Skip to comments.George Zimmerman's Father: My Son Is Not Racist, Did Not Confront Trayvon Martin
Posted on 03/23/2012 10:06:45 AM PDT by Lmo56
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I understand what you’re saying, but we’re in no position to be making inferences. Facts are what’s needed.
The facts are always relevant. The facts are that Zimmerman was armed and confident in his ability to use that firearm. Martin ran. Zimmerman pursued. Zimmerman would have pulled his gun first if he was in fear of an attack. He didn't. He played the poor victim game that he started. He instigated the attack with the pressured pursuit of Maritn that included a confrontation with an extremely inflammatory verbal assault of racial slurs. Martin was legally standing his ground, not Zimmerman. Zimmerman was simply a criminal assailant.
"Are you sure justice has any dog in this fight?"
Does a dead unarmed kid with a bag of skittles and can of pop that ran from an armed racist mall ninja wannna-be jostle loose any justice related concerns?
And I can tell you know what that means.
If you'd paid attention you'd know I am doing my own work on this using CELL PHONE CALLS which have been released by the police.
There's all the information any investigator would need to determine that Zimmerman was being evasive ~
I really don't know what the network people or the professional civil rights crazoids are saying. I don't watch that cr*p nor do I read their stuff.
Your boy doesn't come up smelling like a rose in my book BTW.
LOL, you are so full of it your hands must shake from laughing as you post.
You have such a tender, moist-eyed worry that the shooting wasn't justified? ROFL!
That's because when you read that Zimmerman was on the ground, screaming from help from the neighborhood and recorded on 911, with a bloody face and broken nose and Martin standing and still going for him... you thought... wait a minute, that doesn't QUITE sound like a situation where Zimmerman might have been afraid for his safety, or his life.
Yes, I can see your lips quiver with concern at that point, as your tender heart floods full of compassion for the scrapes Zimmerman's FACE left on Martin's hands as he beat him, and how that would make you insist on a full investigation, with your helpful imaginings of Zimmerman as a murderer, before you could be - gasp - "sure."
LOL, what a jackass you truly are.
BS. IT’s not a lie. I’ve just finished reading through your recent posts and you ARE one of the FR posters who are swarming over anyone who doesn’t think Zimmerman is guilty of murder.
Your own posts show you lean more towards Sharpton’s point of view than anything else.
You’ve been on here since 2001 and have never even posted anything in your profile. Read through your own past posting history and see what conclusion you might come too reading your comments.
Probably why you hated me using the term “Closet liberal” because it hits pretty close to home for you.
I'll bet the liberal press was salivating at the possibility of being able to bash a Jew, a white or a conservative. Or better all three in one person - AND living in a gated community to boot!
Too bad the "bad one" was Hispanic... not as hot a story... guy even has black relatives. We're getting close to black on black murder - and the MSM won't touch that with a ten foot pole...Either will Sharpton or Jackson...
Care to point out exactly what time in that audio the racial statement coon was made? I just listenend to it three times and there is no such comment made. You're really grasping at straws dude......
“The cops seemed to have done nothing with the cellphone to find out who the kid was. Maybe you have some hard info on that ~ if so, show us where it’s at.”
What in the hell is this post about, and how does it relate to anything I’ve written, or the case against Zimmerman?
I’m trying to imagine a cop helping a shooter cover up his crime, just because...and it isn’t happening. This isn’t 1960 in Mississippi...
Because he's a minor I believe it's kept sealed in Florida. Of course, some reporter could ask neighbors etc... but they won't.
You mean the one who jumped the neighborhood watch patrol and beat him to the ground merely for the vast crime of... watching... a stranger and calling the police? The one who was recorded on 911 screaming for help with his face covered with blood and his nose broken as the unarmed baby put his skittles in his diaper to free up both his hands for smashing the arrogant night watchman's head into the ground for the racist crime of... watching... him, before his STUPID THUG ASS was blown away for attacking an armed man?
