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Zimmerman-Martin 031912.docx (City Manager Statement)
Zimmerman-Martin 031912.docx ^ | 19 March, 2012 | Norton N. Bonaparte, Jr ICMA-CM City Manager

Posted on 03/22/2012 8:17:42 PM PDT by marktwain

Fellow Citizens:

There has been a lot of media attention to the recent incident where George Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin. This is indeed a tragic situation and has caused a flood of questions and strong emotions from within our community, the region and nation. On behalf of the employees of the City of Sanford, Our deepest sympathy and prayers go out to the family and friends of Trayvon Martin. As a father, I can only image the pain Trayvon’s family must be going though. In an effort to continue to be as responsive as possible to the public seeking information on the incident, I have asked Chief Lee to provide answers to some of the most frequently asked questions regarding this matter. Below are his responses. Please understand that since this is still an ongoing investigation, the Police Department is limited in what information it can publicly release.

The City of Sanford is committed to insuring that justice is served and, therefore, the City of Sanford has contacted the United States Attorney General’s Office for assistance in this matter.

The men and women of the Sanford Police Department extend our heartfelt sympathies to the Martin family. This is indeed a tragic situation. The death of anyone due to violence, especially a 17 year old young man, is morally appalling. As this incident has generated a lot of media attention, we wanted to provide answers to some of the most frequently asked questions.

Why was George Zimmerman not arrested the night of the shooting?

When the Sanford Police Department arrived at the scene of the incident, Mr. Zimmerman provided a statement claiming he acted in self defense which at the time was supported by physical evidence and testimony. By Florida Statute, law enforcement was PROHIBITED from making an arrest based on the facts and circumstances they had at the time. Additionally, when any police officer makes an arrest for any reason, the officer MUST swear and affirm that he/she is making the arrest in good faith and with probable cause. If the arrest is done maliciously and in bad faith, the officer and the City may be held liable.

According to Florida Statute 776.032 : 776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.—

(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the defendant.

(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.

Why weren’t the 911 tapes initially released?

There are exemptions to the public records laws for active criminal intelligence and for ongoing investigations. In this instance, the 911 calls made by neighbors in the subdivision, and the non- emergency call made by Mr. Zimmerman are all key to the investigation by Sanford Police Department. In consultation with the Office of the State Attorney, the Sanford police department had decided not to release the audio recordings of the 911 calls due to the ongoing investigation. Many times, specific information is contained in those recordings which is vital to the integrity of the investigation. At the time, it was determined that if revealed, the information may compromise the integrity of the investigation prior to its completion. The 911 tapes have since been released.

Why did Mr. Zimmerman have a firearm in his possession while acting in the role of a neighborhood watch member?

Mr. Zimmerman holds a concealed weapon permit issued from the State of Florida. He is authorized to carry the weapon in a concealed manner wherever Florida Statute dictates. Neighborhood Watch programs are designed for members of a neighborhood to be “eyes and ears” for police and to watch out for their neighbors. They are not members of the Police Department nor are they vigilantes. Training provided by law enforcement agencies to Neighborhood Watch organizations stresses non-contact surveillance of suspicious situations and notifying police of those situations so that law enforcement can respond and take control of the situation.

Mr. Zimmerman was not acting outside the legal boundaries of Florida Statute by carrying his weapon when this incident occurred. He was in fact on a personal errand in his vehicle when he observed Mr. Martin in the community and called the Sanford Police Department.

If Zimmerman was told not to continue to follow Trayvon, can that be considered in this investigation?

Yes it will; however, the telecommunications call taker asked Zimmerman “are you following him”. Zimmerman replied, “yes”. The call taker stated “you don’t need to do that”. The call taker’s suggestion is not a lawful order that Mr. Zimmerman would be required to follow. Zimmerman’s statement was that he had lost sight of Trayvon and was returning to his truck to meet the police officer when he says he was attacked by Trayvon.

Why was George Zimmerman labeled as “squeaky clean” when in fact he has a prior arrest history?

In one of the initial meetings with the father of the victim the investigator related to him the account that Mr. Zimmerman provided of the incident. At that time the investigator said that Mr. Zimmerman portrayed himself to be “squeaky clean”. We are aware of the background information regarding both individuals involved in this event. We believe Mr. Martin may have misconstrued this information. What about media reenactments of the shooting incident? Any media reenactments of the shooting incident are purely speculation. To date the Sanford Police Department has not released any rendition of the events of the evening to anyone other than the Office of the State Attorney. The renditions we have seen are not consistent with the evidence in this case.

The Sanford Police Department has conducted a complete and fair investigation of this incident. We have provided the results of our investigation to the Office of the State Attorney for their review and consideration for possible criminal prosecution.

