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One problem: Rick Santorum never said he would ‘rather have Barack Obama as president’
Daily Caller ^ | March 23, 2012 | Matt K. Lewis

Posted on 03/23/2012 8:07:36 AM PDT by God'sgrrl

Rick Santorum is getting grief — even from some of his supporters — for saying we’d be better off sticking with Barack Obama.

The only problem is…he didn’t say that.

Here’s what Santorum actually said:

“You win by giving people a choice. You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who’s just going to be a little different than the person in there. If you’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future,” Santorum told a crowd at USAA.

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1 posted on 03/23/2012 8:07:50 AM PDT by God'sgrrl
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To: God'sgrrl

Santorum is a threat to derail Mittens, so the R establishment and sodomites like Drudge will say anything to advance their candidate.


2 posted on 03/23/2012 8:11:19 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: God'sgrrl

I agree that Santorum was characterizing what voters would be thinking and not saying it directly himself.

But as usual with Santorum, he’s so poorly spoken, and such a simple tool, that it’s easy for the left (like Drudge) to twist his words.

Any High School newspaper could have performed that function.

Santorum is a well-meaning blithering idiot.


3 posted on 03/23/2012 8:15:59 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: God'sgrrl

Rick is simply telling the truth.


4 posted on 03/23/2012 8:16:13 AM PDT by llmc1 ( Santorum/West 2012)
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To: God'sgrrl
The media is lying about Santorum again. The media is always lying about Santorum. Every single day since Santorum won the Iowa caucuses the media has been deliberately lying about him. The vicious lies are all attacks to make Santorum look bad and lose support.

Santorum is continually lied about in the media and in attack ads. Santorum has been outspent about 20 to 1. It is truly amazing that Santorum has done as well as he has.

5 posted on 03/23/2012 8:18:01 AM PDT by detective
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To: God'sgrrl
“You win by giving people a choice. You win by giving people the opportunity to see a different vision for our country, not someone who’s just going to be a little different than the person in there. If you’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have instead of taking a risk with what may be the Etch A Sketch candidate of the future,” Santorum told a crowd at USAA.

You might want to take a different approach. Rick clearly said what he said and meant what he said.

Santorum=neophyte=inexperienced=shoots himself in the foot=constantly=notreadyforprimetime [but now too late for Newt]

6 posted on 03/23/2012 8:18:04 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: samtheman

“Santorum is a well-meaning blithering idiot.”

Yep. Lost re-election to the Senate in his own state by a LANDSLIDE. He isn’t going to be our nominee. He isn’t going to be president. All he is doing is helping Obama. Same with Gingrich.

Like him or not, its time to get behind Romney and help him defeat the Muslim Marxist. We cannot beat the left wing media and the Democrats if we are fighting amongst ourselves.


7 posted on 03/23/2012 8:19:28 AM PDT by Astronaut
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To: 21twelve; Absolutely Nobama; AFPhys; afraidfortherepublic; AmericanInTokyo; ...
Santorum for President Ping List.

FReepmail “Antoninus” to be added or removed.

8 posted on 03/23/2012 8:20:30 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: God'sgrrl
Exactly. I didn't see how Santorum’s latest comment was any different than the previous “needing the best contrast” ones. Of course I watched the Fox “Special Report” clowns last night claim “Santorum ended his campaign with that remark”. Just tells me Santorum is still a threat since Ailes has deployed the hit team again. Santorum’s due to pick up LA. If he does it by 12 points like polls are showing, it might dawn on somebody that it's just like the Romney triumph of the ages in Illinois, and this isn't over.
9 posted on 03/23/2012 8:22:14 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: God'sgrrl

Rick was right in his statement. Who is going to vote Obummer Lite when they can have the real thing. I remember some dude talking about the difference between Pale Pastels and Bold Colors a number of years back as well.

http://rmcpac.com/ronald-reagan-stated-1975-raise-banner-bold-colors-not-pale-pastels


10 posted on 03/23/2012 8:23:26 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: God'sgrrl

Clearly the people who need translations for everything the man says, really don’t want to know the truth. I understood him perfectly fine just like when he said unemployment doesn’t matter if you don’t have freedom.


