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McConnell: Even With GOP Majority, Health Care Repeal Tough to Pass (That True....Why?)
Rollcall ^ | March 23, 2012, 9:44 a.m. | David M. Drucker

Posted on 03/23/2012 8:38:24 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Legislation to roll back President Barack Obama’s health care law will be the first order of business next January if Republicans win the Senate this fall, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said this week in an interview with Roll Call.

But the Kentucky Republican conceded that repeal legislation would likely fail, given that even the most optimistic forecasts project the GOP to win a majority that falls well short of a filibuster-proof 60 seats. Still, if McConnell replaces Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) as Majority Leader in 2013, the Republican vowed to use every parliamentary tool at his disposal to block the implementation of the law, much of which is scheduled to take effect in 2014.

“If I’m the leader of the majority next year, the first item up will be repeal of Obamacare,” McConnell said. “We will be looking at it in every way that we can to see if we can prevent the full implementation of this monstrosity.”

With the Supreme Court scheduled to hear three days of oral arguments on the constitutionality of Obama’s signature domestic achievement beginning Monday, Senate Republicans have revived a messaging campaign that they believe has been successful in helping turn public opinion against the health care law — and keep it there. According to the RealClearPolitics.com polling average, voters favor repeal 50.7 percent to 40.7 percent.

McConnell, who filed an amicus brief in the case, declined to predict how the Supreme Court would rule. However, he said if the law’s mandate to buy insurance is upheld, it would open the door to laws forcing Americans to “eat carrots, or to quit smoking, or to lose weight.” Democrats dismiss such complaints as hyperbole and contend Americans will embrace the law once it is fully implemented and they experience all of its benefits.

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1 posted on 03/23/2012 8:38:36 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The cancer of Obama”care” now extends to choosing a “Public health expert for the World Bank Presidency.”
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The major problem with THE NINE SUPREMES is that they are chosen for political reasons by the POTUS, and then they vote as an un-accountable democracy, for a Nation that is NOT a Democracy, but a REPUBLIC.

As a result, THE NINE SUPREMES commonly vote 5 to 4 on most issues. Constitutionality is seldom a consideration, and their up-coming ruling on Obama”care” will prove my point.

Now is the time to stand and deliver to address our grievances to the dictates of the Left.

Oppose the dictates of Dictator Baby-Doc Barack!

Our ONLY chance to ABOLISH Obama”care” rests with THE NINE SUPREMES, because Romney will be defeated by Obama.

IMHO, if Romney is anointed as the RNC Nominee, THE main issue in the National Election, Obama”care,” will be taken off the campaign table. Hence, Romney will not only lose, but suffer another crushing, and sadly typical, RINO defeat.

To those who want poster ideas, here are a few ideas for demonstration posters:

Obama”care” was robo-signed by Congress, and is therefore illegal.

Obama”care” was 2700 pages long, and is still being written, but not by Congress: witness the forced contraception coverage recently added by HHS Regulators.

Obama”care” has caused “The Catholic Spring.”

Obama”care” reduces competition, and therefore is illegal by the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law.

Obama”care” is designed to be a US Federal Government monopoly, with no competition.

Obama”care” also is illegal according to the US Constitution, because it violates our freedom of choice.

Will THE NINE SUPREMES notice any of these three violations? I seriously doubt it.

Impeached Bill Clinton proved that the US President is above US Federal Law, so anything that the President wants he gets, regardless of the Federal Laws that he has violated.


2 posted on 03/23/2012 8:43:28 AM PDT by Graewoulf (( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He’s not going to need 60 R votes. He’ll get crossovers. There’s enough poll data and charred democrat incumbant bodies from 2010 that there will be crossovers.


3 posted on 03/23/2012 8:45:09 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
forecasts project the GOP to win a majority that falls well short of a filibuster-proof 60 seats. Still, if McConnell...

McConnell is an idiot. He knows ALL about 51-vote reconciliation that passed the trash in the first place. Use it!

4 posted on 03/23/2012 8:46:18 AM PDT by C210N (Mitt "Severe Etch-a-Sketch" Romney is the front-runner? Seriously??)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
the Republican vowed to use every parliamentary tool at his disposal to block the...

Right. I'll believe it when I see it that the genteel Republicans get down and dirty with the Democrats.

