Skip to comments.Why Are So Many Cool With Polygamy?
Posted on 03/23/2012 10:19:29 AM PDT by ReformationFan
Polygamy has had very little support in the U.S. since the Republican Party in 1854 declared it, along with slavery, one of the twin relics of barbarism, and Congress banned it in 1862. The Mormon church officially abandoned plural marriage in 1890.
But when the California Supreme Court ruled in 2010 in favor of homosexual marriage, one dissenting justice warned that it would not be illogical to expect that support for polygamy soon would follow.
In fact, a polygamous group in Utah just last month challenged a ban on the practice in court, and now a new WND/Wenzel Poll, conducted exclusively for WND by the public-opinion research and media consulting company Wenzel Strategies, indicates there is a surprisingly high level of support developing across the U.S.
A full 22 percent of the respondents say there is no legal justification for denying polygamy, based on the fact that legislation and judicial decisions have affirmed the validity of same-sex marriage for homosexuals.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Followed by marriage to dogs, cats, sheep and cows.
“Followed by marriage to dogs, cats, sheep and cows.”
Nope — next will be marriage between adults and children. The floodgates are open now. The combination of “multi-culturism” and redefinition of marriage will make this a terrible possiblity.
How about vegetables? Can I marry my favorite garden plants? I am especially fond of one of my bean stalks.
I couldn’t afford another wife so this is moot to me.
Maybe it’s popular because there’s something in it for everyone. The guy’s point of view is obvious. The woman’s—well she gets part of a guy, but if she’s doing it by choice rather than force, she gets to be in the household of a real stud. After all, that’s the way it works for many of our sports stars. Think of it as a “half a loaf” argument.
Ann Coulter might get her wish.
Because depravity is our nature.
Why Are So Many Cool With Polygamy?
When God’s moral code is abandoned, there is no bottom to the depths of depravity so many find ‘cool’.
Just an observation but a man who lives with five women or a woman who lives with five men or any combination or permutation one wants to consider is breaking no civil law. It seems odd to me that someone so inclined would court jail time just to get married when it’s clear that there is nothing about “marriage” they respect. I suppose it might be about civil benefits but any move in that direction would be an admission of violation of the law.
And that, in turn, is less depraved than doing what the homos do. And which I refuse to provide more details about.
Because they like to be nagged in Surround Sound
i figure if any man is dumb enough to put himself in a position to get nagged at in stereo, then he has only hisself to blame!
“harcourt fenton mudd!”
how abotu kumquats?
Is it wrong of me to be less offended by polygamy than I am by same-sex marriages? At least polygamists can procreate, oft times prolifically.
Yep. We musn’t leave out those who are “minor-attracted”. That’s the new word for it.
Polygamy only makes since in the new world order. If gays and lesbians can marry that creates an imbalance in the gender numbers which opens up the possibility of the free floaters to be added on to the family unit. And that ignores the necessity of the gay or lesbian couples needing to add on a breeder to their family unit if they want to have kids without adopting, using sperm donor or surrogate.
Sure. I hope I didn't sound like I was discriminating against anything in the fruit family. I am certainly fond of small fruit bearing trees and do consider them worthy of marriage to humans.
BIGAMY: Having one wife too many.
MONOGAMY: Same thing.
Also, multiple wives means multiple mothers-in-law.
The mere thought of a twin dose of mother-in-law like I have now is enough to make sure the marriage would never be consummated, without some duct tape and popsicle sticks that is...
Pfft, homo marriage is a tiny drop in a huge bucket called selective abortion being practiced in places around the world now.
When places start getting to 60/40 gender inequality like is happening in India and China the incredible social pressure cooker they have created for themselves is gonna blow, and it isn't going to be pretty when it does.
That's easy. They are of the opinion that it's no one else's business what consenting adults do with each other.
And, if it wasn't for the fact that governments meddle in everything nowadays, including redistributing wealth based on marriage status, I might be persuaded to agree with that sentiment.
