Skip to comments.Witness: Martin attacked Zimmerman
Posted on 03/23/2012 8:56:45 PM PDT by KazanEdited on 03/23/2012 8:59:52 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
ORLANDO - A witness we haven't heard from before paints a much different picture than we've seen so far of what happened the night 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was shot and killed.
The night of that shooting, police say there was a witness who saw it all.
(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxtampabay.com ...
If there'd been a half dozen witnesses we'd probably have a better picture of the whole thing but we didn't and we don't.
If Zimmerman is laying on the ground getting his ass beat I guess at some point Trayvon attacked him.
Been a long time since we had one of those debates ~ BTW, Zimmerman's mother is from Peru. His father is retired military. They used to live in Manassas Virginia.
You’re right about the media - they’re totally biased and not above lying for ‘their side’.
That said, CBS News last night had a few seconds of ‘giving both sides’. They interviewed a man at the complex where this happened who was also in crime watch. They allowed him to speak - and he backed Zimmerman.
It was strange to see a news organization attempt to present the ‘news’ rather than ‘manage’ it for the benefit of elite liberals.
Here’s a link to an example of the 99.99% of ‘journalists’ who are biased, creepy propagandist. The two in the video are elitist who don’t know a conservative is in the room taping them. New York Times connected jerks:
Again he puts his nose into something he should not, as the bastard doesn't have all the facts.
You, my man, just made an OUTSTANDING post!!!
“The part the puppeteers haven’t counted on, imho, is the longer-term psychological backlash from this if/when Zimmerman is found to have acted in self-defense.
Perhaps not resulting in immediate actions, but pushing the overwhelming majority in this nation right up in the batter’s box of bellowing a resounding NO to any further attempts by the entitlement crowd to count on and use ‘white guilt’ as a rationale for indiscriminate mau-mau lawlessness.
Factor in the boy that was doused with gas recently and set afire for being white, that poor eldery couple in OK barbarically assaulted (w/wife killed) earlier this week, and any of a dozen other atrocities occuring with senseless frequency, and the race war that some of the anarchic voices seem to be egging won’t be turning out to their satisfaction.
This nation has bent over backwards for 60+ years in a fruitless and hideously expensive attempt to make amends for wrongs of the past, and has had nothing but increasing and endless hatred heaped on our collective heads.
Enough is Enough.
I’m sure you’re right on that one. But it will make a big difference I think.
It is interesting there are even leftist FReepers isn’t it?
Sure, we all do. We are past that now. IT DID HAPPEN. Now we have the “law” to decide any guilt. The evidence (and the law) overwhelmingly tells us that Zimmerman acted in self defense. 99% of the media and public think Zimmerman is guilty of murder. They are WRONG! They want him lynched.
I can only hope that the law in this case prevails, and the people administering it don't fall victim to the pressure to arrest, then convict, then kill Zimmerman.
Pray for George Zimmerman. It's too late to pray for Martin.
obama did not “act stupidly”;he knows his supporters and he is inflaming their anger and ignorance.The accusations will be front-page but the exoneration will be buried in the least-read section of the papers and mentioned very briefly on the television,accompanied with a disbelieving head-shake by the overpaid newsreader.
And the story won’t be Zimmerman found innocent,but “Grand Jury Refuse to Indict Killer”.This will be technically true,since regardless of his innocence or guilt,Mr. Zimmerman is the killer. The question of justification will be ridiculed or ignored by the gun-hating media and politicians.
As a bonus,Jeb Bush ha revealed himself not to be worthy of a conservative’s vote.But then none of the Bushes ever were conservative.
That’s a very good outline and explanation concerning self-defense.
This incident gets more curious as each day goes by. Why does the Obama Campaign think race riots during an election year would be to their advantage? Obama already has a lock on the black vote and nothing could change that, but race riots could cause white and Hispanic voters to turn away from Obama in November, and Chicago mob led political campaigns seldom make mistakes like that.
So, shortly after the Grand Jury meets on April 10, Zimmerman is found guiltless, the Sanford Police Department is determined not to be a bunch of incompetent racists, Obama and Zimmerman meet in the Rose Garden for a beer, the MSM blames the incident on Conservative Republicans attempting to besmirch and denigrate the Hispanic Community, and Obamas poll numbers go through the roof.
Liberals, Socialists, Communists, and other assorted criminals are so predictable.
How about a joint venture between Etch-A-Sketch and Skittles where they throw a contest of the best Skittles drawing on an Etch-A-Sketch for a grand prize of some sort?
reminds me of the BS Clinton used in the south, “I don’t feel noways tired” to get a response.
Here’s some more!!!
That's just it...you "guess".
In my sixty plus years I've seen plenty of fights where the guy who started it got his ass kicked...happens all the time.
Here's a link to a whole bunch of them...
Since there is no racist uttering on the tape (he said effin punk not effin coon) there is no "hate" crime so the feds have no jurisdiction.