Although the Police Department is the target of the troubling questions, let me assure you we too feel the pain of this senseless tragedy that has dramatically affected our community. Therefore, as we move forward and strive to answer the questions that are a point of controversy in the community, we ask for your patience, understanding and assistance in getting the correct information to the community.

Thank you,

Norton N. Bonaparte, Jr., ICMA-CM City Manager March 19, 2012


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; fl; georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin; trayvonneighborhood
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To: PhilDragoo

Damn.


101 posted on 03/23/2012 5:08:28 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Look for the union label, then buy elsewhere.)
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To: PhilDragoo

And I’m sure he was suspended from school because he was late a few times...


102 posted on 03/23/2012 5:20:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Moonman62

911 operators have no power to order a citizen to do anything.


103 posted on 03/23/2012 5:22:30 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: marktwain
What I find particularly telling is his unsolicited statement to the police, shortly after their arrival: I called for help, but nobody came.

Hell of a thing, ain't it? We know people heard him calling for help and I could hear at least one adult male voice in the background of a 911 call. There had to be more and not one person answered those cries for help. America ain't what it used to be.

104 posted on 03/23/2012 5:27:11 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: little jeremiah
Good point. We may assume Trayvon's school records are scrubbed or sealed--just as his Facebook account was.
105 posted on 03/23/2012 5:36:46 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo

bttt


106 posted on 03/23/2012 5:53:01 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: little jeremiah
[inaudible]

Listen again ... "f***ing c**n".

107 posted on 03/23/2012 5:58:22 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Maybe stop drinking from the bottle that says “Drink Me”.


108 posted on 03/23/2012 6:11:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: PhilDragoo

From what I’ve read, his school records are sealed by request from family. I wonder if he has a rap sheet.


109 posted on 03/23/2012 6:15:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: PhilDragoo

Shouldn’t it be “Trayvon All Growed Up” /s

Bet you won’t see these pics all over the place.


110 posted on 03/23/2012 6:27:20 PM PDT by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: Mears

From his FB now scrubbed.


111 posted on 03/23/2012 6:33:27 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: little jeremiah

Constitution...rule of law...innocent until proven guilty. America.


112 posted on 03/23/2012 6:45:00 PM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: PapaBear3625

“Teenagers have been doing odd irrational things for all of recorded history. “


I had five teenagers in the house for a few years,believe me I remember those days.

On “Criminal Minds” once they said that they don’t profile anyone under 18 because teenagers usually profile as psychopaths. I thought that was quite humorous.


113 posted on 03/23/2012 6:45:37 PM PDT by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: little jeremiah

Well, well, well indeed. By the way, what the hell kind of name is Trayvon anyway?


114 posted on 03/23/2012 7:08:49 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: mojitojoe

A name of color.


115 posted on 03/23/2012 7:09:38 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: little jeremiah

So what?? Wow, posts like this make it evident to me that you’re into some sort of racial profiling. Who cares what he is dressed like?

Does this give someone the right to shoot him for no reason. You can find a black kid that has that kind of look just about anywhere. I personally don’t care what photos of him they use since it is irrelevant to the point at hand.

And, to be honest, those pics don’t look too much like him at all.


116 posted on 03/23/2012 7:10:38 PM PDT by bguyj2012
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To: Mears
On “Criminal Minds” once they said that they don’t profile anyone under 18 because teenagers usually profile as psychopaths. I thought that was quite humorous.

Love Criminal Minds. I remember that line. It's amazing the odd tidbits you can pick up from crime/cop/forensic shows.

118 posted on 03/23/2012 7:13:38 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: little jeremiah

They tried this same racist crap with Joe Horn in 2007. It didn’t work then and it won’t work this time either. However this time, we have a president that wants a race war to fire up his base.

Joe Horn:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLtKCC7z0yc

Black Panthers get their a$$es handed to them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEZ9s0ZBAu8


119 posted on 03/23/2012 7:18:29 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s just a statement of fact; Zimmerman shot and killed Martin. It doesn’t imply guilt.


120 posted on 03/23/2012 7:19:09 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: PhilDragoo

Okay. I see why maybe Zimmerman was nervous.


121 posted on 03/23/2012 7:19:09 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: little jeremiah

A name of color? what color is trayvon? Never heard of it.


122 posted on 03/23/2012 7:21:22 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: bguyj2012

No one thinks it’s ok to kill a kid just because of how he looks.

It is ok to kill a kid if he is sitting on your chest beating the hell out of you...

Has zero to do with what he looks like though.


123 posted on 03/23/2012 7:26:11 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: little jeremiah
Maybe stop drinking from the bottle that says “Drink Me”.