11 posted on 03/23/2012 8:23:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: detective

Santorum has a knack of making himself look bad. He makes statements which may hold some truth but never thinks about the future ramifications of what he says. This is idiocy, a completely unnecessary statement, designed only for the benefit of his self absorbed self. I pray Santorum will not by luck become president, it would be a daily carnage by media. An unmitigated disaster.


12 posted on 03/23/2012 8:24:14 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: God'sgrrl

In other words, “No Pale Pastels”
RR


13 posted on 03/23/2012 8:24:21 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: God'sgrrl
Well, in the ‘truth doesn't matter’ era of news we are getting today, there is no way to tell what kind of absolutely crazy stories we are going to hear up to the election. Everything, and I mean everything, is getting just completely out of hand.

The Leftist goal of ‘crushing America’ and installing a dictatorship is within their grasp for the first time and there is nothing at all that they will not do to make it happen. Every possibility is open.

We already see Sharpton and Farrakhan deliberately inciting race riots. We see the Left formulating their own riots. The whole idea here is to give Hussein any excuse for martial law. The more violent and crazy they become, in their mind, the more they win. Any excuse will do.

The Left knows they can never win an election and that is not what they are about anyway. They are about force and take, against what the people want.

This is going to be a crazy time in America. Riot after riot backed by complete distortion and disinformation coming from the so called ‘news’. Gonna be a wild ride to 2013 and after.

Even if Hussein loses, there is guarantee he will step down. They will use the OJ Black extortion tactic, if I don't stay there will be riots everywhere. Husein may even just start a war somewhere when he loses. “I can't leave now!” Anything could happen.

14 posted on 03/23/2012 8:25:10 AM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Yep. Santo supporters are lying to themselves again.


15 posted on 03/23/2012 8:25:24 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: Lazlo in PA
Louisiana, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Texas. Lets LINE THEM UP, AND BEAT ROMNEY and deny him the nomination. This is TRULY in the grassroots tradition of Ronald Reagan taking on the naysayers, the national media, and the Republican National Committee and GOP Elite Leadership from coast to coast...vanquishing their pretty boys they are putting up against a doctrinaire conservative.

EAGLES UP!! Lets do it! Lots of work to do for all of us on behalf of Rick for the next few weeks.

16 posted on 03/23/2012 8:25:37 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If Free Republic morphs into a supportive site for Romney, I'll conclude my 13 year participation.)
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To: detective
It's not just the media....(although you're right)...

.....have you not read through the daily threads at FR & waded through the lies, innuendo, ridicule against Santorum?..

..there's a core... 'let'a beat up Santorum today'...group who never has a kind thing to say about him.

17 posted on 03/23/2012 8:26:40 AM PDT by Guenevere (....Whom God calls,... He equips......Press On Santorum!)
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To: samtheman
Santorum is a brilliant man!

It's the media who are being deliberate blithering idiots.

18 posted on 03/23/2012 8:27:53 AM PDT by Guenevere (....Whom God calls,... He equips......Press On Santorum!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
“Santorum=neophyte=inexperienced=shoots himself in the foot=constantly=notreadyforprimetime”

You are just repeating and spreading the false narrative about Santorum that is being promoted by the media and by attack ads. They take what Santorum says and twist it around or outright lie about it and then portray Santorum as an idiot, a religious fanatic, a man who wants to hurt women, etc.

Santorum is being attacked and lied about because he is a good and moral man. It is that simple. Haven't you seen enough anti-Christian bias in the media to see that?

If you don't agree with Santorum or don't think he is the best candidate that is fine. But please don't add to the lies and the dishonest, coordinated effort to destroy a good man.

19 posted on 03/23/2012 8:28:23 AM PDT by detective
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To: Astronaut

Can you say that on this site?


20 posted on 03/23/2012 8:28:33 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: Toespi

No....YOU have a knack of making yourself look bad every single time you post against Santorum.


21 posted on 03/23/2012 8:30:06 AM PDT by Guenevere (....Whom God calls,... He equips......Press On Santorum!)
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To: God'sgrrl
But Romney’s response — that he was “disappointed to hear that Rick Santorum would rather have Barack Obama as president than a Republican” — was utterly misleading.