Yeah, I'd say there are some justice related concerns there - like why aren't the rest of the neighbors armed so they could have come to Zimmerman's aid?
Go away shill. You're only here to trash this particular thread because Zimmerman's father's testimony is so compelling, and your race-baiting plan is threatened by it. You've already been outed as a paid typist, so go back to playing WOW in your mom's basement until your next assignment (and TRY to be a bit more logical in your attacks next time, eh? Otherwise you won't get a callback).
And I think that your a retread.
I notice your profile doesn’t say anything about you, although you do have some words posted.
I recommend that you quit using the “hanging” and “lynching” terminology. NO ONE AT THIS SITE, CONTRARY TO YOUR INFLAMMATORY COMMENTS, HAS SUGGESTED HANGING OR LYNCHING ZIMMERMAN. LIAR.
Yes, it is weird that this Zim guy is suddenly a white racist criminal, itching to murder a young innocent black kid.
All this planning while on the phone with the cops?
Where's the cellphone?
Facts are needed, but the facts released to date do not support the idea that Zimmerman hunted down and shot Martin in cold blood. If he had, the back of Z’s head would not have been bleeding.
I’m NOT saying Zimmerman is innocent. I just think the media is deliberately pushing this to get an emotional reaction over ‘racism’. Odds are, somewhere in Florida, a black guy was murdered by another black guy since this shooting. But those murders aren’t worth the media freaking out.
OH, so now the story has evolved into Zimmerman baiting the kid with filthy, racial slurs.....
Now just where did you get THAT information?.....
What's next on your speculatory list of intimidation techniques, the throwing of a noose at the kid?
Thank you for insulting me and answering my stupid question at the same time. You’re such a gentleman.
Not uncommon these days to have a cellphone ~ even two cellphones.
That would easily trick the police.
We all have bios posted here at FR ~ you can look it up. You’ve been here too long to not be aware of that.
Look at the one minute mark in the video - see a sidewalk? Or are you too busy googling addresses?
And let me say that I don’t think, at this point, that Zimmerman is guilty of murder. He may be guilty of absolutely nothing, legally, but it’s safe to say that if he’d stayed in his truck, none of this would have happened. That he must live with.
Ive come to the conclusion, no matter how this thing turns out, BOTH of these guys are PUNKS. And it doesnt have anything to do with the color of their skin.
Ive come to the conclusion, no matter how this thing turns out, BOTH of these guys are/were PUNKS. And it doesnt have anything to do with the color of their skin.
I loathe HOAs & Neighborhood Watch programs, so I’m not a fan of Zimmerman. He sounds like a Loser...but he MAY have been a loser in danger. Or not.
And yet you answered my question. I already thanked you.
I see that you have no intention of letting facts get in the way of “social justice” any more than the W0n in the White House.
This story has no legs with out smearing racist innuendo all over the facts. Political hay lacks nutrient and flavor, but if the White House can just get some race riots going, maybe they will forget that he is a community agitator, puppet for Bill Ayers.
OK. I will say that it “appears” that you have already determined that Zimmerman is guilty and you “appear” to dispute anything posted that disagrees with your preconceived conclusion that he is.
You stated to a poster on this thread that there was no proof that Zimmerman was getting his head pounded or was bleeding.
Are you spending more time disputing those who are tracking this story than you are keeping up with new developments yourself?
I suggest that you quit trying to dispute everyone who posts their opinions and links showing where they are based on just because you don’t like them disproving your verdict in this case.
I also suggest that you learn what the word LIAR means since you use it so readily when it is just your OPINION that someone is not agreed with that makes you determine someone a liar.
Now, go fluke yourself. I’ve got better things to do than waste my time on a closet liberal like you.
I'll have you know mister, I too am an expert but in discerning bullship when I read and hear it and your above comment is undeniably, unequivocally, bullship!.....LOL!
I was listening to Beck talk about it. He’s already convicted Zimmerman.