5 posted on 03/23/2012 8:48:36 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrats love direct democracy until it's time to vote on something. Then they scream for a judge)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well, folks, in the fall of 2009 I predicted this, saying that once in place, Obamacare would be nearly impossible to exterminate because of the 2/3s filibuster.

Now we have people on our side calling for Marco Rubio to be a veep???

We are in desperate need of conservative senators, not irrelevant vice presidents, and this is a good example of why. The higher the percentage of conservatives we have in the senate, the more difficult it will be for a so-called moderate RINO to block the repeal of something like Obamacare.

6 posted on 03/23/2012 8:48:36 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What a real solid leader Mitch is. He is already telegraphing that he isn't going to bother too hard to repeal Obamacare because it will be to difficult. A real ringing endorsement for voting GOP this year.

Senate Minority Leader Tippy Turtle

7 posted on 03/23/2012 8:49:16 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It may be tough to repeal the law but in the meantime Congress can refuse to fund it through funding measures which require less votes. Moreover, if Mitt (or any other Republican) wins the White House, can’t the President issue an executive order preventing the agencies from implementing and enforcing the law? Hopefully, the Supreme Court will strike down ObamaCare as unconstitutional before the election. If the court upholds ObamaCare then it’s clear this country’s founding documents have no more meaning in guiding our public institutions.


8 posted on 03/23/2012 8:49:56 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: C210N

There is plenty to be upset with McConnell, but his point here is to gin up support for more than 51 Pubbies in the Senate.

To state that he needs 60 is to garner more energy to replace as many Dumbocrats as possible.


9 posted on 03/23/2012 8:50:30 AM PDT by boilerfan (Hoosier born, Boilermaker educated and Wisconsin transplant - Go Scott Walker!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Repeal it you old tortoise head. If you ain’t up to the task you need to step down and give the job to someone who can get it done.


10 posted on 03/23/2012 8:53:25 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Kentucky Republican conceded that repeal legislation would likely fail, given that even the most optimistic forecasts project the GOP to win a majority that falls well short of a filibuster-proof 60 seats.

Well, that sure was a quick battle!

Congratulation on your win dimocrats!

GOP, when you see them, say hi to the Whigs for me, 'mkay?

11 posted on 03/23/2012 8:53:34 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: AtlasStalled
Moreover, if Mitt (or any other Republican) wins the White House, can’t the President issue an executive order preventing the agencies from implementing and enforcing the law?

Well, a president shouldn't be able to do that. The law is the law. But Obama has set the precedent by ordering agencies not to enforce DOMA or defend it in court. So a president Romney would have ample precedent to do just that, if he was the testicular fortitude...which is a huge if...

12 posted on 03/23/2012 8:54:12 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Put the pipe down McConnell, it’s easy to repeal. Stop funding it and as a matter of fact, they could do that right now.


13 posted on 03/23/2012 8:55:31 AM PDT by tobyhill (Fight Fire With Fire)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Especially hard when the RINOs don’t really want to repeal it...

McConnell trying to lower expectations of Congress that only has what, 8% approval now?


14 posted on 03/23/2012 8:55:56 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: C210N

“McConnell is an idiot. He knows ALL about 51-vote reconciliation that passed the trash in the first place. Use it! “

This worthless dick! Here he is announcing defeat even before he tries. I just hope, but not holding my breath, that the Senate will pick someone else to be their “leader.” Mr. No-chin McConnell is an embarrassment t us all!~


15 posted on 03/23/2012 8:57:02 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: RinaseaofDs

But, even if we win the Senate, will we have enough votes to override a veto, which Nobama will surely do.


16 posted on 03/23/2012 8:57:16 AM PDT by DallasDeb (usafa06mom)
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To: DallasDeb

“But, even if we win the Senate, will we have enough votes to override a veto, which Nobama will surely do.”

So are you throwing in the towel on the Presidential Election already? Or are you simply saying that Romney would also veto any repeal?


17 posted on 03/23/2012 8:59:45 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

No, I’m not—not consciously. Maybe that was a subconscious observation—a Freudian slip so-to-speak.


