Skip to comments.Santorum Suggests Obama Preferable to "Etch-A-Sketch" Romney.
Posted on 03/22/2012 6:27:59 PM PDT by true believer forever
Rick Santorum's latest attempt to use a Mitt Romney aide's "Etch-A-Sketch" remark against the Republican front-runner instead gave his rival a chance to fire back on Thursday, after Santorum seemed to say he'd rather see President Obama reelected than send Romney to the White House.
Speaking at an event in Texas, Santorum again made the case that Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom's comments Wednesday on CNN about a "reset" of the campaign if Romney clinched the nomination showed the former Massachusetts governor's efforts to appeal to conservatives were insincere.
"You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who's just going to be a little different than the person in there," Santorum told a crowd in San Antonio, according to NBC News. "If you're going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch-A-Sketch candidate of the future."
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>> Wouldn’t matter anyway. They’re true believers. Zealots for the most part.
The Moral Vanity Brigade as I call them.
Anyway, your objective call on that hideous post was indeed noted.
>> Perry and Herman Cain have had brain freezes... but not Rick, at least not until lately.
The lengths Rick’s supporters will go to cover his ineptitude boarders on maniacal desperation. At least the rest of us acknowledge the fallibility of our chosen candidates. How about a little object candor for once.
Romney campaign should send a thank you note to Santorum. Santorum took away the heat (at least part of it) from their own gaffe. That the statement came from the candidate himself, not an adviser, carries more weight. Romney can always fire his adviser and denounce the statement. Santorum can’t. That Gingrich now has weighed in, and sides with Romney, doesn’t help Santorum.
Ultimately, we’re at fault for allowing the perpetuation of the scum that’s inhabiting the GOP. To be fair, not all the members are intransigent, self-serving dirtbags; many reflect our mutual interests. We just need to continue pounding away. We’ll eventually hammer the shit out.
He has a point in that, why are we running a candidate who has shared many of the same positions with Obama? Because he says he's shifted right? People will see that, and when it comes to liberal vs. liberal lite, why won't they just vote for the real thing?
The problem we have with the establishment is that they are moderate and want moderates like McCain and Romney. They chirp that it's to get the independents, when the truth is because they are moderate and want a moderate. The primary process is such that the moderate has the establishment money, and the conservative candidates split the votes. They get their moderate, and even though their moderate (in this case - Romney) ran a scorched earth campaign against the conservative candidates, they expect the conservatives to jump on board. They are counting on conservatives to pull the lever because they know their moderate is better than the leftist on the other ticket. They take the conservative vote for granted. When/if their moderate (Romney) wins, then they can feel affirmation in that they get the moderate they want, they can get independents, and conservatives will be forced to vote for their candidate anyway. Then they can gladly move the party to the left and claim that a true conservative like Santorum is too far to the right.
I think that Santorum was saying that with the above paragraph in mind and in trying to get people to think, "What's the point in running someone against Obama who has held many positions (until the flip flops) that are similar to Obama?" Obama will use that against Romney.
I don’t hope that Santorum gets beat in Louisiana by Romney. I hope he gets beat by Newt. I once kinda liked Santorum until he, like Rick Perry panned out to be a light-weight, who is really kinda D-U-M-B. No wonder he got beat in his last Senate race by the largest margin ever for a defeated incumbent Senator. The guy has no political moxie. He and his advisers must be retarded. How can one person make so many gaffes and put his foot in his mouth almost every stinkin’ day without someone saying, “Hey dude; shut up.” And would someone please tell Karen Santorum to comb her damn hair!!!
I also have heard from a number of folks from PA who say they doubt Santorum will carry PA.
That would be so great. Maybe that would force him to get his DUMB ass out of the race and quit embarrassing us. Don’t be surprised if he does lose. Remember; he lost his last Senate race by the largest margin ever by a sitting Senator.
I`m stunned by how easy the GOP candidates are making this election for Obama. Even though he has the voter fraud machinery at his disposal in case the election appears close, it`s looking ever more clear he`s not going to even have to open that crate.
Much has been said and many take solace in Reagan`s comeback against Carter in the closing days of the 1980 campaign. Problem is.... none of the GOP`s gang of four bear any discernible similarities to Reagan.
