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Rick Santorum Convicts Trayvon Martin Shooter On Hannity Show
The Conservative Review Blog ^ | March 23, 2012 | Marcus Porcius

Posted on 03/23/2012 4:28:30 PM PDT by red flanker

Just moments ago on the Sean Hannity radio show, GOP candidate and RINO Rick Santorum took it upon himself to convict George Zimmerman in the Trayvon Martin case. He said, and I’m paraphrasing slightly:

It was a heinous crime and he did a despicable, unjustifiable thing and the Sanford police should have reacted to that immediately.

Again, I am paraphrasing a little as I did not have a recorder running to get his exact words, but that was essentially his statement.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: florida; foot; georgezimmerman; mouth; pennsylvania; ricksantorum; santorum; santorumtruthfile; standyourground; trayvonmartin
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To: red flanker

Santorum is over.


101 posted on 03/23/2012 10:26:08 PM PDT by GVnana (Newt 2012 - He Speaks for Us)
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To: Irenic
Or do we need instant justice or perhaps we could have trials set up like Survivor or Dancing with the Stars? Just dial in our vote by phone or however it works.

The normalization of playing judge, jury, and executioner via remote control. Exactly the purpose behind that type of... programming.

102 posted on 03/23/2012 10:32:06 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: plain talk

Rick Santorum does just converse. It’s gotten him in trouble before and it will again. He shares his unvarnished opinion.

Say what you will about the Martin case, but it is odd that they let the shooter of a teenager walk out the door.

They had no real reason to believe him.


103 posted on 03/24/2012 5:43:15 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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To: red flanker
Welcome back to Free Republic, particularly in the last few weeks and months in the election season specifically.

Question, red flanker: If for some reason, through some situation, Rick Santorum were to win the GOP nomination on the first or consecutive ballots, would you support him in the election against Obama?

104 posted on 03/24/2012 6:08:04 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Fraud: Feign support on FR for weeks FOR Newt--against RICK--then slowly "come out" for ROMNEY!)
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To: fortheDeclaration

She was a prostitute also.


105 posted on 03/24/2012 6:43:55 AM PDT by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: 22cal

A serial adulterer has a “lingering character problem” too.


106 posted on 03/24/2012 9:21:48 AM PDT by Tamar1973 ("Never care what the other guy has, it is not yours and someone always has more."--isthisnickcool)
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To: 22cal
Mary Magdalene was NOT a prostitute. That was a different Mary. The only thing the Bible says about Mary Magdalene is that Yeshua/Jesus cast out 7 demons from her (possibly on more than one occasion).

This is the only text that mentions Mary Magdalene, pre-crucifixon and there's no adultery or prostitution here.

"After this, Jesus traveled about from one town and village to another. The Twelve were with him, and also some women who had been cured of evil spirits and diseases: Mary (called Magdalene) from whom seven demons had come out—and many others. These women were helping to support them out of their own means.— Luke 8:1-3"

Some people blend Mary of Bethany with Mary Magdalene and the sinful woman of Luke 7:36-50, which causes a bit of confusion but suffice it to say that Mary Magdalene was NOT an adulteress or a prostitute or any sort of woman.

107 posted on 03/24/2012 9:29:02 AM PDT by Tamar1973 ("Never care what the other guy has, it is not yours and someone always has more."--isthisnickcool)
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To: Tamar1973

But of course you do not believe in repentance and forgiveness?


108 posted on 03/24/2012 9:36:11 AM PDT by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: 22cal

Do you believe in that for the child molester? Do you forgive to the point of letting the child molester run a day care center?!


109 posted on 03/24/2012 10:06:41 AM PDT by Tamar1973 ("Never care what the other guy has, it is not yours and someone always has more."--isthisnickcool)
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To: Tamar1973; Jim Robinson

So not only are you proven to be unforgiving, but an exaggerator coming up with a false analogy about Newt. Jim is for Newt, too.


110 posted on 03/24/2012 10:32:36 AM PDT by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: Taxman
Whole lotta people who should know better have already convicted Zimmerman. The Lamestream Media, and the race pimps may just get hung out to dry when all the facts are known.

