ling?

Two halflings joined together?

Coffee enters mouth, exits nose.

34 posted on 03/22/2012 10:37:32 AM PDT by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: Ingtar
What's a Ling?

Two halflings joined together?


You hit that one out of the park. Well done.
35 posted on 03/22/2012 10:39:18 AM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: MrB

What’s a Ling?

In China, their telephones go ling, ling. Then, they answer and say hero.


36 posted on 03/22/2012 10:40:20 AM PDT by Know et al (The greatest argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with a voter: Churchill)
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To: edcoil
Foreign Chinese-language media with reporters in Beijing have nothing about it, other than reporting on "rumors" transmitted on blogs. I have been unable to find any of these pictures of tanks on the streets of Beijing.

Last week Chinese PM Wen Jiabao did give a rather extraordinary speech at the party congress reminding everyone that in China the Party should lead the military. Since then two guys from another faction named Bo Xilai and now, apparently, Zhou Yongkang have been removed from their positions, and it was their faction that supposedly launched this "coup." But other than at the Falun Gong publication Epoch Times, there is nothing but people on blogs reporting other people's rumors. So I am inclined to discount this, which is expected during a leadership transition in the new China where there is enough freedom of speech to say that you heard a rumor but not enough freedom of the press to actually look into it.

37 posted on 03/22/2012 10:41:50 AM PDT by untenured
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To: edcoil
Probably a little extra muscle in the capital to convince Bo Xilai’s sycophants that the game's over.

http://thenewamerican.com/world-mainmenu-26/asia-mainmenu-33/11220-bo-xilai-purged-in-chinas-communist-party-shakeup

38 posted on 03/22/2012 10:49:10 AM PDT by Cheburashka (It's legal to be out at night in spacesuits, even carrying a rag dolly. Cops hauled us in anyway.)
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To: yank in the UK
"It’s bad news when you run a police state and the police decide to turn on you"

That's where we're headed.....we need OUR Military to do a pre-emptive strike, before it's completely faggots/dykes.

39 posted on 03/22/2012 10:53:07 AM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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Can we please put this in breaking news? I have family there and I’m a little worried about this.


40 posted on 03/22/2012 11:08:23 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Ping


41 posted on 03/22/2012 11:10:08 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: null and void
At some point the military has to act out of self-preservation, I suppose...

You mean in China, of course....

42 posted on 03/22/2012 11:11:03 AM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Jim Noble

Of course! Goodness, what did you think I was implying???


43 posted on 03/22/2012 11:15:46 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1157 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

A guy in my office here just got back from China today, didnt hear anything about this.


44 posted on 03/22/2012 11:33:19 AM PDT by Moleman
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To: BitWielder1

If it’s the military, think Imperial Germany say 1911. Looking for a place in the sun. How’d that turn out?


45 posted on 03/22/2012 11:36:19 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: stormer

There was a report on John Batchelor that the media was banned from showing the arrival of Communist Party members to the recent CP Congress because too many of them were driving up in their Mercedes and BMWs, and party leaders didn’t want that to incite the poverty-stricken masses against them.


46 posted on 03/22/2012 11:45:11 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: edcoil

While what ever is happening in China may have some effect on us, the same report goes on to detail US Mil cyber security - and that IS scary - essentially the mil is ill prepared for modern cyber warfare and faces an existential threat to machines and personel ...


47 posted on 03/22/2012 12:34:00 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: edcoil

Nothing this week from a civilian friend in Beijing. When changes within the Politburo are going on, rumors are always rife.


48 posted on 03/22/2012 12:46:13 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: edcoil

49 posted on 03/22/2012 12:47:15 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: RinaseaofDs

So the Washington Times isn’t part of the MSM???

News to me.


50 posted on 03/22/2012 2:35:15 PM PDT by Raymann
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