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No, Senator Santorum, Obama and Romney arenít the same
Hot Air ^ | March 22, 2012 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 03/23/2012 6:11:26 AM PDT by RobinMasters

As someone who supports Rick Santorum for President, and who will caucus tomorrow in the next phase of Minnesota’s political process as a delegate, I understand the need to replace Barack Obama in 2012 in order to right the American ship of state and address the serious problems that Obama has either created, amplified, or ignored over the last three years. I do, however, wonder whether Senator Santorum understands that need. Yesterday, as Allahpundit noted with excellent analysis, Santorum told a Louisiana audience that if Mitt Romney won the nomination, we’d be better off sticking with what we’ve already got:

“You win by giving people a choice. You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who’s just going to be a little different than the person in there. If you’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future,” Santorum told a crowd at USAA.

Er, no, we wouldn’t be better off with Obama than with Romney, for many reasons. Before we get to those reasons, let’s note that Newt Gingrich, at least, does get this right:

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: romney4obamacare; romney4whatdoyouwant; romneythefacade; romneytheliar
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To: Sudetenland

I wanted Newt, but I will support Romney. Better him than Saint-orum’s big-government conservatism and certainly better Mitt than Barry Soetero.

Support Romney? I can’t do that. He will garner no support from me whatsoever. I might—might vote for him, that would be about the best I can do for Romney but otherwise he and the Party Apparatchiks are on their own. They got their candidate, now lets see them win after telling the conservatives to go to hell.


81 posted on 03/23/2012 10:36:48 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

I hate Romney, only because he’s the scum of the earth, you moron.

I don’t believe you. You are going to vote for him which means you agree with him on his platform. And you call me a moron. You want to destroy the country. Forget it.


82 posted on 03/23/2012 10:49:25 AM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: napscoordinator

News flash Einstein: You called me a Romney lover. I called you a moron. Even someone as disingenuous as yourself can easily figure out which of us got insulted worse.


83 posted on 03/23/2012 10:57:11 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

You called me a Romney lover.

Bottom line. Are you voting for Romney? That is what I mean by Romney Lover. You cannot be a Romney hater and vote for him. That does not make sense. Maybe saying You like Romney would have been better, but it is the same. You support and agree with Romney which is why he is getting your vote. I will NEVER vote for a faux conservative as badly as Romney. He is plastic and fake.


84 posted on 03/23/2012 10:59:49 AM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: napscoordinator
You cannot be a Romney hater and vote for him. and You support and agree with Romney which is why he is getting your vote. are both completely fabricated bullsh!t. You want to argue that not voting will force either a change in future GOP approach or increase the power of grassroots movements, well that's another thing. But you really suck at honestly assigning motive.
85 posted on 03/23/2012 11:10:39 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: napscoordinator
And just to be fair - a faux conservative as badly as Romney. He is plastic and fake is completely unfabricated and true.
86 posted on 03/23/2012 11:14:57 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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Rick is NOT right. This is the same attitude that brought us Obama in 2008. Rick’s remark is even more strange given his support for Romney at the time.

Rick is NOT right. If Romney wins the nomination, expect Rick to endorse him.

Go Newt!


87 posted on 03/23/2012 11:20:08 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Newt/Sarah 2012)
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To: napscoordinator

I agree with you 100% about Jim... but I just was not going to presume to speak for him. Thanks for seeing the world as it is... too many rose colored lenses on FR these days.

LLS


88 posted on 03/23/2012 11:24:41 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
We will find out soon enough... my opinion is that Jim will stand against romney tomorrow... for the same reasons that he does today... but I can only speak for myself.

LLS

89 posted on 03/23/2012 11:43:45 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

Let’s just hope both of us don’t have to face this disaster. I guess there is still time.


90 posted on 03/23/2012 12:04:03 PM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: napscoordinator
Amen that - couldn't agree with you more.

Given your druthers - Rick or Newt? I'm Newt, for the record.

91 posted on 03/23/2012 12:08:37 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Girlene

I don’t like either of them...but I’m tired of Rick’s holier than thou attitude...and he can’t keep his foot out of his mouth!


92 posted on 03/23/2012 2:10:16 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: JediJones
” No conservative could possibly think Romney is better than Cain or Santorum, so what are you then?”

You missed a couple of my points by a country mile but it's okay. We just disagree and I don't attempt to persuade after most FReepers and the Tea Party rejected Governor Perry. It became clear to me that winning the presidency was of no importance. Neither Cain, Bachman, nor Santorum would succeed in that effort. I'll vote for whomever is in the Republican slot in the general election. Making a statement by not voting does nothing and insults our right to vote. It's very likely Romney has been battered beyond repair. Most people don't know or don't like Santorum. Newt = great statesman with baggage too heavy to carry. The presidency doesn't matter nearly as much as the congress and local elections. What am I? I'm a sensible, fiscal conservative who believes social issues are controlled through good parents and churches demanding the best thing for their kids at the local level. I believe the president is but a figurehead.

