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Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman
Fox Miami ^ | Friday, 23 Mar 2012 | Staff

Posted on 03/23/2012 8:56:45 PM PDT by Kazan

Edited on 03/23/2012 8:59:52 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

ORLANDO - A witness we haven't heard from before paints a much different picture than we've seen so far of what happened the night 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed.

The night of that shooting, police say there was a witness who saw it all.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; obama; trayvon; trayvonmartin; trayvonshooting; trayvonwitness; zimmerman
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To: FreedomPoster

I think he pics are fake, and there is no reason for us to take the bait.

What happened had nothing to do with race or hoodies.

Although I have always believed if you dress like a punk people will perceive you as a punk.
That’s not racism.


201 posted on 03/23/2012 11:33:53 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: funfan

Its a circus


202 posted on 03/23/2012 11:40:02 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: NoLibZone
this is what I've been reading ....that the young man was on top of Z beating him up....again, if the gun was shot while Z was on the ground looking up, the angles should be easy to determine it would seem....

anyway, this was an over zealous man with a gun and a young man who doesn't live in the area with a hood over his face....bad situation and both should have known better...

203 posted on 03/23/2012 11:41:36 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
this was an over zealous man

It may turn out you're right after more facts come in, but for right now I don't see how that can be supported. The guy's neighborhood is falling apart around him, several burglaries, thefts, and a shooting in the months preceding this incident.

Some may perceive him to simply be fed up and trying to deter further deterioration and it went bad.

204 posted on 03/23/2012 11:44:56 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: AlmaKing
Zimmerman got his a** in a bind that he himself created and killed a kid. I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes.

Of course not. The lynching has already been decided. Maybe you should check your own presumptions of guilt. It screams out.
205 posted on 03/23/2012 11:46:21 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: FreedomPoster

206 posted on 03/23/2012 11:51:22 PM PDT by Krankor (eenie meenie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak.)
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To: JoeDetweiler

From what I’ve read of Martin’s gf’s report of what she overheard on the phone...

Martin asked Zimmerman why he was following him,

then Zimmerman asked Martin what he was doing here.

This was followed by sounds indicating a scuffle had begun.

“The girl said Trayvon must have been pushed because his headset fell off and the phone call ended.”

We could speculate on which fellow’s disposition might have led him to initiate a conflict at that point.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-trayvon-martin-girlfriend-speaks-details-20120320,0,1939033.story


207 posted on 03/23/2012 11:55:53 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: Kazan; GeronL

I wondered why he would have pulled his gun on an unarmed kid.

Now this sheds new light on the picture.


208 posted on 03/23/2012 11:56:22 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: NoLibZone

Do you really think it would be good for Zero to be POTUS over pre-election riots and violence in the streets ?

I would think lawlessness would wake the sleeping giant of apathetic voters.


209 posted on 03/23/2012 11:57:36 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: cherry
anyway, this was an over zealous man with a gun and a young man who doesn't live in the area with a hood over his face....bad situation and both should have known better...

AND There is NO racism!!

I think the implied racism is sick!

210 posted on 03/23/2012 11:58:07 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Krankor

Stop posting recent photos! You’re messing up their whole thing they’re trying to do! Man!


211 posted on 03/23/2012 11:58:10 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: Kazan

From the beginning this was going the way of the Duke lacrosse case. Screw the lack of evidence, full speed ahead to lynch George Zimmerman.

Unfortunately this has gone too far to quell the idiotic masses but should the evidence pan out and CONTINUE to support Zimmerman’s side of the story I hope the grand jury decides to no bill this.


212 posted on 03/23/2012 11:58:20 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The Democrat Ku Klux Klan is alive and well under the banner diversity and tolerance)
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To: sargon
The headline implies that Martin initiated the assault, but the content of the article does not say that.

That was my conclusion also, after reading the article, and viewing the video, such as it is.

The key question from a legal point of view is, who initiated the violence? The title seems to promise an answer to that question, but the article fails to deliver. All it says is that Zimmerman was getting pounded, there was a bang, and Martin was dead. But we already knew that.

If a jury finds that Zimmerman initiated the violence, he's toast. On the other hand, if they exchanged insults, and Zimmerman was retreating back to his truck, and Martin pursued him and attacked him, then it's a good shoot. The article does not provide enough information to choose between those two accounts.

If Zimmerman had followed police advice, this never would have happened. So, at the macro level, Zimmerman is still the responsible party. You have an absolute right to go buy Skittles and bring them back to watch the game without being stalked by the neighborhood nazi.

