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In Trayvon Martin shooting, background of George Zimmerman can confound, confuse (expelled from CC)
Tampa Bay - St. Petersburg Times ^ | March 24, 2012

Posted on 03/24/2012 5:31:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

..."[George] Zimmerman's life was not without difficulties. In 2001, when he was 17 or 18, he was the victim of a minor criminal assault, said Manassas police Sgt. Eddie Rivera. The city's computer records do not provide details of the crime.

In school, Zimmerman hinted at ambitions in the business world. He joined a Future Business Leaders of America club. And in his senior yearbook, he wrote: "I'm going to Florida to work with my godfather who just bought a $1 million business."

In Sanford, Zimmerman shifted his plans, with hopes of becoming a law enforcement officer. NPR reported that he had taken a 14-week class at the Seminole County Sheriff's Office, and he was enrolled at Seminole State College until the school kicked him out this week, citing safety concerns.

He became the self-appointed protector of the streets around his home, although his neighborhood watch organization was not officially registered. Over the past eight years, he called the Police Department at least 46 times with reports of various sightings. In 2005, according to police records obtained by the Orlando Sentinel and other media, Zimmerman was twice accused of either criminal misconduct or violence. He had a concealed-weapon permit and had a black Kel-Tec semi­automatic handgun and a holster the night Martin died.....

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To: scooby321

Yep, after the uproar over the shooting, the CC said they couldn’t assure his or other students’ safety with him attending.


51 posted on 03/24/2012 7:05:34 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Mustangman

“Trayvon was a completely innocent kid.” - Not!

Google and FreeRepublic.com are your friends, and had you relied on them, ‘specially FR, you would have known Tray-whatever had been kicked out of school, was on the way to his father’s home for a father/son talk about his behavior, and you would have seen the facebook pics of the deceased in his ‘gangsta mode’.

I am sorry for his parents, because they probably tried to raise his so that he turned out different. But, the ‘black culture’/’gangsta culture’ claimed another victim.

Junior GangstaBoy deserves little sympathy, IMHO. He brought his own death upon himself by attacking Zimmerman and got even more than “Epic Beard Man” gave his attacker.

The parents do have my sympathy.


52 posted on 03/24/2012 7:06:40 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: All

Since there seems to be a lot of speculating going on, I wonder if Martin had a wallet on him? Does the 7/11 have surveillance cameras? Did he pay for the Skittles? Just wondering if there might be a reason he felt compelled to beat down Zimmerman.


53 posted on 03/24/2012 7:08:17 AM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: chainsaw; aruanan

The autopsy report should have a height and weight?


54 posted on 03/24/2012 7:08:53 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: JudgemAll
With Jeb Bush attacking the castle law

When did that happen? When he was gov or since this happened?

55 posted on 03/24/2012 7:10:58 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I was thinking that too. Plus marks on his knuckles. I asked on another thread if that would be a matter of public record. I would think the “impartial” media would be lining up the FOIA requests....


56 posted on 03/24/2012 7:11:30 AM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

CBS is reporting the “racial” tension is between the community and the police. I guess the media is scrambling to rewrite their story since Mr Zimmerman does not particularly look German. Tsk.


57 posted on 03/24/2012 7:14:44 AM PDT by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Mustangman

I doubt seriously if Zimmerman followed the youth because he was black.

Have you not read any of the stories about the demographics of that neighborhood?

A large percentage of the residents were black. There had to be something more than that.

Beware of condemning anyone to death simply based on the fact that you consider them an idiot.

You might be next.

They’ve already tried to portry Zimmerman as a zealot making 40 phone calls to the police. That amounted to about 4 to 5 phone calls a year. It was not clarified that this was over a period of several years.


58 posted on 03/24/2012 7:15:42 AM PDT by altura
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This incident gets more curious as each day goes by. Why does the Obama Campaign think race riots during an election year would be to their advantage? Obama already has a lock on the black vote and nothing could change that, but race riots could cause white and Hispanic voters to turn away from Obama in November, and Chicago mob led political campaigns seldom make mistakes like that.

Soooo, shortly after the Grand Jury meets on April 10, Zimmerman is found guiltless, the Sanford Police Department is determined not to be a bunch of incompetent racists, Obama and Zimmerman meet in the Rose Garden for a beer, the MSM blames the whole incident on Conservative Republicans attempting to besmirch and denigrate the Hispanic Community, and Obama’s poll numbers go through the roof.

Liberals, Socialists, Communists, and other assorted criminals are so predictable.


59 posted on 03/24/2012 7:17:10 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: anglian

That’s baloney.