POLYGAMY IS A HIDEOUS PRACTICE
Male teens are frequently dumped on the streets of places like Salt Lake City by polygamous Mormon sects because there aren't enough females to go around. Over 400 abandoned young men are kept by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints in one school in Salt Lake City alone. When they graduate from high school, they are unceremoniously discarded back onto the streets. You can read more about this HERE.
Perhaps worse is the fate awaiting the girls. They are taken from their homes as teens (some as young as 14 or 15) and given as wives to men in their 50's to essentially serve as breed stock in order to call home spirit babies. You can read more about this HERE and HERE.
Polygamy is an embarrassment to modern Mormonism, in part because of:
For behold, I reveal unto you a new and an everlasting covenant; and if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye damned; for no one can reject this covenant and be permitted to enter into my glory. (D&C 132:4,21)
Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord. (BoM Jacob 2:24)
Finally, it may be interesting to NOTE Bishop Mitt Romney's great-great grandfather, Parley Pratt, was a notorious polygamist with 12 wives. Pratt was eventually gunned down in Arkansas by a man angry at Parley for stealing his wife and trying to abduct his children.
I can’t even get one. What the hell would I do with two?
I want to marry my Jackass.
I have a thing for long faces....
IF a “revelation” had been given to the so-called prophet at the time, then D&C section 132 should have been removed from their canon.
That it hasn’t and is still part of mormon scripture, everything the mormon church claims about “renouncing polygamy” is suspect.
"Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time...They therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure and which insures to the good eternal happiness, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments." -- Charles Carroll, U.S. Senator and signer of the Declaration of Independence
"[D]emocracy will soon degenerate into an anarchy, such an anarchy that every man will do what is right in his own eyes and no man's life or property or reputation or liberty will be secure, and every one of these will soon mould itself into a system of subordination of all the moral virtues and intellectual abilities, all the powers of wealth, beauty, wit and science, to the wanton pleasures, the capricious will, and the execrable cruelty of one or a very few." -- John Adams, An Essay on Man's Lust for Power, 1763
Of all the dispositions and habits, which lead to political prosperity, Religion and Morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of Men and Citizens. -- George Washington
"My principle is to do whatever is right and leave the consequences to Him who has the disposal of them." -- Thomas Jefferson to George Logan, 1813
"Peace, prosperity, liberty and morals have an intimate connection." -- Thomas Jefferson to George Logan, 1813
There remains the one standard that has not yet been universally used, namely, the choosing of candidates on moral grounds. A nation always gets the kind of politicians it deserves. When our moral standards are different, our legislation will be different. As long as the decent people refuse to believe that morality must manifest itself in every sphere of human activity, including the political, they will not meet the challenge of Marxism. Contemporary history proves that modern political leaders, devoid of a moral inspiration and relying solely on a mass basis (might makes right), proves ineffectual in time of crisis." -- Fulton Sheen, COMMUNISM and the CONSCIENCE of the WEST -1948
The same as you would do with one ... retire to the nearest public house when they start to talk!
Sorry, I don't think the First Lady will share.
I knew only two in Saudi Arabia that had two or more wives. One was Saudi in their Air Force and the other was an American Muslim. The stipulation is that they cannot live in the same house and you have to provide equally for all. No wild orgies I'm afraid.
If you buy one a Mercedes you have to buy one for the other wives too.
You could always tell the men with two wives because they had double houses that were mirror images of each other. You did not see too many of these though.
Willard McBush WANTS polygamy in the afterlife. It makes him no different from practicing it NOW.
Shot in the neck in Arkansas by Hector McLean, after McLean stabbed him with a Bowie knife. That's after Pratt convinced McLean's wife, Elenor, to leave McLean and their three children in San Francisco, and to go with Pratt to Salt Lake City, where she became Pratt's 12th wife.