213 posted on 03/24/2012 12:03:25 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: 101stAirborneVet
He was suspended form school for 10 days! We're talking 10 days and it wasn't for tardiness.
Still, Trayvon had nonviolent behavioral issues in school, and on the day he was killed, he had been suspended for 10 days from Dr. Michael M. Krop Senior High School in North Miami-Dade.
“He was not suspended for something dealing with violence or anything like that. It wasn’t a crime he committed, but he was in an unauthorized area [on school property],” Martin said, declining to offer more details.

He was suspended for being in an unauthorized area on school property Huh? Inside a vending machine? The women's rest room? If the father father won't talk about it, something's rotten.
214 posted on 03/24/2012 12:04:55 AM PDT by Krankor (eenie meenie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak.)
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To: cynwoody

The bottom line is this has nothing to with race.


215 posted on 03/24/2012 12:12:35 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Krankor

North Miami Dade is 200+ miles from Sanford, Fl. So he got suspended from high school and then travelled up to Sanford, Fl. ?


216 posted on 03/24/2012 12:14:28 AM PDT by neverbluffer
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To: cynwoody
neighborhood nazi.

You have no justification whatsoever for calling him that. It is irresponsible.

217 posted on 03/24/2012 12:15:16 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: cynwoody

The way I see it is that Trayvon is dead, Zimmerman will get manslaughter and I get blamed.

Hardly seems win win.


218 posted on 03/24/2012 12:19:44 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TLI

They never accept facts. They believe in fairy dust and hope-n-change.


219 posted on 03/24/2012 12:22:12 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Kellis91789

I think he thinks it would be better to divide the nation based on race and have riots as we enter the election season.


220 posted on 03/24/2012 12:23:34 AM PDT by NoLibZone (When will Obama call Trayvon's mom? He was quick to call Sandra Fluke.)
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To: FreedomPoster

I understand they are from his scrubbed facebook page, but I could be wrong.

Nonetheless, the pics look like him, same chin, looks like his dad and all.

I got to ask myself why do they keep running pictures of a child...I mean a child for Christ’s sake.

Perhaps because recent photos of him reveal him to be a thug.


221 posted on 03/24/2012 12:23:34 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Right on girl.. as you stated.


222 posted on 03/24/2012 12:24:07 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: kanawa

I don’t think I’m going to be listening to him anymore.

I turned off his show in utter disgust today as well as yesterday.

Glenn Beck is about to get the same, altough he didn’t go quite as far as Hannity, but came close.


223 posted on 03/24/2012 12:25:31 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: TexasSecede79366

You have that right.


224 posted on 03/24/2012 12:26:05 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: neverbluffer

His father apparently took him there to get him away from a “bad crowd”. That’s where the father’s girlfriend lived, as well. Obviously, the reason the kid got suspended is a big deal- otherwise the father wouldn’t be trying to gloss over it and hide it. It sounds like a good kid getting in with a bad crowd. And I’m guessing the kid was guilty of several infractions over time, before he was suspended. The school and the father are gonna do their best to cover up whatever problems the kid was having.


225 posted on 03/24/2012 12:27:44 AM PDT by Krankor (eenie meenie, chili beanie, the spirits are about to speak.)
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To: VanDeKoik

You owe me a keyboard.


226 posted on 03/24/2012 12:28:14 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: Morgana

Not that this will matter to anyone.... I just hope the Grand Jury and others recognize it.


227 posted on 03/24/2012 12:40:52 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: kanawa
You have no justification whatsoever for calling him that. It is irresponsible.

Irresponsible? No justification whatsoever? GFU!

I just visualized myself in Martin's place. And that's how I would have viewed Zimmerman. Why is this weirdo menacing me? What does he want?

This didn't have to happen.

We shouldn't repeal the 2nd. But neither should we tolerate neighborhood nazis!

228 posted on 03/24/2012 12:45:10 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: mylife
I pray the hotheads can be appeased with reason.

A singularly infelicitous turn of phrase.

229 posted on 03/24/2012 12:53:39 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: LadyPilgrim

Ping


230 posted on 03/24/2012 12:55:11 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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To: dr_lew

I genuine quandary.


231 posted on 03/24/2012 12:55:32 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: EyeGuy

I think they usually use their first names because they are more unique than their last names.