Remember the GOP`s advantage in the “enthusiasm gap” just a few months ago? Contrast that to the abysmal turnout in IL`s primary.. something that told volumes about the disgust people are having toward the GOP.
It`d be nice if all four and their campaign managers would step back and put a lid on the intramural BS and focus on Obama from time to time. That`d be a refreshing development.
Dang it all Rick!
Way to McCain yourself, the GOP and every true conservative. No matter if you or Romney are the nominee, the Dem’s will run that soundbite 24/7.
Still, I guess we don’t have to wonder about you being the VP pick anymore if Romney takes the nomination ....
Wrong church and pew. I’ll be pulling the lever that helps the most to rid us of the Satan in office now.
We are back to baby steps now.
Both Romney & Obama are anti-gun, pro-homosexual, liberal judge appointing, global warming pushing, agenda-21 loving, socialized medicine, Marxist implementing socialists.
However, if Obama is in office GOP will stand with people like me to fight their agenda, while if Romney is in office GOP will fight against people like me trying to stop the agenda.
Sanatorium is right.
I’m not rick. I’m a newt supporter.
The scary thing is we’re not looking at 4 years of mittens but 8. So we need to start working now to put a challenger in place.
How would you limit Rommney?
Thru the boneheads in Congress. By getting the right people in Cabinet. By getting the right advisors hired. Lots of ways.
I wont stay home either, but I may vomit. We’re in trouble and the conservatives (aka tea party) needs to stand up and figure out how to take the establishment out of power.
Give me a break. How many people on this board have said there isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between the two. Perhaps the only difference if Romney was elected is that the Republicans in Congress wouldn’t even attempt to oppose the Romney / Obama Agenda. Name one area where we would better off to any significant degree under Romney. The train to Hell might actually slow down by a mile an hour, if Obama stays in power, since a GOP House and Senate might oppose his agenda whereas they would roll over for a liberal from their own party.
If it’s over, you can thank Newt for draining just enough votes to give Romney victories in states like Michigan and Ohio. However, a comment that Romney is no different than Obama just echos what’s been posted on this board for years.
Agreed. Also, maybe, just maybe, the GOPE (rhymes with DOPE) will realize that the way to win elections is to promote a true Conservative and not a “middle of the road guy” or a “bit to the right of Obama” guy.
Screw Romney, and FUBO.
Newt’s endorsement of a radial liberal (actually co-endorsement with ACORN) doesn’t cause you to loose any respect, but Santorum pointing out the fact that there is no real difference between Obama and Romney causes you to loose “all respect” You remind me of those seminar callers on Rush. “I’ve always voted Republican, but now....” Nobody buys it, Santorum took out your guy Newt and any chance to pile on, you’re gonna take it, even if it gives us Romney.
Freepers aren't running for president and their words won't be used in an Obama ad for reelection. Santorum's an idiot and should be run out of the Republican party.
Both Romney and Obama will destroy what little there is left of this nation.
Romney, possibly, could be the more damaging. Obama has full resistance and with have more resistance in the house and senate. Romney would have a lot of cooperation to get his liberal policies implemented.
Oh, I see. You’re supporting Romney, now.
Considering Obama has resistance in the house and senate and Romney would have cooperation - Santorum just may be correct.
One thing about Obama, he did warn America, right up front, that he plannned a fundamental change to America - Americans are too ignorant to understand that when a marxist says something like that, it’s not a good change.
Now, marxist Romney has America duped, too, but see he is even less truthful and honest than Obama.
Both Obama and Romney intend on forcing America under a single worldwide financial system - there is no real difference between the two.
Both Obama and Romney intend on ignoring the Constitution.
Avote for Romey or a vote for Obama - no real difference in the vote, but the outcome of Romney getting the election, possibly, could be more devastating than Obama.
Then you haven't been paying attention to Obama.
Please, stop trying so hard to sound clever and spend some time actually thinking.
Moreover, even some of the fiscal conservative votes, such as the constitutional amendment on the balanced budget, show a penchant for using a process to make decisions rather than the courage to make decisions - I'm not all that keen on a balanced budget amendment, I see it as a poor substitute for fiscal discipline, akin to the idiotic "zero tolerance" policies school administrators use to avoid taking the circumstances of any situation into account.