60 posted on 03/24/2012 7:17:44 AM PDT by altura
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Free speech or not, your comparison is ugly and inaccurate and only adds to the trial by lynch mob mentality and character assault being stirred up and fomented by the media.


61 posted on 03/24/2012 7:19:09 AM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

George Zimmerman shot a MAN (despite the baby pictures presented by the eneMedia) who was on top of him and pummelling his face.

Jared Lee Loughner posted violent anarchist messages on a website and plotted/executed a domestic terrorist attack that resulted in several deaths which included a child and a conservative judge.

Dang, you’re right! The similarities are stunning!


62 posted on 03/24/2012 7:22:58 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: DJ Taylor
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63 posted on 03/24/2012 7:24:29 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: anglian

Batman.....is that you?


64 posted on 03/24/2012 7:26:01 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Sorry,no tag line today.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
enrolled at Seminole State College until the school kicked him out this week, citing safety concerns.

It sounds like the school kicked him out due to a fear of backlash from the Martin shooting, not because of Zimmerman being a threat.

65 posted on 03/24/2012 7:27:16 AM PDT by Tribune7 (GAS WAS $1.85 per gallon on the day Obama was Inaugurated! - - freeper Gaffer)
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To: Mustangman

best post I’ve read on this story.

I’m not sure what he is guilty of...but one thing is certain...he should have backed off when the dispatcher told him to back off.


66 posted on 03/24/2012 7:32:31 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Mustangman
If the GOP was any good at politics, they would accuse the Dems of inflaming racial hatred between blacks and Hispanics.

”Any young American of any ethnic background should be safe period. We should all be horrified no matter what the ethnic background. Is the president suggesting that if it had been a white who had been shot that would be ok because it didn’t look like him?”

He went on to add that it’s “just nonsense dividing this country up. It is a tragedy this young man was shot. It would have been a tragedy if he had been Puerto Rican or Cuban or if he had been white or if he had been Asian American of if he’d been a Native American. At some point we ought to talk about being Americans. When things go wrong to an American. It is sad for all Americans.” ... Newt Gingrich

67 posted on 03/24/2012 7:38:07 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: cport

I agree. What we do know from direct eyewitness accounts is that Zimmerman did not attack Martin.

My guess from what I have seen is that Zimmerman was watching Martin, Martin noticed Zimmerman observing him, evaded, then attacked him when Zimmerman wasn’t expecting it.

There are two eyewitnesses to this, I think, though one might be Zimmerman’s father.

Police are, for the most part, pretty sensitive to the ring of truth to a story, and because they have to do it all the time, can pick up things that either add or detract to that ring of truth.

Zimmerman, two eyewitnesses, and physical evidence all told the same story (later backed by the 911 call) so it seems that was entirely evident to the police, and is why they didn’t charge him and bring him in.

I am not against investigating this further, but this a mob attack right now. I hate it.


68 posted on 03/24/2012 8:02:17 AM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Methinks this is going to "blow-back" in their faces BIG TIME. Duke lacrosse team "squared and cubed".

I'm looking forward to watching that unfold. The pile on was so immediate and one and all jumped on, from all the Official Race Hustlers to posters here, that it's obvious they were eager to take advantage of such an opportunity.

It is distressing how easily so many have been played, though. Hopefully, many will learn from this how vulnerable they are to emotional manipulation by the state controlled media. It's going to become more intense the close we get to the November elections.

When it comes to rational thinking and sanity, these days we're on our own.

69 posted on 03/24/2012 8:09:15 AM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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To: altura

I don’t fault this guy for being a self-appointed “crime watch” person.

When I moved into this neighborhood 25 years ago, it was sleepy and quiet, and stayed that way for a long time.

A few years, a woman of color moved into the neighborhood across the street from us, and brought probably six kids of all ages ranging from 2 to 17 with her, no father.

The oldest kid in the family was creepy, looked and dressed like a gang-banger, had strange people of various ages coming and going at all hours.

The oldest kid broke into the house next to them (an elderly couple in their late seventies) while they were home, and the poor woman went into her bathroom and found the oldest kid (probably 18 at the time) hiding in the shower. He was arrested and disappeared.

Another time, I came home from work in the middle of the day, and found six police cars in front of my house. It is a strange feeling to walk up to the cops and say “Excuse me...I live in this house. What is going on?”

He said they had reports of a kid running through people’s back yards and climbing over fences, etc. He was last seen disappearing into my back yard by my neighbor who was just driving up, saw the kid run across the street into my back yard, then saw him climb the fence into someone else’s yard.

So he called the cops.