18 posted on 03/23/2012 9:08:38 AM PDT by DallasDeb (usafa06mom)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Mconnell certainly believes in the “Power of Negative Thinking’


19 posted on 03/23/2012 9:10:01 AM PDT by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Just what we need — GOP “leaders” with a defeatist attitude.


20 posted on 03/23/2012 9:10:29 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (Socon-Econ)
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To: vette6387

The main reason Nobama could win (IMHO) is by cheating.


21 posted on 03/23/2012 9:11:21 AM PDT by DallasDeb (usafa06mom)
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To: C210N
McConnell is an idiot. He knows ALL about 51-vote reconciliation that passed the trash in the first place. Use it!

Before that was done it had to get 60 votes to pass through the first time, sent to the House, passed again with amendment, then "reconciled." This is just a straight up or down repeal - there would be no reconciliation.

22 posted on 03/23/2012 9:17:06 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

True for two reasons: It’ll never get 60 votes, as explained in the article, but also because there isn’t a Presidential candidate from either party that’s going to be on the ballot who would sign it.


23 posted on 03/23/2012 9:19:50 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (The only flaw is that America doesn't recognize Cyber's omniscience. -- sergeantdave)
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To: bigbob
"Especially hard when the RINOs don’t really want to repeal it...

The best answer so far. We have to face it, big business wants the law, big medicine wants the law, and those on the dole want the law. Rino's like to be re-elected and they also like power and control. Did not conservatives get the memo?

24 posted on 03/23/2012 9:22:46 AM PDT by buckalfa (Confused and Bewildered With a Glass Half Empty)
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To: DallasDeb

“But, even if we win the Senate, will we have enough votes to override a veto, which Nobama will surely do.”

Exactly. The weird thing here is that a guy like Romney (assuming he was actually interested in governance, and not running for the WH because of his massive ego) could actually provide enough political cover for a ‘do-over’.

“Hey, this time let’s see if we can get this done without bringing totalitarianism to the American people this time.”


25 posted on 03/23/2012 9:24:17 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Not so. Like or hate McConnell, he is a shrewd and reliable vote counter. Repeal of Obamacare does not yet command 60 votes in the Senate — and may not even after 2012.


26 posted on 03/23/2012 9:36:10 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And this, my friends, is why WE NEED TO ELECT CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN SENATORS WHEREVER POSSIBLE so that when the Republicans are in the majority next January this cowardly, stupid individual who never lets an intelligent strategic though cross his mind IS NOT MADE SENATE MAJORITY LEADER by his fellow Republican Senators.

Please support the Conservative candidates for Senate. You know who they are.


27 posted on 03/23/2012 9:39:58 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: RinaseaofDs

-—He’s not going to need 60 R votes. He’ll get crossovers. There’s enough poll data and charred democrat incumbant bodies from 2010 that there will be crossovers.——

Although I have a sense of impending doom, when I try to be realistic, I come to the same conclusion. Most politicians want to survive. And Obama made it abundantly clear that Dem congressmen are cannon fodder.


28 posted on 03/23/2012 9:45:19 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Rockingham

“Not so. Like or hate McConnell, he is a shrewd and reliable vote counter. Repeal of Obamacare does not yet command 60 votes in the Senate — and may not even after 2012.”
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McConnell is anything BUT shrewd. He would be a gutless Majority Leader. NOT EVERY MEASURE IN THE SENATE requires 60 votes for closure. I’d have to research it but I think that BUDGET related legislation does NOT require 60 votes.

McConnell would have to be willing to play hardball and, from everything I’ve seen of him, he is absolutely, AT HIS CORE, unable to do that. He wants to BE NICE. We need a Republican majority in the Senate and a majority leader who is a creative thinker and who has some guts.

Being NICE is absolutely unacceptable if being nice means America continues its descent down the drain.

Let’s MAN UP and GRIZZLY MOM UP.


29 posted on 03/23/2012 9:47:53 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

This is especially true after Obama told folks across the aislerunning for Congress that there was NO MONEY AVAIALABLE. If they are paying the entire freight, they’ll most assuredly vote the way they need to in order to keep the seat.


30 posted on 03/23/2012 9:53:35 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: C210N
McConnell is an idiot. He knows ALL about 51-vote reconciliation that passed the trash in the first place. Use it!

Correct, but he may think that we don't know about it.