Even the "conservatives" on John McLaughlin's show last night were doing it -- including McLaughlin himself. The guy from National Review was disgusting. I think the RiNO take is that the race-pimps have already won the information/misinformation battle, and they're thinking about cutting losses for the RiNO/GOP Romneynominee, and distancing the GOP, themselves, and Romney from Zimmermann. This is becoming a "bonfire of the vanities" (hat tip to Tom Wolfe).

111 posted on 03/24/2012 10:40:32 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: 22cal; Jim Robinson

Committing adultery twice is an exaggeration? Sin is sin, there’s no difference with God. Humans will say that child molestation is worse than adultery, to God there’s no difference. They’re both equally egregious. Both of them are death penalty offenses in Torah.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d would LOVE to see Obama debate Newt and for Newt to clean the floor with him in a debate, because Newt is an excellent student of history but that’s not the same as wanting him to be POTUS. I’m still not sure who I’ll vote for in the primary, quite frankly because none of the current contenders excite me for various reasons.

Newt doesn’t exact be because his character is very very flawed and character does matter. You can forgive someone but it doesn’t mean that the person should ever be a leader of men again.

Santorum doesn’t excite me because he is not financially conservative enough for me.

Romney doesn’t excite me because he is not socially conservative enough for me and his Romneycare bill derails any moral authority the GOP presidential candidate needs to work hard to repeal Obamacare.


112 posted on 03/24/2012 11:05:02 AM PDT by Tamar1973 ("Never care what the other guy has, it is not yours and someone always has more."--isthisnickcool)
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To: Peter Vollmer
Heartless
113 posted on 03/24/2012 11:14:21 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Tamar1973

This entire thread has been premised on the initial poster’s “paraphrase” of what he claims Santorum said. Does anyone intend to post the actual quote, in context? Until then, why has anyone commented on something that Santorum may or may not have said? The lemmings are very quick to jump over that cliff today.


114 posted on 03/24/2012 11:34:52 AM PDT by littleharbour
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To: fabian

Your parents had good taste.


115 posted on 03/24/2012 11:47:39 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Tamar1973; 22cal; CatherineofAragon; traditional1

I hope you’ll excuse me for commenting, but as an attorney I’ve actually worked with a sex offender, and had to research the matter to work the case. The fact is, most who technically classify as sex offenders have about the same tendency to relapse to criminal behavior as any other criminal behavior. I know that’s not what you’ve probably heard, but that’s the reality. In fact, many are Romeo-and-Juliet cases, where there was ordinary sexual attraction between two ordinary young people but the age of one party made it a sex crime by legal definition. One unfortunate fellow got on the registry because he got drunk and took a leak in his own backyard, but it so happened some neighborhood children saw him in the act.

However, when most people think of a “child molester,” they are thinking of one of those profoundly disturbed personalities who cannot rely on normal inhibitions to prevent their abuse of prepubescent children. Unlike the Romeo-and-Juliet situation, or the awkwardness of improvisational latrines, this is a personality defect that places them in a special high risk category, and in fact many jurisdictions are recognizing and separating these risk categories so they can be handled with greater economy and effectiveness.

How does all this relate to Newt and forgiveness? Simple. There are very few of those who live among us who are really warped enough to present an ongoing risk of child molestation. But Jesus said we were all in the risk category for adultery. Anyone who has done it in their heart (you know who you are) has done it as many times as Newt or more. The difference between those secret adulterers and Newt would be that Newt was honest enough to follow through and get the divorce.

Do you remember the parable Jesus told of the prodigal son? Remember the “good” son? He was as self-indulgent as the “bad” son, but he justified his self-indulgence by superficial compliance with the Father’s will. Yet he lacked love. And when the “bad” son, who at all times was honest about his desires, repented and came home to the Father, the Father received him with love. If the “good” son were truly “good,” he would have shared in that love and joy of a sinner coming home. But he could not. All he could think of was himself.

Now I can easily picture the “good” son lecturing the Father about how he should never again trust the “bad” son with any of the serious responsibilities of sonship. I can hear him saying things like “Dad, he’s proven he’s a bad seed, he’ll never be anything different, and you should never trust him again.” And from a strictly human, materialistic point of view, he might even be right. But see how the Father treats him, gives him a welcome home party, a sacrifice, a ring, all insignia of full redemption, full acceptance as a son, with all the privileges and responsibilities that entails.