I missed this little gem. Romney capitalized on the lie. Well done Mitt. Too bad the media won't be lying in your favor in the general. Well, that's not quite true. There is FOX.

22 posted on 03/23/2012 8:31:16 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: samtheman
Santo is in WAY over his head. That much is obvious. And his fanatical following has to constantly “clarify” what it was he “really” said.......

Is there some other language we are missing here? Where the actual message is lost in the interpretation? According to them it is. And we must all be idiots for not understanding what is painfully, an utter embarrassment.

23 posted on 03/23/2012 8:31:57 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Toespi
Santorum has a knack of making himself look bad.

The media has a knack for making whoever they choose look bad. Each candidate is guilty of gaffes.
24 posted on 03/23/2012 8:31:57 AM PDT by God'sgrrl (twitter.com/Women4Santorum)
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To: Astronaut
Like him or not, its time to get behind Romney and help him defeat the Muslim Marxist.

And what issue exactly are we going to be able to fight Obummer with when that loser Lib RINO is our candidate?

Obamacare? No

Tax and Cap? No

Gay Agenda? No

Govt' Mandates? No

Man Made Global Warming Hoax? No

2nd Amendment issues? No

The TARP bailouts? No

High Gas Prices are bad for the country? No

Looks like all the major issues of the day are going to be off the table because the Rats will be able to point to the record of Romney and say that he agreed with the President. Swell.

Like it or not, Rick is 100% right about Romney taking important issues off the table for the GOP and now Milt is saying that the economy is improving so what is the point of even having him the nominee since that is all he has to offer?

25 posted on 03/23/2012 8:32:44 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Toespi
He would clean house as President Santorum and would staff Washington with TOP CONSERVATIVES in all government agencies, cleaning out that place. He would grow in the job. He would have it no more easier or tough than the national MSM towards Ronald Reagan. Convinced of it. You gotta admit. Santorum is an absolute energetic, sincere, fighting, scrappy tireless campaigner and will not give up. He has "Presidential fire in the belly" and is having a great time at the same time. God Bless Him daily, he will prevail I feel it. Just when the media and Elite GOP-e get cocky, WHAM!, they are in for a Southern and Heartland Surprise. Outspent like that, with an array of national RINOs against him and he is still winning primaries or coming in second. This guy has incredible moxie, not a soul can tell or show me otherwise. I think strength must be from the family and their daily praying sessions and masses and huddles before heading out there again for one more vigorous day to stay in the race. HATS OFF TO SUCH A MAN IN OUR PARTY.

26 posted on 03/23/2012 8:33:59 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If Free Republic morphs into a supportive site for Romney, I'll conclude my 13 year participation.)
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To: conservative98
Thanks Newbie. And, uh, suppose you tell us who you are FOR??!!
27 posted on 03/23/2012 8:35:29 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If Free Republic morphs into a supportive site for Romney, I'll conclude my 13 year participation.)
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To: God'sgrrl
Santorum has a knack of making himself look bad.

I'd have to go along with that...he hands the media their plays....his lack of discerning ability comes into play and his mouth moves accordingly........something well known in Congress and here in PA.

28 posted on 03/23/2012 8:35:52 AM PDT by caww
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I will vote for Santorum when this circus gets to NJ... anybody over Romney.

But it’s sad that the choice we have now is between Mr. Stupid and Mr. Evil.

Between the Dummy and the Devil.


29 posted on 03/23/2012 8:36:08 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: God'sgrrl
Santorum has a knack of making himself look bad.

I'd have to go along with that...he hands the media their plays....his lack of discerning ability comes into play and his mouth moves accordingly........something well known in Congress and here in PA.

30 posted on 03/23/2012 8:36:14 AM PDT by caww
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To: Astronaut

Unbelievable


31 posted on 03/23/2012 8:36:49 AM PDT by God'sgrrl (twitter.com/Women4Santorum)
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To: Astronaut

Like him or not, its time to get behind Romney and help him defeat the Muslim Marxist.