They found a piece of paper in my backyard near where he climbed the fence that had a bunch of first names and phone numbers on it. There was snow, so they brought in a dog and followed the footprints all they way through a bunch of yards, through some woods, and eventually to the back door of the house across the street. There was a pair of mud covered Nikes outside the back door.

One of the detectives was telling me this while the other cops were standing around. He said he rang the bell, and after a while, one of the older boys came to the door (he was the only one home) and the detective told him there were reports of someone running through yards, and did he know anything about it?

The kid said no, so the detective asked him “If you weren’t running, why are you sweating?” and the kid said he had just washed his face. The cop reached over and put his hand on the back of the kid’s head and said “Your whole head is wet...did you wash the back of your head as well?” (The other cops started laughing and one of them said “Ughh...you touched his sweaty-ass head???”)

The detective said they tracked prints to his door and pointedly asked if the shoes were his. The kid said no, so the detective said, what are you going to say if your mother says they ARE yours?

Bottom line, I don’t just sit in my house now. I look out the windows when I hear something, and have no problem calling the police station directly now. Does that make me a self-appointed “crime watch” nut bag?

I think it is something that people USED to do in their neighborhoods, because it was the RIGHT thing to do. Perhaps if I lived in a neighborhood like that one, I might be inclined to be more aggressive and vocal and vigilant towards people I don’t know who are on my street.

Maybe that is coming to all of us.


70 posted on 03/24/2012 8:31:28 AM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: altura

I do want to stress that I am giving this woman the benefit of the doubt, because she has a job, and seems to be associated with a church of some kind. (a gut feeling, based on the dress and demeanor of some occasional visitors)

I think she might be a foster home taking in kids, because the quantity and age of the kids has changed over time.

I just think she cannot control them, all boys, no girls. It is too much for her, though she appears to try.


71 posted on 03/24/2012 8:37:35 AM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: Irenic

...when are we going to get Trayvon’s background? I’m curious to know why he was expelled from school at the time of the shooting.

When is the media going to dig into the background of Obama like this?


72 posted on 03/24/2012 8:41:44 AM PDT by Tzimisce (this sucks)
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To: Tzimisce

Just like Obama, Trayvon’s records have been sealed. Obama’s son indeed.


73 posted on 03/24/2012 8:44:49 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Prospero
This racialist and divisive administration has set race relations back thirty or forty years in this nation.

My personal opinion is that blacks themselves have to bear some of the responsibility here because they voted for this scum simply because he was black. No other reason in the entire world, just that he was black. That is racist in its on way. To refuse to vote for someone else simply because of their skin color is racist. So is this. I know a lot of blacks that had no idea who Obama was or where he was even from. Ask 20 blacks now what his real job was before he became a senator and probably 1 can tell you he was in the IL house. They'd never heard of him. The white socialist commie movement knew more about him than blacks did.

74 posted on 03/24/2012 8:49:41 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (God is watching America. He is judging America. He does not like what He is seeing.)
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To: Mustangman

“Zimmerman was following Trayvon which scared Trayvon.”

Then why didn’t Trayvon call 911, he had a phone.


75 posted on 03/24/2012 8:51:59 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Mustangman

I’ve read a ton of stuff about this case and I think that your post is the most complete and accurate summary of the situation that I’ve seen yet. Well said. Thanks.


76 posted on 03/24/2012 8:54:40 AM PDT by islander-11 (Save Nantucket - Vote Republican!!!)
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To: Irenic; Mustangman
Obama's Willie Horton.
77 posted on 03/24/2012 8:55:53 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There is no such thing as "renewable" energy.)
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To: altura

Born in England and returning as a teenager, going to an English school and known as the only Yank around, it wasn’t baloney at all! I even had the bobbies come looking to question me! when I did kick butt. Gimmie three steps only worked so often and was only by luck and cunning that I manageed to escape, so the Yank stood his ground even if he got the worst of it. My encounters with the bullies of the time would be similar to hate crimes today. And the cainings by the school headmaster would be assault. lol.


78 posted on 03/24/2012 8:57:01 AM PDT by anglian
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To: Irenic
Oh, and by the way, here is a cup o joe for ex-gov's Haley "let the murderers out free" Barbour and Jeb Bush. They should have kept their collective big mouths shut until all the facts became known about what happened that night.

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79 posted on 03/24/2012 9:12:15 AM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Irenic

“This whole thing is spinning WAY out of control.”

But 0 is concerned about this matter. I just wish he would show the same concern about the ICE agent in AZ who was killed by our Justice Dept.


80 posted on 03/24/2012 9:34:50 AM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (The response to 1984 is 1776.)
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To: humblegunner

“Tray-von’s dad totally looks like Ray Nagin.”