Jesus didn’t come to save the righteous, but only sinners. And as CS Lewis says, nothing God does is a sham. Conversions, if God has anything to do with them, are real conversions. But if there is no conversion, no transition from brazen sinner to repentant son, then there is no Christianity at all. It is the very thing Jesus died to provide, the possibility of complete transformation, by an exchange of death for life, old for new, punishment for forgiveness. It is the very heart of the Gospel.

Therefore, if one looks only at the errors of the past as the sole determinant of the future of a human soul, one has denied the miracle of the new birth. Put another way, if there is no conversion, no true changing of one’s ways, then there is no Gospel, no good news at all, no basis for forgiveness, no hope in the resurrection, no looking forward to the Second Coming and the redemption of all things, because we all set our path irreversibly into the darkness on the day we committed our first sin. Like my crim law prof used to say, you buy the bit you buy the bridle. The rejection of the possibility of conversion has serious consequences, and those who choose to live in a universe with no true conversion must accept the logical consequences of that position.

For my part, it is an empirical matter. If Newt falters in some significant way, his claims of redemption can and should be held to a high standard of proof. But if Newt demonstrates by his life over a reasonable period of time that he has had a true change of heart in these things, and I think he has done this, who am I to challenge a work of God? Why would I not rather praise God and be joyful that He has brought yet another lost sheep home? Time will tell, but by his performance so far, I accept his claim of redemption, and would gladly trust him to fulfill the duties of the presidency with faithfulness to God, to the American people, and to the founding principles.


116 posted on 03/24/2012 12:00:22 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: red flanker

As if we needed another reason to say F___You Rick, and just stay home on election day.

Our “candidates” are beneath contempt.


117 posted on 03/24/2012 12:29:55 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Oztrich Boy

>> “The police acted stupidly” <<

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Yes, failing to contact Al Sharpton before looking at the evidence was a grave error.


118 posted on 03/24/2012 12:32:05 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Springfield Reformer
Well stated Springfield!!

MY COMMENT: AMEN BROTHER. True Christians should be the last people apposing Newt.

Cheers:>) EasyDoesIt

119 posted on 03/24/2012 12:34:35 PM PDT by eazdzit (Practicing islam should be TREASON? WE need a 3rd Party. NEWT/PALIN in 2012)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Eloquently stated! Thank you. And may I re-state the sentence that, for me, boils it all down:

“Therefore, if one looks only at the errors of the past as the sole determinant of the future of a human soul, one has denied the miracle of the new birth. “


120 posted on 03/24/2012 12:50:16 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Yes, the fruit in his life is what I look for also (PCA member). We cannot know the heart, but Newt seems redeemed. After all look at what John Newton and Paul and the thief on the cross did and Jesus saved them all.


121 posted on 03/24/2012 1:46:03 PM PDT by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I am back to “What if all the pundits are wrong?”

Will they backtrack and apologize for convicting Zimmerman before they had all the facts at hand?


122 posted on 03/24/2012 2:06:02 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: 22cal

Scripture never says she was a prostitute.


123 posted on 03/24/2012 4:55:10 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!-Sam Adams)
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To: manc

I agree, Santorum and every other so called “conservative” are humiliating themselves, and betraying honest prinsables by condemning this man. We know nothing, all we have is what the leftist media has been feeding us in their campaign against gun rights..

None of that info can be trusted.


124 posted on 03/24/2012 7:19:06 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: red flanker

Santorum’s Willie Horton moment.


125 posted on 03/24/2012 7:58:51 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: liberty_lvr; xzins
There are as many intolerant fascists in this place now as there are on the DUmp. March to my drummer or you're a "bleeding liberal", or you're "not conservative enough". Sad.

P R E A C H!



Where there's a shell, there's a way.

25 years ago, we had Ronald Reagan, Johnny Cash, and Bob Hope.
Today we have Obama, no cash, and no hope!

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

Or you can get raw with these strings.

How about this gamechanger from America's Got Talent (which they SHOULD have won).

And finally, this, dedicated to the one and only rdb2, whose eyes are growing dim.

Either way, the violin is sweet yet LETHAL.

Do it!

126 posted on 03/24/2012 11:40:22 PM PDT by rdb3 (If you were tried in court for being a Christian, is there enough evidence to convict you?)
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To: plain talk

Like most in Washington they think they are the kings.


127 posted on 03/25/2012 6:57:05 AM PDT by Carry me back
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To: Peter Vollmer

Yep, you only control some people with force. The lack of force in some neighborhoods now is why they live like heathens.