232 posted on 03/24/2012 1:12:47 AM PDT by Usually_Disappointed (I think the tree of liberty is getting thirsty...)
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To: tumblindice

Maybe someone should start posting pictures of Zimmerman when he was 12 to equal things out.


234 posted on 03/24/2012 2:54:14 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: PA Engineer
Just like the Duke Lacrosse team. The blacks charged into town and would have lynched those boys without a trial if they could have. We all know how that turned out.
235 posted on 03/24/2012 3:09:28 AM PDT by MagnoliaB
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To: CrappieLuck

“I see Rodney King style riots across this country VERY soon.”

If that happened Gingrich would beat Obama in Illinois; as the election nears, it doesn’t bode well for Obama to have things like “black unrest” in the news. There are not enough blacks (and at that point no sympathetic whites) to re-elect him; angry blacks make white libs vote “fascist”.


236 posted on 03/24/2012 3:19:33 AM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Kazan
The only “facts” relevant in this is the “victim” was Negro and the perp appears Caucasian.
237 posted on 03/24/2012 3:46:56 AM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Kazan

Facts?
We don’t need no stinking facts.
Zimmerman is obviously a racist like all white folk.
Oh,that’s tight, he’s hispanic.
Wellll, with a name like that I bet he’s a relative of Bob Dylan.


238 posted on 03/24/2012 3:47:44 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: cynwoody

Was told by another FRper that this took place in what is called a “gated community” and was told by his late father that when you visit anyone in such a community to have respect for the security guards.


239 posted on 03/24/2012 3:49:06 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: cynwoody

“If Zimmerman had followed police advice, this never would have happened. So, at the macro level, Zimmerman is still the responsible party.”

You’re exactly right. People who are committed to bettering their neighborhood in a Watch Program are the perps.

“You have an absolute right to go buy Skittles and bring them back to watch the game without being stalked by the neighborhood nazi.”

Awww, what is the Nazi rule? Do you have a right to case a neighborhood and beat the hell out of the Watch. You assume skittles, I assume cracked out thief.


240 posted on 03/24/2012 3:51:20 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: cynwoody

So in other words, Mr. Zimmerman was a security guard?


241 posted on 03/24/2012 3:52:12 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Kazan

Why do the words, “TAWANA BRAWLEY” keep coming to mind?


242 posted on 03/24/2012 3:52:12 AM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: Kazan
WELL LOOKIE HERE....LET'S SEE IF THE AL SHARPTON/BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA (mmm mmm mmm)/JESSE JACKSON butt-kissing national and most of Florida's local media report THIS story!
244 posted on 03/24/2012 3:55:15 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: NoLibZone

Can you give a source for those lower photos w Trayvon dressed up hoodie-thug style with that thug style smirk pose?


245 posted on 03/24/2012 3:56:21 AM PDT by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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To: Krankor

“It wasn’t a crime he committed, but he was in an unauthorized area [on school property],” Martin said, declining to offer more details.”

LOL, because they don’t report students for crime unless it is a severe assualt. This kid is likely a thief based on that evidence and he probable casing of the neighborhood.

Problem is he didn’t like getting interrupted and decided to attack a guy that has a legal permit to carry a gun. If he would have just hit the guy and left, he’d be back thieving again. Unfortunate, for him.

Unfortunate for Zimmerman, he will get caught up in the Democrat Machine Whirlpool of activating their base for the elections.


246 posted on 03/24/2012 3:58:03 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: mylife; SoothingDave

Hey, maybe we should shut this witness up, since we all know Zimmerman is GUILTY.


247 posted on 03/24/2012 3:58:33 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Joe Boucher
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7177/7010634129_4199915da6_m.jpg

248 posted on 03/24/2012 4:00:40 AM PDT by wolficatZ (:"TV is king, you're my everything..")
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To: 101stAirborneVet
Stop posting recent photos!

It's also interesting to note that the MSM has not obtained any photos of Zimmerman that would have been taken at the police station the night he was booked.......They of course would add credence to the fact that Zimmerman was indeed attacked by the kid.

249 posted on 03/24/2012 4:09:44 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No matter what you post here, someone's going to get pissed off......)
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To: Magnolia
I am somewhat confused. The article says the witness “saw it all” but does not say he saw Trayvon attack Zimmerman, only a red shirt on the bottom.

Neither “side” (for lack of a better word) is doing anyone any good. We need facts. The title, “Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman” without offering anything to back up that statement is just as bad Rev Al whoring it.

250 posted on 03/24/2012 4:13:54 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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