The man is in for a huge shock, if the pubbies win the house, senate {but not by 61} and White House, and he tries to weasel out of repealing it by crying about a filibuster.

we will pull the Senate apart, limb by limb.

31 posted on 03/23/2012 9:56:10 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
And this is a surprise?

They are prepping for the potentiality of a hail mary pass and a Romney win.

They will never get rid of it, just tweek it because they will have the purse strings, and htey have the inteligensia to make it right. Besides they can get their kids a job on K-Street pumpin' MSA's HSA's or whatever the bleep they come up with.

They will repeal nothing HHS, EPA, DOE, etc.

Again I say, the EGOP has handed us our Divorce Papers long ago and we are too stupid to move out. 11.7.12 we should start anew and leave and start "THE PARTY OF REAGAN".

I am so over this wicken of weasel, the whole damn bunch of them...

32 posted on 03/23/2012 10:14:18 AM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: House Atreides

The Senate rules are notoriously complex and opaque, and McConnell has the added handicap of keeping the GOP caucus united, reliant as it is on a handful of RINOs. Notably, conservative stalwart Tom Coburn praises the job McConnell has done as leader.


33 posted on 03/23/2012 10:18:50 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Two words for ya, Mitch....

Nuclear F—king Option


34 posted on 03/23/2012 10:45:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Rockingham

I agree that McConnell has to keep the GOP caucus united. But in a process that started gathering steam in 2010 (e.g., getting rid of Bennett in Utah and replacing him with a true conservative) and will flower big time in 2012 the GOP caucus has been moving rapidly into a more conservative makeup.
If this year we can get the following new Senators (this is a list of candidates I’m trying to support to the extent my limited finances allow):
TED CRUZ to replace the retiring Kay Bailey Hutchinson in TEXAS
JOSH MANDEL to replace Sherrod Brown in OHIO
MARK NEUMANN (instead of RINO/CINO Tommie Thompson) in WISCONSIN
RICHARD MOURDOCH to replace the RINO/CINO Richard Lugar in INDIANA
SARA STEELMAN to replace Claire McCaskill in MISSOURI
DAN STENBERG in NEBRASKA

I think all of the above are likely to be successful this year if they get nominated as the Republican candidate.

There are other possibilities also of course. For example, there is Dan Liljenquist in Utah; but he may have started too late in his effort to unseat the CINO Hatch. We’ll see how the Utah caucuses go next month. If he can keep Hatch from getting to 60% of the Caucus vote he’ll force Hatch to go to primary where there will be time to defeat Hatch.

Most of the above CONSERVATIVES will be part (along with additional moderate Republicans such as Allen of Virginia) of the changing make up of the Republican caucus in the Senate. 2013 could be very interesting.


35 posted on 03/23/2012 10:56:11 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: taildragger

Conservative 3rd Party = Victory for Democrats & Progressives

Let’s be SMART—and not STUPID/DEFEATIST! We’ve been successfully moving the Republican Party to the right; let’s keep up that winning strategy. We’re getting very close to many of our goals.


36 posted on 03/23/2012 11:02:52 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: C210N

BINGO! The law was illegally passed anyway.

I still want to see an outright repeal by a vote of House and Senate GOP majorities, and the repeal signed by president Romney (ugh! that was hard to type out... president Romney. It was year before I could type president Obama).

Yes, I am still assuming that Romney can be bought, bribed, blackmailed or pressure to sign the repeal of Obamacare.


37 posted on 03/23/2012 11:52:30 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: C210N

BINGO! The law was illegally passed anyway.

I still want to see an outright repeal by a vote of House and Senate GOP majorities, and the repeal signed by president Romney (ugh! that was hard to type out... president Romney. It was year before I could type president Obama).

Yes, I am still assuming that Romney can be bought, bribed, blackmailed or pressure to sign the repeal of Obamacare.


38 posted on 03/23/2012 11:52:47 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

IMHO...that nasty piece of so called “legislation” doesn’t go away until We the People go rip it out personally by the roots...


39 posted on 03/23/2012 11:58:31 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: USS Alaska

I live in California and the TSA can suck my, well thumb I guess.

I would DRIVE to Washington DC and protest on the steps of the Senate if that is what it takes to get them to vote a repeal of Obamacare. It doesn’t take that much time and money to drive cross country.