128 posted on 03/25/2012 7:01:35 AM PDT by Carry me back
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To: traditional1

What makes you so certain that Rick or Romney hasn’t commited adultery ? Not voting for Newt because he has been married a couple times doesn’t make a lot of sense. So you would vote for Marx over Newt because Newt repented of all sin. I’m a christian and I actually believe what the bible says about forgiveness.

Peter lied about Christ, David commited adultery, Abraham I believe lied about his wife, saying she was his sister. Moses commited murder. Get the picture, people are born in sin and God sent Jesus to deliver us. I’m not condoning sin, but if a guy has recieved that forgiveness God made available good for him and us.


129 posted on 03/25/2012 7:17:42 AM PDT by Carry me back
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To: fortheDeclaration

If you had several devils cast out of you there is a good possibility you were commiting sin. Devils don’t help you to live right.


130 posted on 03/25/2012 7:20:02 AM PDT by Carry me back
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To: Tamar1973

He didn’t cast out the devils more than once. After that she trusted Jesus.


131 posted on 03/25/2012 7:22:31 AM PDT by Carry me back
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To: Carry me back
"What makes you so certain that Rick or Romney hasn’t commited adultery?"

LOL

Why don't you be the "anonymous source" that drops that one on the State-Run-Media, like they do with ALL Conservative Candidates?

It doesn't matter that I think his personal out-of-control habits are problematic. Why do you think the bulk of American women won't vote for him, either?

Do THEY all have a holier-than-thou attitude or is it that character matters to them, and they don't trust his lack of self-control?

132 posted on 03/25/2012 7:42:55 AM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Monorprise

The first reports had me persuaded that Martin was a victim of an over-zealous cop wannabe - who should not have left his vehicle but waited for the Sanford police to investigate his reports of ‘a suspicious person’.

There are so many conflicting witness accounts and differing opinions on the character of both parties. This tragedy will be a controversy for months to come; creating more racial conflict - even though citizens of all backgrounds are only asking that the facts be forthcoming and the truth exposed.

The one fact we know - one young man is dead.


133 posted on 03/25/2012 9:12:43 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Newtrition - soul food for a starving America.)
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To: Springfield Reformer
Excellent post.



Where there's a shell, there's a way.

25 years ago, we had Ronald Reagan, Johnny Cash, and Bob Hope.
Today we have Obama, no cash, and no hope!

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

Or you can get raw with these strings.

How about this gamechanger from America's Got Talent (which they SHOULD have won).

And finally, this, dedicated to the one and only rdb2, whose eyes are growing dim.

Either way, the violin is sweet yet LETHAL.

Do it!

134 posted on 03/25/2012 10:13:27 AM PDT by rdb3 (If you were tried in court for being a Christian, is there enough evidence to convict you?)
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To: Longbow1969

Did you see Karen Santorum on Piers Morgan last night? This is a show I never watch, but stopped and watched because Anne Romney was on first. Anne said she thought the DeNiro joke was funny, but then Karen, during her interview, started laughing when Morgan asked her what she thought about Scott Brown’s joke about Santorum and protection. She said she thought it was a funny joke too. Thank goodness they both have a sense of humour. They will need it to get through this campaign.


135 posted on 03/25/2012 11:07:09 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Monorprise; Guenevere

That is your opinion. On the other hand, many people agree with Rick Santorum.


136 posted on 03/25/2012 11:10:05 AM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: Gene Eric

Newt, don’t politicize this...you’re falling in for Obama’s strategy.

Santorum, took what will be the correct outcome in the end. This kid was unarmed, being followed by an unidentified man in truck - he had a right to defend himself.


137 posted on 03/25/2012 12:10:57 PM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Gene Eric

Pompous ass is what Santorum does. The weapon was recovered with the round in the chamber fired, and the magazine full, indicating perhaps that during the struggle, the kids hand was on the gun preventing it from stripping the next round off the magazine and reloading the chamber.


138 posted on 03/25/2012 12:18:26 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Carry me back
There are many different ways to get devils in you, religion for one.(Acts 16:16-18)

Scripture never says that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute or adulteress.

Those are religious myths.

We all commit sins.