By law he should skate, based on what is known at this point.
But, he is f***ed no matter what. He will always be the guy who killed that kid. He will spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder.
There are no released LEO transcripts, witness statements or 911 tapes that say anything about Zimmerman returning to his truck or about Martin jumping him.
If you have access to any that do say that Martin jumped Zimmerman then please link to them...
Leftists have a tendency to infiltrate and subvert.
Original complete video here (upper left corner)
So what do we have here? Phony witnesses popping up now to counter one of the real witnesses to discredit the truth? Sounds like Chicago style thuggery to me. I wonder who could be at the bottom of this?
They have been pulled because they are picture of Trayvon Martin who is a MS student in Chicago - a fact which is clearly stated on the FB page.
It is very easy to find Tryvon Slimm Martin's FB page...here it is...
Of course there will be freepers who will swear that it has been doctored to erase his real thug persona --- because, you know, he was a black kid in a hoodie.
I love it.
Checked with the New York Post site to see if they were up to speed,,,,,,all reports/articles reflecting Negro Community Cultural Reporting. Facts may never see the light in Northeast any more than the Jena Six did.
I hope Pam Bondi the FL. Attorney General and Gov. Rick Scott don’t take this lying down and fight back the feds trying to stick their nose in this.
see post 328.
thanks for the link
Lots of black teens being killed by black teens - black on black crime is out of control - but of no interest to the MSM because it doesn’t gin up the black vote. What rage is there to milk from the slaughters that go on in black communities every day?
Really - check this out - it’s how the elite MSM ONLY works for dems.
The journalists in the video are elitist who dont know a conservative is in the room taping them. New York Times connected:
Yeah I know the enemy comes here under the guise of being “one of us” but I would never refer to them as FReepers liberal or not; I just consider them the enemy. I sincerely doubt there are actual FReepers who are here for normal reasons and are in fact liberal.
Well those protesting now certainly don't...no matter what their color. And this includes Labamba and the politicians speaking out...along with the press.
I tend to think many of those protesting are the "regulars" seen and heard who love to gather for any reason. Most don't know what they are there for as we noted with OWS gathering....and college students will gather for any reason!!
Thanks for the link
Do what I did, keep an open mind and research FR threads for info.
Way to many FReepers are buying into the MSM and lefty meme that this kid was shot out of hand.
Let's assume that Zimmerman asked the kid what he was doing in the area or made several smart remarks to the kid, we will never know, but just say he did. Did that give Martin the right to jump on Zimmerman and try beating him to a pulp? Nope, Zimmerman had every right to shoot the kid after he started pounding on Zimmerman.
The cops think so, which is why he hasn't been charged yet.
Well that video (undercover) was interesting. The guy sounds like a liberal mindset as well. And these people influence happenings around our nation. The enemy is in the house!
I thought I read Zimmermans father is also a retired magistrate judge?
Then why do you insist on finding Zimmer guilty since you admit you don’t know the facts?
But as they say, every black cloud has a silver lining. We can now safely abolish the court and trial by jury system and use that money some other place because they are no longer needed. We now have wise men and women on this forum, the mainstream media, professional race agiators,to decide what is lawful and what is not. And while we are at it, let's abolish the police and law system because we now have the above mentioned sages to maks such decisions for us.
Yep, and I imagine all the OWS will be a large part of the action along with the Commies and all other hateful groups who should all leave the country IMO.
You'd think people would have a life to live rather than be the MAmbi robots, ready and willing to rise when he says jump.
This will surely distract from the peril this country is in and Bambi will somehow be the "hero" once again.
Someday the black community will realizze they are simply like the Palestinians....there when you need to make a fuss about nothing.
Fortunately there are some black people who are equally tired of this bullcrap...I'm fortunate to know a few. Even they say it's impossible to talk to the community as a whole because there life is about staying on the government dole.
That confirms Zimmerman's version of the story and is, likely, why police didn't arrest him.
If a jury finds that Zimmerman initiated the violence
Zimmerman is presumed innocent, though, and it doesn't appear it can be proven that he did.
Self-defense on the part of Martin doesn't give him the right to beat Zimmerman into a coma. At some point, Zimmerman had the right to save his own life even if he initiated the conflict.
If the witness's testimony holds, it will be very difficult to get a conviction. That, unfortunately, probably won't stop any riots that occur afterward thanks the the racial tension Obama and Democrats are stirring up.
Well, at least he’s no relation of Bush!/s;)
Nope. John just said that he saw Zimmerman losing the fight. Not how the fight started.
All the released documents are out there to be read. I read them.
If you read an actual transcript of anyone's statement that says they witnessed Martin attack Zimmerman then please post it.
Nope, the police stated that there was not enough evidence to get an indictment...not that they believed that Martin attacked Zimmerman. There's a big difference....just ask OJ.