Political correctness is the most damaging tactic and biggest socialist victory to occur in my lifetime (born in ‘58). Obamacare would be the final nail in the coffin of liberty and the first genuine conversion of our society to hard socialism.

IT MUST BE REPEALED.

I would gladly help you rip the Senate and House limb from limb to get that overturned. Obamacare is all the chips. Obama and Pelosi and Reed knew this when they rammed it through unread late on a Saturday night.


40 posted on 03/23/2012 11:58:35 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: taildragger

I agree that we need a new conservative political party. I am more than willing to take the short term political hit giving power to the Democrats a decade or two while the party gets off the ground.

We are dead anyway with the current GOP. We need a new conservative party. The USA is dead without it.


41 posted on 03/23/2012 12:00:21 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: C210N
McConnell is an idiot. He knows ALL about 51-vote reconciliation that passed the trash in the first place. Use it!

On a repeal vote with actual consequences, there wouldn't be 40 "yes" votes from the GOP.

42 posted on 03/23/2012 12:03:17 PM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“If I’m the leader of the majority next year..."

Is that being a bit presumptuous?

If the GOP retakes the Senate, will there be a fight for the Majority Leadership or will the same tired people just assume their same tired positions?

-PJ

43 posted on 03/23/2012 12:10:15 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: House Atreides

Quite true. The GOP is moving to the right, which is leaving many old stalwarts stranded. For what its worth, my information is that the GOP grass roots in Utah are in a rebellious mood and that Hatch is in trouble.


44 posted on 03/23/2012 2:40:07 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“......we need a new conservative political party........We are dead anyway with the current GOP.....
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You are clearly not paying attention to the direction in which the GOP has been moving since 2010. If you were you wouldn’t say this. “Creating a new political party” (also know to gleeful liberal politicians as “splitting the Republican/conservative vote”—you don’t want to be one of those gleeful types do you?) would ONLY SERVE THE INTERESTS OF LIBERAL DEMOCRATS.


45 posted on 03/23/2012 2:59:12 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Political Junkie Too

“If the GOP retakes the Senate, will there be a fight for the Majority Leadership or will the same tired people just assume their same tired positions?”
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There will most definitely be a fight. I predict that McConnell will have to settle for something other than Majority Leader. He has clearly demonstrated he’s not up to the task.


46 posted on 03/23/2012 3:02:17 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: All

They don’t need 60 votes. Cloture is just a parliamentary rule and can be closed off (aka: nuclear option). If the original Obamacare bill can be passed via reconciliation, then it can get whacked via reconciliation.

If the GOP has the House, Senate and White House, (Plus the WILL TO DO IT) then they can suspend the cloture rules and reconcile. There will be a sh*t storm by the MSM and Democrats and the GOP needs to stay strong.

1. Elect more Conservatives

2. Give some heat at their town halls, letter, phone calls

3. Make it known that if the GOP fails on it’s promise, then they’re dog meat. The GOP is dead at that point.


47 posted on 03/23/2012 8:57:26 PM PDT by ak267
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To: House Atreides

What new GOP party direction? You mean the one that shoved liberal Mitt Romney down our throats? That GOP Party?

Yes, I’ve been paying attention. We have a few Tea Party freshmen and Jim Demint. They have said they won’t let Demint have any real power and they have steamrolled the Tea Party freshmen.

Yes, there are a few real conservatives in the GOP, but othewise it is lead by the same old blue blood country club asswipe RINO surrender chickens who screw us over time and again.

New GOP. Not hardly. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.


48 posted on 03/24/2012 12:04:58 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Sen. Minority (wimp) Mitch "go/get along-cocktail party" McConnell (E-RINO); really no longer
represent/understands the state of KY....only represents the Washington DC Establishments' interest.
hey, Mitch....rem. your hounddog searchin' the for Dee Huddison commercial ('84), YOUR IT NOW!

49 posted on 03/24/2012 12:32:17 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Simple: Kill the terrorists, Protect (all) the borders, ridicule all the (surviving) Liberals :^)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
same heap of dung, only different flies. :-/

50 posted on 03/24/2012 12:42:25 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Simple: Kill the terrorists, Protect (all) the borders, ridicule all the (surviving) Liberals :^)
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