139 posted on 03/25/2012 12:34:12 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!-Sam Adams)
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To: Taxman

I have no doubts this will be used by politicians for their own purposes. I do not agree with most on this topic though. A Neighborhood Watch volunteer (who had called 911 46 times over the previous year) witnesses a 17 year old black kid walking down the road and calls 911. No crime was witnessed. The 911 operator advises Zimmerman not to follow the kid, and he does anyway. At some point Zimmerman gets out of his car and confronts the kid (at least verbally, if not brandishing a firearm). How many of you would not be very much on edge being tailed by a strange car and then confronted? It’s very possible Martin initiated the physical conflict, but it is indisputable that Zimmerman (a grown adult) followed a teenager in his car and then exited the car to confront him (Martin relayed this on the phone call to his friend). It also is completely possible that the gun was not brandished until Martin was on top of him but Zimmerman without a shadow of a doubt was acting as a vigilante, likely spooked the kid, and went looking for trouble. Well he found it, and a 17 year old innocent kid is dead now. This has nothing to do with “stand your ground”, he did the opposite of what Neighborhood Watch volunteers are supposed to do, he left his property and harrassed the kid without witnessing a crime. Again, if anybody was being followed on the street and is confronted, tell me you wouldn’t be on edge. This has nothing to do with whether the kid had been in trouble in school, he was completely innocent on this day. What a tragedy this whole thing is all the way around, and what a shame it is being used by a bunch of political whores for personal gain.


140 posted on 03/25/2012 12:46:32 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: jacknhoo; Gene Eric

Santorum is totally wrong and so are you. Santorum lost a lot of votes with this disgusting pandering.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2863602/posts?page=1

Eye Witness:Trayvon Martin attacked George Zimmerman
Fox 13 via Youtube ^ | 3-25-2012 | Fox 13


143 posted on 03/25/2012 12:55:34 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: little jeremiah

He didn’t lose any votes. The WHOLE LOT of them are pandering from conservative and Liberal politicians to conservative and Liberal show hosts to the loony news media.
Jeb Bush
Hannity
Santorum
Obama
ALL the Liberal talk show people
FOX, CNN, CBS, et al
ALL the race reverends

The correct answer SHOULD have been: “This is a case for the judicial system of Florida.” THAT IS IT. No additional comments, no editorializing, no guessing. They all blew it.


144 posted on 03/25/2012 5:08:57 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

He lost my vote. And I’ve seen others say the same. All the candidates may have said stuff they shoudln’t have but Gingrich was the least bad.


145 posted on 03/25/2012 5:15:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: sodpoodle

Sounds to me like a criminal is dead.


146 posted on 03/25/2012 8:36:16 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Stealth Ninja
Dems have known the date of the Supreme Court case for a year. This is a very obvious Wag the Dog orchestrated event to deflect attention. Starting race wars and pitting people against each other is an easy national event for them to create. Politicians and republican media should be adults and not fall for the ploy. The only comment should be it's a police matter; it's already been investigated and the police experts and witnesses all found no evidence of anything other than self-defense.

Then focus on Obamacare from every angle; hold interviews with the medical industry experts explaining the devastation already taking place; interview insurance experts, tax experts, legal experts,etc. Then do detailed bits on Corzine and his relation to Obama.

147 posted on 03/25/2012 11:14:01 PM PDT by Stealth Ninja
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To: Gene Eric; All

Does a day ever go by that Rick INSANEtorum does not let his mouth write out a check his ass can’t cover? He is the Pat Roberson of the 21st Century without the academic intellect. He would be a disaster in a race against Obama.


148 posted on 03/26/2012 8:02:08 AM PDT by no dems (I've always been crazy but that's the only thing that's kept me from going insane.)
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To: madison10

He didn’t lose any votes
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You have got to be kidding. I was seriously considering voting for Santorum until I found out that he’s as dumb as the other Rick who ran from Texas. In the Texas Primary, on May 29th, I’m voting for Newt. Now we know why Rick INSANEtorum lost his Senate seat by the biggest margin ever for an incumbent. Dude is dumb as a coal bucket.


149 posted on 03/26/2012 8:09:33 AM PDT by no dems (I've always been crazy but that's the only thing that's kept me from going insane.)
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To: templarbeat

Facts released subsequent to your post indicate that Trayvon is not as “innocent” as it first appeared.


150 posted on 03/27/2012 8:03:34 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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