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‘The thing that frightens our opponents most’ is ‘an evangelical-Catholic alliance’
Life Site News ^ | March 23, 2012 | BEN JOHNSON

Posted on 03/24/2012 6:41:51 AM PDT by NYer

NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE, March 22, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) – Politicians usually calculate every action to maximize their popularity among future voters, especially during an election year. But a prominent leader of the nation’s second largest denomination says President Barack Obama’s HHS mandate has the potential to unite Catholics and Protestants into a coalition that will turn him out of office in November.

Dr. Richard Land, president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, said, “The thing that frightens our opponents the most is the specter of an evangelical-Catholic alliance – because they can count.” He told listeners of his radio program, Richard Land Live, “You take evangelicals, and you take Roman Catholics, and you are over 50 percent of the population of the country.”

Land said, while two-thirds of Baptists voted for “born again” candidate Jimmy Carter in 1976, the vote began to turn against Democrats in the 1980s.

Meanwhile, evidence continues to mount that Catholic voters are turning against the president as the election nears.

On Thursday Bill Donahue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, cited a new poll from the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life that found the number of white Catholics who saw the Obama administration as “hostile” to religion climbed from 17 percent in 2009 to 31 percent. In a press release e-mailed to LifeSiteNews.com, he said, “It is not hard to fathom why the Obama administration is having a hard time with Catholics.” In addition to the HHS mandate, “the administration recently denied funding to a Catholic social service agency that helps women and children merely because it is pro-life.”

Looking ahead to the election Donahue said, “Everyone knows that Protestants vote Republican, and Jews vote Democrat. It’s Catholics who are up for grabs.”

Exit polls show in 2008, 78 percent of Jewish voters supported Obama, and 73 percent of evangelical Christians voted for John McCain. Meanwhile, 54 percent of Catholics cast their ballots for Obama. In 2004, they narrowly favored George W. Bush over fellow Catholic John Kerry. 

Rev. Robert Jeffress, pastor of the 10,000-member First Baptist Church of Dallas, told LifeSiteNews.com that Southern Baptists tend to vote for candidates who share their convictions about life and faith, not because of anything their church is doing, but because more conservative people are drawn to evangelical churches.

“Frankly, I’m disappointed that more pastors in the Southern Baptist church don’t encourage their members to get out and vote,” he told LifeSiteNews. “Our primary mission is to win people to faith in Jesus Christ, but we’re also called to be salt, preservatives in our society to prevent a premature collapse of our society.”

For generations, Christians saw politics as something dirty or beneath them. Pastor Jeffress disagrees. “Politics simply means to be influencing the culture in which you’re living,” he said. “I believe as Christians we are called to influence our culture.”

He dedicated a chapter in his book Twilight’s Last Gleaming to ministers, entitled “For Pastors Only.”

“I believe pastors need to boldly stand, not for partisan politics, but for Biblical issues like the sanctity of life and the sanctity of marriage, and encourage their people to vote for those who uphold those Biblical standards,” he told LifeSiteNews.com.

Signs of a burgeoning evangelical-Catholic alliance against the secular state are multiplying. In February, members of the Southern Baptist Convention sat side-by-side Catholic Bishop William Lori in a House Oversight Committee hearing to defend religious liberty.

Land’s comments came during an interview promoting the new book Indivisible: Restoring Faith, Family, and Freedom Before It’s Too Late by Southern Baptist televangelist James Robison and Roman Catholic scholar Jay Richards. 

Former Baptist pastor Mike Huckabee told the CPAC convention in Washington, D.C., “We are all Catholics now.”

It is unclear how important such an alliance will be to the president’s re-election prospects, let alone future Democrats’ electoral fortunes. Strategists say Obama will be the first president to entirely write off white working class voters. If unaddressed, changing demographics will marginalize the shrinking white vote as they have other decreasing ethnic groups.

Jeffress, who caused a controversy when he endorsed Texas Governor Rick Perry in the Republican presidential primaries last October, said preachers need to regain a sense of their prophetic ministry to the broader culture.

“In the Bible, prophets didn’t just speak to their own people, but they actually confronted ungodly cultures and ungodly leaders,” he said.


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1 posted on 03/24/2012 6:41:55 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 03/24/2012 6:43:20 AM PDT by NYer (He who hides in his heart the remembrance of wrongs is like a man who feeds a snake on his chest. St)
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To: NYer

Yes, I am in. It is simply a Christian Alliance.

Catholic or Evangelical? What is the difference? We both are in this together. But so are the Jews.

Christians, Jews and and some “groups” are all in this battle. Like it or not. The “book” describes those and the enemies.

Christians will not set out the 2012 elections like they did in 2008. We will have a replay of 2010.

A bunch of Traitors to the faith will go Bye Bye. Obozo with them.