Kiss My Royal Irish A$$

124 posted on 03/23/2012 8:04:21 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: bguyj2012

Hello newbie. Color me suspicious. Pun intended.


125 posted on 03/23/2012 8:20:16 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama is afraid if he needs to start a fight with Catholics. He's losing the women vote!!!)
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To: marktwain
One thing that has bothered me is the type o sentiment expressed in this quote from the article:

The death of anyone due to violence, especially a 17 year old young man, is morally appalling

This assumes this was an innocent young man. There are MANY teenagers across this country who are up to no good. It is not a tragedy when ANYONE is killed. Sometimes it is necessary to protect the innocent.

126 posted on 03/23/2012 9:43:14 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama is afraid if he needs to start a fight with Catholics. He's losing the women vote!!!)
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To: bguyj2012; mojitojoe

A friend got it off his FaceBook page.

You’re a noob and a troll. “Racial profiling”? What kind of garbage is that? Martin was on top of Zimmerman beating him. You think Zimmerman should have just sacrificed himself?

And since the leftist media is showing only photos of Martin was he was several years younger, I think it’s in the interest of truth that photos of how he looked very recently to make it into the public eye.


127 posted on 03/23/2012 9:52:35 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: mojitojoe

Everyone is a person of color, unless they’re transparent...


128 posted on 03/23/2012 9:54:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: little jeremiah

you still dont get it. not every picture of every victim or perp in any situation is going to be one taken within the last few months or go.

maybe, just maybe they use those pictures to emphasize the point that he was still a child, not a grown man.

and again, those pictures are irrelevant to the investigation at hand. maybe photos of zimmerman with a bloody nose after the fight would be more appropriate.

To the poster who said you have the right to kill a person sitting on you beating you up: If that really was what happened, its a fight that Zimmerman instigated and started. And any sane person would retreat once they saw a gun, despite your assertion that he just kept pummeling away.
Also, lets look at the logistics of a struggle. Assume they were wrestling around. How was he able to get a clean shot at the guy’s chest while being pummelled? Instinct dictates that you throw your arms up to block the blows. If anything, Zimmerman probably showed the gun, told the kid to get down, mounted him, and shot him. The bloody nose and stains can be attributed to Zimmerman possibly pulling the guy to the ground and both of them falling.


129 posted on 03/24/2012 1:19:00 AM PDT by bguyj2012
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To: PghBaldy

Yeah, your racist pun didn’t fly over my head either.
Its nice that you try to use the possible race of a poster to discredit their arguments. Really nice.


130 posted on 03/24/2012 1:19:15 AM PDT by bguyj2012
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To: wtc911

“The same tape shows Zimmerman’s aggressive actions of following both in car and on foot.”

...as part of a Neighborhood Watch program. Your words are loaded and prejudicial.

“One was unarmed and avoided contact - one pursued with a gun.”

No. One initially avoided contact and ran like a criminal. The NWatch person pursued, waiting for police. Then what we know is that Zimmerman was getting the living crap beat out of him, before he shot the guy, amid screams for help.

Btw, the gun was legal and he carried a permit, something most FReepers advocate.


131 posted on 03/24/2012 1:59:04 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: bguyj2012

“If anything, Zimmerman probably showed the gun, told the kid to get down, mounted him, and shot him.”

LOL, that speculation isn’t supported by the facts known, and the opposite IS supported by audio from witnesses.


132 posted on 03/24/2012 2:31:36 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: rbmillerjr
One initially avoided contact and ran like a criminal. The NWatch person pursued,

_____________________________________________

Ran like a criminal????

Your slip is showing FRiend.

Exactly what should a teenager do when he is being followed by a stranger in a truck?

What would you tell your kids to do if they are being followed by a stranger in a truck? Go chat him up?

The kid did exactly what any responsible adult would teach him to do....get away from the stranger following you in a vehicle.

It speaks volumes that you see that as criminal behavior.

Oh, thank you for confirming that Zimmerman pursued him.

133 posted on 03/24/2012 6:41:35 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: rbmillerjr

And in the sentence after that, I explained what could have led to the bruises Zimmerman received. None of the eyewitnesses place the kid on him throwing punches down. The eyewitness accounts based on the calls show Zimmerman on the black guy, who is face down.


134 posted on 03/24/2012 6:47:22 AM PDT by bguyj2012
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To: rbmillerjr

There is nothing to suggest that Zimmerman announced he was part of a Neighborhood Watch program. The tapes alone suggest that he was already in an aggressive, frustrated state of mind by the time he exited the car.

