The kid was unarmed. He was not attacking Zimmerman or threatening his property. Zimmerman was a hot dog cop-wannabe who never should have had a firearm.
I support the Second Amendment and the right to carry and the castle doctrine, but defending Zimmerman is wrong. Just let it play out in the courts, let justice proceed and STOP DEFENDING THIS GUY. He’s a threat to US and the Second Amendment through his apparently irresponsible behavior.
He was not attacking Zimmerman or threatening his property....Read the police report. Why was Z treated for head wounds, front and back?
“He was not attacking Zimmerman or threatening his property.”
Try the police report - Mr. Zimmerman had injuries to his face and the back of his head from being beaten up on the ground.
As has been reported elsewhere, Zimmerman is no stranger to the court system.
2005-CF-009525-A-O ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL
Closed CR-RESISTING OFFICER WITH VIOLENCE
BATTERY ON LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER
2005-MM-010436-A-O ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE MICHAEL
Closed CR-RESISTING OFFICER WITHOUT VIOLENCE
2005-DR-012980-O ZUAZO, VERONICA vs. ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE M 08/09/2005
Closed - SRS
2005-DR-013069-O ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE M vs. ZUAZO, VERONICA A 08/10/2005
Closed - SRS
Trayvon Martin was reported to be an A/B student and had no record.
He did not stop following Trayvon when requested to do so. Zimmerman was following Trayvon in his truck. Zimmerman with a gun and a history of an overabundance of 911 calls. Zimmerman seems to have been a train wreck waiting to happen.
A grown man (with a gun) following a 17 year old in a pickup truck. Who would not be spooked? We just do not know enough to make any judgments about what happened that night Let the facts come out.
Bangin on your drums, are you?
That was possibly the most insane, racialist load of spew I have seen on FR. Go stand with the rest of the Panthers.
You are as ignorant and irresponsible as Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and everyone else who is jumping to conclusions.
You know NOTHING, except to make assumptions based on what "you heard".
You have ZERO facts, yet presume guilt on one party over the other.
Neither party is at fault until we know all the facts.
Stop thinking like a liberal.
Is this your sworn eye witness testimony?
You,obviously were there and saw what happened, so why haven't I read your sworn testimony?
Oh , this is just another opinion interspersed within your other ignorant opinions.
You have no real knowledge of the facts and yet feel free to condemn Zimmerman, saying he never should have had a gun, and we shouldn't defend him and he is a threat to the world and on and on and on goes your ignorant opinion spewing.
You are not only ANGRY, YOU ARE STUCK ON STUPID.
Just let it play out in the courts, let justice proceed and STOP CONVICTING THIS GUY
There, fixed it.......
You are leaping and bounding to all kinds of conclusions. We have enough facts - not dependent on Zimmerman's word - to have some understanding about his state of mind and his actions.
When the operator suggested that "we don't need you to (follow)" Zimmerman said "okay" and clearly stopped following. He remained on the phone for nearly two more minutes, during which he said he could no longer see Martin and did not know where "this kid" was. He nervously declined to give his own address in case Martin was still nearby and could overhear.
If Zimmerman wanted a confrontation, why wouldn't he just roll down his window and confront Martin when he first spotted him? Why wouldn't he yell, "Get back here, you punk!"? Because he didn't do those things.
You say Martin "was not attacking Zimmerman," but we don't actually know who started the fight. We do know, by the account offered by Martin's girlfriend (who has no motive to make Zimmerman look better,) that Martin started the conversation. And we know from multiple witness accounts that it somehow turned into a fistfight. We also know that Zimmerman asked for help - yelled for it - before firing that shot.
I honestly don't understand why so many seem to buy into the characterization of Zimmerman as some kind of vigilante, when everything we know about that night says that he was not.
I support the Second Amendment and the right to carry and the castle doctrine, but defending Zimmerman is wrong. Just let it play out in the courts, let justice proceed and STOP DEFENDING THIS GUY. Hes a threat to US and the Second Amendment through his apparently irresponsible behavior.
When did being a watchful neighbor become "irresponsible," much less a terrible threat to the nation?
He may have showed poor judgment trying to spot Martin again to report his location to the cops, but I could see myself doing that. And Martin showed poor judgment deciding to confront the guy he thought was following him instead of just going home - but I could see myself doing that, too.
I can put myself in either one of their shoes and see myself doing the exact same things they did - up to a point. It is a terrible human tragedy that they both chose not to simply explain to each other who they were and why they were there.
It is entirely possible to believe Zimmerman is not a criminal, but still believe Martin was an innocent victim. It is also possible to believe that Zimmerman may have committed a crime, but that there is no evidence to prove it. That's not "defending this guy," it's seeking the truth, and hoping for justice - even if justice means no charges are filed.
But I am afraid that too many people, who have neither the facts, nor the inclination to learn the facts, have already politicized and publicized this to the point where there is no doubt in my mind that Zimmerman is going to end up in jail.
Witnesses said Martin attacked Zimmerman, even broke his nose. At some point Zimmerman acted, but if he didn’t would Martin have beaten Zimmerman to death? He appeared to be well on the way to it.