3 posted on 03/24/2012 6:48:58 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: NYer
I hope -- I pray -- that Obama has awakened a sleeping giant and that he gets thrown out of office in November with numbers greater than the Nixon/George McGovern landslide of 1972.

If HALF the Catholics or gun owners or conservative women would actually get to the polls and vote, this would happen.

4 posted on 03/24/2012 6:50:06 AM PDT by Jerrybob
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To: Texas Fossil

In my mind, anybody who loves freedom should join this movement, even atheists.


5 posted on 03/24/2012 6:55:30 AM PDT by fatrat (extremely extreme right-wing radicalized veteran)
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To: NYer

They put him in, I guess they can take him out.


6 posted on 03/24/2012 6:56:47 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (obamacare is an oxymoron.)
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To: Texas Fossil
Catholic or Evangelical? What is the difference?

political coincidences aside, Protestantism is a denial of Catholicism. Is that "different" enough for you?

7 posted on 03/24/2012 6:58:49 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (obamacare is an oxymoron.)
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Votes reflect what one really believes.

47.8% of the Evangelicals and 11.8% of Catholics affirm the Bible is Literally true. 6.5% of the former and 19.8% of the latter see it as an ancient book of history and legends.

Evangelical Protestants are the most politically conservative Christian tradition. Within each tradition, those with literal views of the Bible are more politically conservative than is their tradition overall. Catholics that are Biblical literalists (11.8%) hold more conservative political views than the Catholic population in general does. The Biblical literalist Catholic is as politically conservative as the Biblical literalist who is Evangelical (47.8%) or Mainline Protestant. (11.2%) American Piety in the 21st Century, Baylor Institute for Studies of Religion http://www.baylor.edu/content/services/document.php/33304.pdf

72% of Catholics said that the will of the American people should have more influence than the Bible on US law, as compared to 63% of the general public. Pew Research Center, “Pragmatic Americans Liberal and Conservative on Social Issues,” August 3, 2006, http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/283.pdf (accessed June 24, 2008).

37% of Catholics in the last election were registered as Democrats, 27% Republican, and 31% as Independents. Aggregated Pew Research Surveys, 2007. http://pewforum.org/docs/?DocID=295#ideology

More: http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html


8 posted on 03/24/2012 7:12:12 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a damned+morally destitute sinner,+trust Him to forgive+save you,+live....)
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To: the invisib1e hand
They put him in, I guess they can take him out.

Who is the "They" you are defaming - Catholics or Evangelicals?

9 posted on 03/24/2012 7:12:51 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Protestantism is a denial of Catholicism.

Yep, I guess it does. No Pope. And no King but Jesus, God's son. So the dispute is among leadership by men, not about scripture.

Grow up. Join the battle. We are all in this, like it or not.

10 posted on 03/24/2012 7:17:54 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: NYer

Catholics are socialists by nature. Interestingly, those opposed to socialism also tend to move away from the concept of centering the entire religion around sin. Socialism thrives in the world due to Catholics.


11 posted on 03/24/2012 7:26:56 AM PDT by JimWayne
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To: Texas Fossil

It is not an evangelical-Catholic alliance. Period.
It’s about Americans voting for the best candidate AVAILABLE. Period.
There are enough attacks on the American people without trying to push a religeous divide on us as well.


12 posted on 03/24/2012 7:27:39 AM PDT by WestwardHo
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To: Servant of the Cross
He's not defaming anyone.

And it's almost certainly Catholics.

Ethnics in the Democratic party - Irish, Italian - have been leaning Right for 30 years. The "Reagan Democrats".

But in the wake of the financial collapse of 2008, they reverted to the Democratic party out of fear.

Perhaps understandable. The old Ward bosses undoubtedly came by and said, "see - deese Repugnants is no good. Vote for our guy, even if he is a bit scary".

So they did. But after all that cooing in their ears, the real Obama came out: a thug surrounded by cheap enforcers, bent on intimidation and extortion.

Now the same people have gotten a little taste of what living in the old Soviet Union was like: they don't care what you think. They'll just bully you until you do what they want you too, and that means party time for them on everyone else's dime. Work is not for them...that's for the prole class. Beeg Men don't make things, they take them.

So get a clue. Catholics blessed us with the Kennedy's who brought us mass immigration from the Third World, un-civil rights (anyone non-white outranks a white any day of the week, 'cept if they're Irish illegal immigrants), and a collapse of moral values - Teddy being the poster child for wanton behavior.

So they put these freaks in, they can get a clue and take them out.

13 posted on 03/24/2012 7:29:08 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: JimWayne

Delusional


14 posted on 03/24/2012 7:39:11 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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15 posted on 03/24/2012 7:40:36 AM PDT by narses
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To: Regulator

Your anti-Catholic underwear is showing. And it’s not pretty.


16 posted on 03/24/2012 7:41:16 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: NYer

This will degenerate into a Catholic bashing thread in 3....2.....1..