93 posted on 03/23/2012 3:47:24 PM PDT by FryingPan101
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To: FryingPan101
Making a statement by not voting does nothing and insults our right to vote.

Most people I've seen say they'll be showing up to vote for their Congressmen and writing in a President if there is no conservative choice available. I'm considering Newt/Palin or Newt/West myself. I definitely don't believe Newt has too much "baggage," certainly not compared to Obama. Most incumbent presidential elections are a referendum on the economy, so it was stupid for anyone to consider "electability" to such a degree. However, this is the first time we might lose even in a bad economy, because it's extremely unusual for the party to nominate a candidate who is both unlikable and way on the opposite end of the political spectrum from the party's base. Mitt from the beginning was the most unelectable candidate of the bunch except possibly for Gary Johnson.

94 posted on 03/23/2012 4:08:55 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: FryingPan101
I'm a sensible, fiscal conservative who believes social issues are controlled through good parents and churches demanding the best thing for their kids at the local level

Good parents and churches can't restore my legal right to stop my children from being aborted without my knowledge or consent. And they can't stop tax and legal benefits from being bestowed on homosexual couples as if their actions were equivalent to that of a married husband and wife.

95 posted on 03/23/2012 4:15:25 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: JediJones

“And they can’t stop tax and legal benefits from being bestowed on homosexual couples as if their actions were equivalent to that of a married husband and wife.”

Yes it can but the fight is long. We just attempted to recall our mayor for overturning the vote of the people who had voted not to give benefits. We had our petition overturned because those petitions were made available in churches. Our side appealed but all three judges ruled in favor of the mayor because of the petitions being in churches. It’s a fight that has to be fought. The ground rules have to be identified. We only have to know what to do like the other side does. Money is the key to everything. Without money, they can’t impose their will. As far as abortion goes, stopping it is never going to be a reality. Stopping the money to fund it with taxpayer dollars is the only thing we can do. Having only two social issues as a prerequisite for choosing a president narrows your choices because of the law. No candidate can say they’ll ignore the law.


96 posted on 03/23/2012 5:01:04 PM PDT by FryingPan101
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To: FryingPan101

I’m fine with my choices being narrowed. These issues matter because of a president’s power to appoint judges not to mention their role in approving legislation as well as direct executive orders such as the Mexico City policy.


97 posted on 03/23/2012 5:09:22 PM PDT by JediJones (The Divided States of Obama's Declaration of Dependence: Death, Taxes and the Pursuit of Crappiness)
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To: RummyChick; RobinMasters

And under a Santorum Presidency, Etch A Sketch would pay 0% taxes. Let’s hear it for manufacturing!


98 posted on 03/23/2012 8:49:33 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (I declare for Santorum.)
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To: JediJones

The fight is more important than voting “none of the above.” We have to beat them at their own game using money and the courts. Losing battles on the way to winning wars.

This from our local TV station NewsChannel 9 El Paso TX.
Texas’ Highest Court Denies Motion Against Cook
Updated: 47 minutes ago
http://ktsm.m0bl.net/w/main/story/57349467/
There’s good news for El Paso Mayor John Cook. The Texas Supreme Court might not hear another appeal for a recall election until it’s too late.

Mayor Cook is scheduled to leave office in June of next year. Any recall would have to take place within a year of his departure, and that makes this June the deadline for The Supreme Court to hear the case. Recall organizers are running out of time to kick the mayor out of office.

Mayor Cook says the recall election would cost El Pasoans $1.3 million dollars.

He says that he isn’t against a recall if it’s conducted legally.

“If people want to recall an elected official and they get the requisite number of petitions that are gathered legally, then that’s their right. It’s in our charter. It’s in the state law,” said Cook.

Tom Brown with Word of Life Church led the recall effort after Mayor Cook and two city reps voted to reinstate healthcare benefits to unmarried partners of city employees.

After Friday’s ruling, Brown’s attorney Theresa Caballero said, “Courts have no business stopping elections. Period.”.

Caballero has a stern message for anyone who prevents the recall.

“Any judge who thinks they have the right to stop an election should be raked over the coals,” said Caballero.

Mayor Cook admits the effort to recall him has been stressful, but he wants his experience to teach his grandson an important life lesson.

“I said, you know Christian, I want you to learn a lesson from this that’s if you really believe in something, regardless of what the consequence is, you should stand up for what you think is right. Even if I had been recalled from office, I would have walked out of office proud that I stood up for what I thought was right,” said Cook.

Mayor Cook says he has almost $300,000 dollars in legal fees after fighting the recall effort. He plans to ask a judge to make Pastor Brown pay the bill. If a judge denies that request, he says he will accept any donation the public is willing to give.


99 posted on 03/23/2012 9:19:31 PM PDT by FryingPan101
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