Why so? As far as I can make out, he is saying that Mitt Romney is so similar to Obama that there is little to choose between them. If that is the case, electing Mitt would be even worse than retaining Obama, as the Republican party will get all of the blame when the whole facade collapses (as it inevitably will). If you are going to have a change of direction in the Whitehouse, lets make it an actual change rather than the same policies dressed up a bit differently.
It appears that Sqantorum has access to Indianapolis' own Gary Varvel!!
Romney hasn’t changed from the very candidate that Santorum endorsed. What does that tell us about Santorum?
We Hoosiers think so, too!
Only because they are more interesting in his piety.
ROMNEY 'believes' that JS was a Prophet of GOD. What does that tell us about ROMNEY?
...the presidential campaign of Mormon Church founder Joseph Smith in 1844: Challenging Democrat James Polk and Whig Henry Clay, Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not accede to his demands that they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.
Smith viewed capturing the presidency as part of the mission of the church.
Can't have any NON-'faith building' talk in the Membership!!
The Spirit of APOSTCAY would jump on them FIERCELY!
Yet, Santorum endorsed Romney for president during the last election.
“It is very possible that Romney winning the election will do more damage to the Republican party than Obama winning reelection.”
It won’t matter. If Obama wins again, he will succeed in destroying the country. At that point, it doesn’t matter how strong or weak the Republican party is because there won’t be a country left to run.
Yes, the issue now is who will endorse Romney first, Newt or Saint Rick?
It's quite possibly the most egregious Reagan Rule violation by a primary challenger ever, is what it is. And coming from the same guy who made this appeal just 4 years ago:
"In a few short days, Republicans from across this country will decide more than their party's nominee. They will decide the very future of our party and the conservative coalition that Ronald Reagan built. Conservatives can no longer afford to stand on the sidelines in this election, and Governor Romney is the candidate who will stand up for the conservative principles that we hold dear," said Senator Santorum. "Governor Romney has a deep understanding of the important issues confronting our country today, and he is the clear conservative candidate that can go into the general election with a united Republican party."
So let's see...Mittens hasn't held office in 4 years, nor done much other than operate Bain Capital, so somehow in that time, Obama has improved enough in Santorum's standing that we might as well "stay with what we have" over the "clear conservative candidate".
Saintorum can go and stick his head in a toilet. Bastard.
It is very possible that Romney winning the election will do more damage to the Republican party than Obama winning reelection.
I remember the 2008 fiasco, where so many claimed that Obama winning would be good for the republican party, it would, somehow, teach the party a lesson. Good people backed a candidate and only that candidate. when that candidate failed to gain any traction, the good people supporting him claimed they would rather have Obama in office than a rino, they would rather have the republican party in tatters than have that rino in office. That particular rino not receiving support did not vote for nor support Obamacare. Of course, we have a different rino this time. But, so many are only supporting candidate X, no matter what. If that person isn’t the nominee, well, there’s no use voting, right? Supreme court nominations no longer seem to matter, right?
And when people stay home, so goes the votes down the ballot.
Yeah, Romney cares so much about too much spending that he signed socialized medicine and cap & trade into law in Massachusetts. So much that he defended the bailouts. Sorry, I don’t buy it.
And have you taken a good look at how awful his court picks in Massachusetts were? Here’s a 2005 excerpt from the Boston Globe:
“Governor Mitt Romney, who touts his conservative credentials to out-of-state Republicans, has passed over GOP lawyers for three-quarters (75%) of the 36 judicial vacancies he has faced, instead tapping registered Democrats or independents including two gay lawyers who have supported expanded same-sex rights.
Of the 36 people Romney named to be judges or clerk magistrates, 23 are either registered Democrats or unenrolled voters who have made multiple contributions to Democratic politicians or who voted in Democratic primaries, state and local records show.”
That doesn’t even come close to George W. Bush in my book. With Romney at the helm, the GOP will look the other way when he nominates another liberal to the SCOTUS, even if we flip the Senate.
“Romney hasnt changed from the very candidate that Santorum endorsed. What does that tell us about Santorum?”