You’re unhinged .. get help
People who put much stock in what Google earth shows are those who believe everything they read on Wikipedia.
I take what they say with a very large grain of salt.
Google earth is off by 100s of feet when I check known locations. They may have it right on some things in some locations, but not accurate enough to put much stock in it.
I have it on good authority (AT http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone/iphone4s ) that you can get your basic phone for a mere $199. Then there are the aps, and wow.
Your typical ordinary neighborhood kid with indulgent parents may well be walking down the street with over $3,000 in stuff wrapped up in a cellphone.
Is that worth "taking'? Frankly, I don't know, but somebody does.
BUT that's just about the value of the cellphone. What about the pictures? Did Martin take the cellphone out of his pocket to take a picture? What did he see? Did Zimmerman take the phone to hide evidence?
If the kid had CLOUD Those photos went straight to CLOUD!
Zimmerman didn’t complain about sidewalks.
Oh I see, saying f’n coon is license for blacks to attack non-blacks. So hard, this PC stuff.
And you are a LIAR. You said, Its looking like the Al Sharpton fan club is starting to swarm to this thread now to scream for Zimmermans lynching.
I said that no one has called for Zimmerman's lynching. It's on this thread. Then you switched and started using the term "hanging." It's on this thread.
Then you decided to call me a "liberal."
WOW. You’re making some mighty big leaps there. Matrix level building jumping leaps to make your assumptions appear to be valid points.
New phones (since about 6 years ago) have GPS and APRS built into them that the 911 dispatchers can see where a phone is located. If they suspected the kids phone was missing it wouldn’t take much to find it using common technology to trace it’s location. And as you stated, if, by a while assumption, Tryvon did take any pictures, they would be on the memory chip of the phone. Probably not on the cloud. Unless they were backed up to the cloud.
You’re going to throw your back out making leaps like these.
At t~2:21-2:22. See#92.
You're absolutely correct Double Tap, on the audio provided by Spunkets, Zimmerman clearly says "F'n punks"......nowhere in that audio does Zimmerman say "COON" nor is there any racial comment made by him in the entire audio.......
Spunkets, I think you should either give up your "EXPERT" status or buy a hearing aid........
Being called a liar by a race baiting idiot is a badge of honor I’ll cherish for the rest of my days. HA HA HA HA HA
Looks like you’re the one retreading now.
Say hi to Al for me at the next meeting. I’m sure he will thank you for all you’re doing to help his cause.
Beginning at 2:18 I replayed the tape with headphones eight times.
The word for the day is PUNKS.
For Al Sharpton, it's interlopers and the Freddie's Fashion Mart riot, fire, body count.
For Al Sharpton it's Tawanna Brawley and the rape that never was, the dog waste, the judgment Sharpton owes.
Maybe the dead man was the attacker armed with the pavement.
Maybe that explains police not doing the Al Sharpton Bullhorn Boogie.
Propaganda demands nonstop race riot and "massacre in Afghanistan" to distract from The One's plummeting prospects.
He of Wright's "church" enters the fray.
Let him address the dead black men Young, Bland, Spencer first.
Unmasked at midnight at the masquerade ball.
The above video that Kristinn posted at #76 clearly shows that it is not an "upscale, gated community" as being reported throughout the MSM but rather a normal apartment complex for middle income and below residents. I'm familiar with them, I lived in one for 23 years.
And to show how contorted this whole story has become, Sean Hannity just had a black lady on his radio program giving her expected take on this sad situation. During her commentary, she even made reference to the complex as an " upscale gated community, from what she heard" showing clearly that she too was willing to accept all the crap the MSM was putting out......
My prayers go out to Mr. Zimmerman AND his family because the MSM has gone out of their way to condemn him and Sharpton and Farrakhan are calling for vigilanti justice.........
Closet liberals or just regular ones.
He did not say coon.
For one thing, does anyone under the age of 40, or 50 even know that coon is a racial slur?
This is NOT 1965.
OK, we'll overlook the rant. Now, what's your point?