NO WAY IN HE!! I will ONLY vote for Santorum or Gingrich. If they are not the nominees than too bad. People like you have zero principles. You probably wanted Romney from the start. Romney is no better than Obama. Please explain your love for Romney. I can’t think of one thing that would make me hold my nose. I did hold my nose for McCain because he chose Palin and he served his country. Romney never even served the country. Yuk. Sure your gonna say that Gingrich and Santorum haven’t either, but they are acceptable candidates to me. Romney is NOT.


32 posted on 03/23/2012 8:37:05 AM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

The cancer of Obama”care” now extends to choosing a “Public health expert for the World Bank Presidency.”
_______

The major problem with THE NINE SUPREMES is that they are chosen for political reasons by the POTUS, and then they vote as an un-accountable democracy, for a Nation that is NOT a Democracy, but a REPUBLIC.

As a result, THE NINE SUPREMES commonly vote 5 to 4 on most issues. Constitutionality is seldom a consideration, and their up-coming ruling on Obama”care” will prove my point.

Now is the time to stand and deliver to address our grievances to the dictates of the Left.

Oppose the dictates of Dictator Baby-Doc Barack!

Our ONLY chance to ABOLISH Obama”care” rests with THE NINE SUPREMES, because Romney will be defeated by Obama.

IMHO, if Romney is anointed as the RNC Nominee, THE main issue in the National Election, Obama”care,” will be taken off the campaign table. Hence, Romney will not only lose, but suffer another crushing, and sadly typical, RINO defeat.

To those who want poster ideas, here are a few ideas for demonstration posters:

Obama”care” was robo-signed by Congress, and is therefore illegal.

Obama”care” was 2700 pages long, and is still being written, but not by Congress: witness the forced contraception coverage recently added by HHS Regulators.

Obama”care” has caused “The Catholic Spring.”

Obama”care” reduces competition, and therefore is illegal by the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law.

Obama”care” is designed to be a US Federal Government monopoly, with no competition.

Obama”care” also is illegal according to the US Constitution, because it violates our freedom of choice.

Will THE NINE SUPREMES notice any of these three violations? I seriously doubt it.

Impeached Bill Clinton proved that the US President is above US Federal Law, so anything that the President wants he gets, regardless of the Federal Laws that he has violated.


33 posted on 03/23/2012 8:37:05 AM PDT by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Astronaut

I will never get behind that gun grabbing socialist dressed up as a Republican.


34 posted on 03/23/2012 8:37:05 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
I agree with you.

Santorum said “If you’re going to be a little different, we might as well stay with what we have...”

The “little different” is obviously Romney, “stay with what we have” is obviously Obama.

So, yes, Santorum IS saying that he'd rather have Obama than Romney. His statement cannot be spun any other way.

Now, I am POSITIVE that Santorum doesn't really believe that. His remark was just careless. Which, unfortunately, is the sign of someone not ready for prime time.

35 posted on 03/23/2012 8:38:18 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Toespi
I pray Santorum will not by luck become president, it would be a daily carnage by media.

Yeah. Because when Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II were President, it was smooth sailing everyday for them with the MSM. They never fabricated stories to try and destroy them. Give me a break.

36 posted on 03/23/2012 8:38:18 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: detective
Servant of the Cross

Servant of the Doublecross?
37 posted on 03/23/2012 8:38:27 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: samtheman
It’s sad that the choice we have now is between Mr. Stupid and Mr. Evil......Between the Dummy and the Devil.....

.....and the Democrates and Obama are rejoicing. They'll be happy with either.

But the show is not over yet.......;)

38 posted on 03/23/2012 8:39:38 AM PDT by caww
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To: samtheman
But as usual with Santorum, he’s so poorly spoken, and such a simple tool, that it’s easy for the left (like Drudge) to twist his words.

Drudge posting "SANTORUM SNAPS......." is a bit more than twisting his words. Here's various definitions of snapThe only one that applies is this:

To suffer a physical or mental breakdown, especially while under stress:

Santorum is not an idiot.....he's just running against the Republican machine with little support. The long knives have been sharpened for anything he says. Romney/they will not be denied.