McLean traced her (and sometimes Pratt) to New Orleans, then Houston, then Fort Gibson, Arkansas, near Van Buren. McLean and two friends (James Cornell and Amasa Howell) caught up with Parley Pratt outside of Van Buren, near Alma, Arkansas, and killed Pratt there.
But I digress. Elenor fled to Salt Lake City to tell of Pratt's murder in Arkansas. I guess it was a murder, technically. Some historians believe vengeance against Arkansas - from whence the Fancher party hailed - was a factor in the Mountain Meadows Massacre a few months later.
Also, multiple wives means multiple mothers-in-law
not if you marry sisters...
Left that out, didn't I? I don't know that Pratt did. Elenor McLean certainly tried to get her children eventually. Elenor McLean left the children in San Francisco when she initially ran off with Pratt (I guess I should say Parley Pratt, given the prominence of both Parley Pratt and Orson Pratt in the early Mormon church). Hector McLean sent the children to relatives in New Orleans. Elenor claimed she had left Parley Pratt and Mormonism and was allowed to visit by the relatives. She took the children and Pratt joined her as they headed to Houston. Without doing some reading, I don't remember if she was still in Houston when Parley Pratt was killed, or was with Pratt in Arkansas. Perhaps the latter, because she returned to Salt Lake City immediately after Parley Pratt's death.
What is so hard for people to understand about 1MAN 1WOMAN?!?
Sorry; but that is INCORRECT.
The advertising agency that came up with the jack in Box Marry Bacon campaign are geniuses. Great timing.
because they KNOW something we don't!!
"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;
and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,
and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.
Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)
Guns (and the immunity from harm if they use them)
Ol' Joe must have been shooting blanks!!!
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
5157, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 5866, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
To Whom It May Concern:
Press dispatches having been sent for political purposes, from Salt Lake City, which have been widely published, to the effect that the Utah Commission, in their recent report to the Secretary of the Interior, allege that plural marriages are still being solemnized and that forty or more such marriages have been contracted in Utah since last June or during the past year, also that in public discourses the leaders of the Church have taught, encouraged and urged the continuance of the practice of polygamy
I, therefore, as President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, do hereby, in the most solemn manner, declare that these charges are false. We are not teaching polygamy or plural marriage, nor permitting any person to enter into its practice, and I deny that either forty or any other number of plural marriages have during that period been solemnized in our Temples or in any other place in the Territory.
One case has been reported, in which the parties allege that the marriage was performed in the Endowment House, in Salt Lake City, in the Spring of 1889, but I have not been able to learn who performed the ceremony; whatever was done in this matter was without my knowledge. In consequence of this alleged occurrence the Endowment House was, by my instructions, taken down without delay.
Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriages, which laws have been pronounced constitutional by the court of last resort, I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws, and to use my influence with the members of the Church over which I preside to have them do likewise.
There is nothing in my teachings to the Church or in those of my associates, during the time specified, which can be reasonably construed to inculcate or encourage polygamy; and when any Elder of the Church has used language which appeared to convey any such teaching, he has been promptly reproved. And I now publicly declare that my advice to the Latter-day Saints is to refrain from contracting any marriage forbidden by the law of the land.
President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
President Lorenzo Snow offered the following:
I move that, recognizing Wilford Woodruff as the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and the only man on the earth at the present time who holds the keys of the sealing ordinances, we consider him fully authorized by virtue of his position to issue the Manifesto which has been read in our hearing, and which is dated September 24th, 1890, and that as a Church in General Conference assembled, we accept his declaration concerning plural marriages as authoritative and binding.
The vote to sustain the foregoing motion was unanimous.
Salt Lake City, Utah, October 6, 1890.
35. Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection.
36. Some faced jeers and flogging, while still others were chained and put in prison.
37. They were stoned ; they were sawed in two; they were put to death by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated--
38. the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, and in caves and holes in the ground.
~ Wilford Woodruff, 4th LDS President
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