Picture this: It is 6:30 pm, some guy, not wearing a cop uniform or badge, just starts tailing you in a car, you have no idea who this person is and what they’re up to. Could be a kidnapper or a gangster or drug pusher for all you know. You’re 17, so not much rational thought going on.

Out of fear, you start speeding up. According to Trayvon’s girlfriend, he initially did not run, he just walked fast. By the time Zimmerman got to him, he was only 70 or so yards from his father’s house.

How is moving to escape some unknown danger running like a criminal? Oh, I guess because the person running is black? Right? smh


135 posted on 03/24/2012 6:47:27 AM PDT by bguyj2012
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To: bguyj2012; Norm Lenhart; TheOldLady; 50mm; darkwing104

Everything you write is a lie, assumption, speculation or sheer nonsense.

You are a troll and why you haven’t been banned yet I have no idea.

When a noob goes around slinging accusations of “Racist” at longtime freepers and then takes the side of the likes of Al Sharpton and 0bastard, it rings a few alarm bells.

Your pathetic posting history is clear.


137 posted on 03/24/2012 8:22:24 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: PhilDragoo

Wow, where did you get that? Where are these pictures on the national and local Florida media?!!


138 posted on 03/24/2012 8:24:07 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Zimmerman immediately acknowledged that he "shot and killed" Martin. That is not in dispute. Whether the shooting was a crime or not, is the whole issue, and very much in dispute.
139 posted on 03/24/2012 8:31:25 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: NoLibZone
?? He doesn't look very white to me. Not sure though why you think it would matter.
140 posted on 03/24/2012 8:33:53 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: ltc8k6
.What do you mean no apparent source?" Isn't the police report enough of a "source" for you? The Chief of Police is reporting what was said when the police took their statement from Zimmerman. Get a grip, einsteins.
141 posted on 03/24/2012 8:38:27 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: ltc8k6
Sorry, junior. You're just barking up the wrong tree. This is all way beyond Zimmerman's 911 call, but you seem to be stuck on stupid for some reason.
142 posted on 03/24/2012 8:41:49 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Revolting cat!
Let’s imagine just for argument’s sake...,

Now you are really off the wall. Time to hang it up, Sherlock. This is real life, not Murder she Wrote.

143 posted on 03/24/2012 8:45:22 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bguyj2012

“And in the sentence after that, I explained what could have led to the bruises Zimmerman received. None of the eyewitnesses place the kid on him throwing punches down. The eyewitness accounts based on the calls show Zimmerman on the black guy, who is face down.”

You are either illiterate or delusional. Check out FR articles now breaking stating that witness states Martin attacked Zimmerman.

Troll Bait...I feel Kittie lightning in the air.


144 posted on 03/24/2012 8:56:06 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: Clara Lou
a “towering” young man < a short guy with a loaded gun

That's why they used to call them "equalizers."

You and the other zealots here really should try to hold your water until you get some facts instead of wild-eyed speculations. Not everyone is cut out to be Dick Tracy.

145 posted on 03/24/2012 8:58:10 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bguyj2012

You’re a liar.


146 posted on 03/24/2012 9:03:59 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: marktwain
Think about it. We're doing exactly what Obama wants us to do. We're arguing about racism and guns. Next up on the agenda: race riots revisited and possible Martial Law?

I am going to take my own advice and not comment further on this issue until the investigation is complete. I have no idea what actually occurred but I do know that I can't trust the media to accurately report on the incident. I don't want to be one of Obama's useful idiots.

147 posted on 03/24/2012 9:28:01 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: bguyj2012

If the sheer fantasy contained in this post could be extracted, refined and turned into natural gas, the United States would be energy independent overnight. Eternally.

Go back to DU, the CBC or whichever network sent you and tell them you failed.


148 posted on 03/24/2012 11:10:50 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: hinckley buzzard

You’ll be surprised to know, since I can tell that you have not read my posts, that I am not a “zealot.” My only firm stance has been that Zimmerman should never have gotten out of his truck. I have not proclaimed him guilty or innocent. And I have specifically avoided speculation, because we don’t have all of the facts.

You are typical of the shoot-your-mouth-off-without-reading variety of commenter here at FR. I ignore the willfully ignorant, including you.


149 posted on 03/24/2012 3:11:37 PM PDT by Clara Lou (ABO! Go Newt!)
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To: bguyj2012
>"If that really was what happened, its a fight that Zimmerman instigated and started."

Getting ambushed is instigation?

So if someone blind tackles you without warning, and starts to wail on your face, it's your fault?

You have some warped logic.

150 posted on 03/24/2012 7:33:42 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Mohammedan law every woman must belong to a man will delay the end of slavery until Islam has ceased)
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