If Gingrich was in second place, trust me, we'd find out how "idiotic" his statements are. (and I'm not saying Newt or his statements ARE idiotic.)
39 posted on 03/23/2012 8:40:06 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Toespi
AP Deliberately Deceives on Santorum's Conditional Statement Comparing Romney and Obama
40 posted on 03/23/2012 8:40:08 AM PDT by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: Guenevere

The Gingrich supporters make me think that we’re like two guys trapped in a lifeboat dying of thirst. We’re both dying, but the one guy insists on continually pointing out that the other guy is dying to make himself feel better. Pretty funny if you think about it. My only response is, we’ll see how Newt does in LA.


41 posted on 03/23/2012 8:42:22 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: God'sgrrl

It still sounds to me like he said its better to have Obama than Romney.


42 posted on 03/23/2012 8:43:45 AM PDT by Skeez (O)
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To: detective
I agree that Rick Santorum is a good and moral man. I also agree that he has been attacked and lied about in an unjust fashion by the media because he is a good and moral man.

I also believe that in running for POTUS he is in way over his head, inexperienced, a neophyte who has constantly shot himself in the foot and has demonstrated that he is not ready for primetime.

As stated well elsewhere on the thread, Santorum has a knack of making himself look bad. He's often so poorly spoken, even when he's right and well meaning, he bungles it so badly that it writes the media caricature of himself and conservatives as blithering idiots.

43 posted on 03/23/2012 8:44:01 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

It’s amazing this clown ever got elected to the Senate.


44 posted on 03/23/2012 8:44:27 AM PDT by petercooper (The one difference between Obama & Romney: Obama is only half white.)
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To: samtheman

You must give him credit, he’s trying as hard as little ‘possum eating feces grin can take him to become the Walter Mondale of the Republican Party.


45 posted on 03/23/2012 8:45:01 AM PDT by BTCM (Death and destruction is the only treaty Muslims comprehend.)
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To: Astronaut; All; Jim Robinson

“Yep. Lost re-election to the Senate in his own state by a LANDSLIDE. He isn’t going to be our nominee. He isn’t going to be president. All he is doing is helping Obama. Same with Gingrich.”

I vehemently disagree. I WILL NOT VOTE FOR ROMNEY IN A GENERAL ELECTION. There is NO real difference between him an Obama. I WILL NOT unite behind someone I consider the enemy.

I’m not going to vote for Obama - NEVER. However, I want a clear cut conservative to vote FOR on the GOP side. Romney is NOT that person, and I’m not going for it.

I have voted for the GOP nominee in EVERY election since 1976....but this year I stay home or leave the ballot blank.

Until the RNC gets their heads on straight and returns to the Reagan approach...they are losing voters like myself.

Anyway, IF the GOP cannot pick a Newt, Rick, or Sarah...I won’t support them anymore. If that means Obama wins another term...then so be it. Give ME a CLEAR CUT CHOICE or be greeted with apathy.


46 posted on 03/23/2012 8:45:09 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Astronaut; onyx
Like him or not, its time to get behind Romney

You're having a problem with timing.....and with your candidate choice Romney.

How about you visit DU because you sound just like them.

47 posted on 03/23/2012 8:46:02 AM PDT by caww
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To: Astronaut
Amen Astronaut, we have to defeat Obama and while I'm not a big Romney fan, I will vote for him and pray he wins.

If for no other reason we need an “R” in the WH because there will most likely be one or two Supreme Court judge's appointed in the next 4 years. I can't believe Romney would nominate a flaming liberal and I know Obama would.

48 posted on 03/23/2012 8:46:35 AM PDT by bestrongbpositive
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To: samtheman

At this point, your vote won’t matter anyway. It will serve the purpose of forcing a Brokered Convention, which is our last option, and then it is very distant that it will wind up in our favor.

Face it, the Conservative base is nothing but a herd of Cats. It’s impossible to win when you misuse the sword you are given to fight with, as a means to commit self inflicted suicide by falling on it, in the name of “Pure Conservative Principles”.


49 posted on 03/23/2012 8:47:16 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Guenevere
No....YOU have a knack of making yourself look bad every single time you post against Santorum.


50 posted on 03/23/2012 8:48:29 AM PDT by God'sgrrl (twitter.com/Women4Santorum)
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