Exactly. Meanwhile the Newt Santorum brigade has been flip-flopping all over the place,. . . Bachman, Cain, Perry, in a desperate attempt to grab onto someone they think represents them. The coffee is on and still “conservatives” can’t smell it. The no-nothings, who make up a larger percentage of electorate than we do, and who will vote this November are NOT “conservative”. Yet, we have done an amazing job of trashing the only one who can rid us of Obama. I love Starbucks, but if I know I can’t get it I’ll take Dunkin gratefully.
This isn't a Jump The Shark moment for Santorum, it's a Shark Meat moment, because Ricky didn't clear the tank....
I agree completely with what you’re saying, as a nation we CANNOT have Obama for 4 more years, given he will get a least a couple more supreme court justices alone. If Mitt is the nominee I will get behind him all the way, because at this stage ANY gamble is better than the known.
I will also like to add this as well. I know Mitt has gone to the left, I understand all that very well, but I also understand that he was running for office in one of the most liberal states in the nation. He was being elected representing a party that starts off as a horrible underdog in that state. For him to do so he had to appeal to the middle as well, and the middle of MA is absolutely nothing like the middle of say OH for instance.
My point is I’m not 100% sure that a President Romney is going to govern anything like a Governor Romney, he was elected to represent a far left leaning state and he moved to the left to do that. He wanted the job obviously and getting it meant a lot of compromise to keep the electorate happy, which I not happy about but he did it. An unfettered Romney not tied in with such a narrow electorate like he has faced before “MIGHT” (fingers crossed) realize that he will do far better swinging to the right in these political times than to the left, and do it.
Hell, its the best guess I got other than just tossing a dart into the white pages of republican party donors and asking him or her to be our leader. Either way we are so screwed this election and its completely the republican party’s fault.
But therein lies the problem: the country-club Republicans are like weeds. Pull one out and another springs up in its place. Even if Boehner and McConnell packed their bags tomorrow, there’s no way in hell the Republicans would allow someone with the guts to stand up to Mitt Romney to take their place.
If Romney decided to nominate another flaming liberal to the SCOTUS, for instance, the GOP would at best only allows token opposition, like Nancy Pelosi did for the Blue Dogs during the vote on Obamacare. Their influence was powerful enough to make even Allen West support their rotten debt ceiling deal.
I was a R. Santorum supporter but his latest comment is so over the top that I am wondering just what his game is. Some believe it is not to defeat Obama. I used to make excuses for him getting off message and making stupid statements and pointed out that nobody has made more than Obama, who is protected by he media.
What is wrong with Santorum? He is sabotaging his own campaign and turning his campaign into a circus. He certainly is not going to win over Romney supporters.
Obama is a racist.
Obama is a muslim sympathizer.
Obama HATES America.
Obama voted for a bill that would allow children that survived an abortion to die from exposure/starvation.
I could go on for whole PAGES......
Being against Romney is one thing, to claim he would be worse than Obama is foolish.
“Santorum does not have a point, his comment was over the top stupid.”
You can say that, and that does seem to be the theme here, but we’ll never know, as Romney will likely get the nomination, and the conservatives will stay home while Obama hands him his head.
Why will conservatives stay home? Simply because Romney will start lecturing the party how it needs to shed its ‘extremist’ wing (i.e., Tea Party and social conservatives). Pretty much an EXACT duplicate of 2008.
Hopefully Santorum can stay viable long enough to at least keep Romney from being the candidate - just about anyone is better (other than Ron Paul).
It is more than foolish. It sounds like something a B. Obama supporter would post on Conservative sites.
Santorum has displayed childish behavior that should disqualify him for political office. I was a Santorum supporter until he began making so many off the wall remarks.
Now I can’t stand the sight of him.
He does not sound or act like a stable man.
I totally agree. He just sunk his ship
Obviously, he is saying that that is what a lot of voters will be thinking if Romney dances around the issues as the Etch-a-Sketch comment seemed to indicate. Personally, I consider Milt a liberal, and a horrifying nominee. He would be the easiest candidate for the Punk to defeat. But Santorum will be voting for Romney, as will I, if it comes to that, and everyone knows it. OTHERS will not be as willing to vote for someone whom they believe will at best slow the speed of the train wreck.