Wow, for sure.


81 posted on 03/24/2012 9:41:20 AM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (The response to 1984 is 1776.)
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To: chooseascreennamepat

There are plenty of things for Obama to be concerned about, especially what you mentioned AND—

The commanding officer of Camp Pendleton said Thursday he is displeased at “incorrect and deeply hurtful” comments made about a Marine sergeant fatally shot by an Orange County sheriff’s deputy.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/02/marine-commander-displeased-at-comments-about-marine-killed-by-deputy.html

A suspected child rapist is on the loose and in a statement obtained exclusively by The Daily Caller, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement accepts responsibility for releasing him.

The man is identified by ICE as Amado Espinoza-Ramirez. Chicago police arrested him last August, and he was ultimately charged with forty-two counts of predatory sexual acts.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/21/ice-admits-releasing-alleged-child-rapist/


82 posted on 03/24/2012 9:41:34 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

OK, but do they look like what Obama’s son would look like?


83 posted on 03/24/2012 9:49:14 AM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: vox_freedom
The Marine was a man of color but he was just a Marine, doncha know....Photobucket
84 posted on 03/24/2012 9:56:58 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

I stll WANT to know why “little travone” had been suspended from school. My guess is assault. Not many kids get suspended for minor issues anymore.


85 posted on 03/24/2012 10:20:30 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: lonestar
ARLINGTON — Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Friday that the “stand your ground” self-defense law he signed while in office should not apply to the case of a teenager who was killed by a neighborhood watch volunteer in his home state. “This law does not apply to this particular circumstance,” Bush said after an education panel discussion at the University of Texas at Arlington. “Stand your ground means stand your ground. It doesn’t mean chase after somebody who’s turned their back.” Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/jeb-bush/2012/03/24/jeb-bush-says-stand-your-ground-invalid-trayvon-martin-case#ixzz1q4NPO5sB
86 posted on 03/24/2012 1:52:26 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: freeangel

tardiness. Keep on spreading your false guesses.


87 posted on 03/24/2012 2:09:16 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Mustangman

Thanks for your reasonable post. The Internet is exploding, false information is being spread, insults fly.

There is no witness report that Martin initiated the physical encounter. None. There is a report from a man named John of seeing the two of them on the ground. Martin was suspended from school for tardiness not violence. Zimmerman has a police record not for tardiness but for violence. The incident took place not at night but at 7PM, when sun was still over the horizon. Zimmerman made 46 911 calls in the past year not in the past several years, a couple each month, not a unreasonable number. His effectiveness as a self-appointed community protector? 40 burglaries in the past year (correct my arithmetic if you know better, that’s what I remember reading) and now the death of an innocent man who was not a stranger in the neighbourhood having visited it before, if not before that day, then earlier that day before he walked to the convenience store.

An experienced policeman would have initiated a conversation with the suspect instead of stalking him. A short fat Latino man with an earring stalking me on the street, I would have assumed based on my experience that he was a fag, and I wonder if that is what Martin assumed.

As I said, insults fly everywhere. Have you been called a Communist yet? I have. Have you been called a race hustler, a troll from DU, idiot, moron? Have you been generously offered free advice to seek spiritual and psychiatric help?


88 posted on 03/24/2012 2:23:34 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: tasha2012
defenseless child

lol

93 posted on 03/24/2012 3:10:12 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: tasha2012
Your post is full of inaccuracies that have been fully disproven in multiple threads.

Please post the Florida statute that was violated by Zimmerman, and the evidence released to the public that supports probable cause Zimmerman violated that statute.

Otherwise, admit you are just a kneejerk emotional reactionary with no basis in fact for your assertions.

95 posted on 03/24/2012 3:35:47 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: Revolting cat!

“tardiness”

Thanks for that info. Now, I can hardly wait to hear what the eyewitness has to say. I wonder if it will be enough to stop the race haters/baiters from continuing the lynchmob mentality at the hands of their black slavemasters, Jackson, Sharpton and the black panthers. God forbid that something like facts might come out before jumping to conclusions. Remember towanna brawley and the Duke Lacrosse fiascos?


96 posted on 03/24/2012 3:36:45 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: tasha2012

Go back to DU, racist trash.


97 posted on 03/24/2012 3:39:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: tasha2012

I see the ‘younger generation’ still hasn’t figured out how a shift key works...


98 posted on 03/24/2012 3:42:03 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: freeangel

The race hustlers will go on. It is an opportunity like the Rodney King case.


99 posted on 03/24/2012 4:04:28 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Irenic

Thank you for the update Irenic.


100 posted on 03/24/2012 4:42:00 PM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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