17 posted on 03/24/2012 7:41:18 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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Your count started way too late ....


18 posted on 03/24/2012 7:42:10 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: WestwardHo

I never used nor implied a divide. I simply said that Christians, Jews and some others are all in this together.

We have a common enemy who wishes to destroy the finest nation in the world.

I know the title says “alliance”. But that choice of words was not mine.


19 posted on 03/24/2012 7:44:13 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: NYer
Yes, it is about time that Christians and Jews realize that if we do not hang together, we will surely hang separately!

Islam and Liberalism are two linked cults, simply not compatible with civilization.

20 posted on 03/24/2012 7:44:46 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: WestwardHo

I went back to my original post and found that I did use the word “alliance”. But that was because the title of the article used it.

It was a mistake for me to use those words.

You are correct.


21 posted on 03/24/2012 7:46:33 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: NYer
Former Baptist pastor Mike Huckabee told the CPAC convention in Washington, D.C., “We are all Catholics now.”

It is happening - we're also pulling in Jews who happen to be conservative. One very powerful coalition is forming - naturally...

22 posted on 03/24/2012 7:47:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: NYer
“The thing that frightens our opponents the most is the specter of an evangelical-Catholic alliance – because they can count.” ... Evangelical leader Dr. Richard Land

As a Catholic, I applaud Dr. Land and he is so right on about this fact. Such an alliance scares the 'Bejesus' out of the libs. And as posted elsewhere, it is NOT limited to Evangelicals and Catholics. It is all freedom-loving people, whether of Judeo Christian faith, or even no faith at all. We should unite and throw the Occupy_WH crowd out office this coming November. And this is easily over 50% of the country.

What perplexes me, is that on a distinctly conservative website, we have 'trolls' who would appear to wish to prevent, like the Libs, such an alliance, jumping on the differences rather than the strengths which unite us?

23 posted on 03/24/2012 7:51:01 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Texas Fossil

Friends and Patriots to the end!


24 posted on 03/24/2012 7:54:13 AM PDT by WestwardHo
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To: NYer

If Land were here I would ask him just what task he thinks such an alliance might unify around.

Electing the most liberal governor in the history of the republic to the presidency, just because he has an R by his name and he’s not Obama?


25 posted on 03/24/2012 7:58:29 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (In self-evident truth, in timeless principle, in the people themselves, lie our republic's only hope)
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To: NYer
Evangelical - Catholic alliance: Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to one hope when you were called— 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. Ephesians 4:3-5

United we stand: divided we fall.

26 posted on 03/24/2012 8:03:34 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Anti-Catholic?

Well, y'now...after the Albigensian massacres, St. Bartelemy's massacres, the Inquisition, The Treaty of Westphalia, the Huguenot massacre at St. Augustine, de dah de doo, all of which involved someone in my ancestral line, you might understand why we get that way.

I mean, after all...all you have against us is Drogheda. And of course, the San Patricio Battalion...

Recall that we viewed your arrival among us here with a bit of apprehension. Seeing the very people who drove you to foreign shores follow you to the Promised Land after all the heavy lifting was done (you know, defeating the King's armies and all that) and remembering what they did to you back in the Old Country isn't very reassuring. That's why the long probation period prior to the Kennedy election.

Gotta hand it to the Kennedy's. They had the PR thing down. If Oswald hadn't cooked it up on his own, some Kennedy flack might have staged the whole thing just for the sainthood value. Look what traction they got out of it!

For all we know, John is in his final years in Uruguay somewhere...or County Cork. Boffin' his last bimbo...maybe it was all staged.

So uh, our reservations have been um....somewhat validated.

But I'm all for ecumenical armistices, especially when it comes to taking down an alien freak like The Kenyan who thinks Abortion is a festive thing.

I even like Catholic schools, 'cuz the girls all wear the cute plaid jumpers. Or at least I did when I was a teen-ager...so the "anti-" bit just ain't me. Let's just call it...an expectation.

We let you stay with the condition that you behave yourselves: no more massacres, no more Papa this, Pope that...no Iron Maidens for the Un-Believers. Civic Responsibility! Adopt a few of the Protestant ideals...admit the Reformation had a few good points.

I go to church with the wife (she's one of y'all). Parking lot full of Obama bumper stickers. Uh, not at the Baptist meeting house. "ABO" most everywhere there.

But at the Catholic church, they've been adding a complaint about being forced to do something morally repugnant to them, and asking everyone to say a prayer that this ends.

I like that. A little glimmer of light in the darkness: maybe they're getting it.

So to me, it seems that a certain group has been soiling the house we let them into. Political thugs, agitation for amnesty, etc...time for them to do a little soul searching and decide to make it right.

It's only the future of the world you have in your hands.

27 posted on 03/24/2012 8:16:19 AM PDT by Regulator
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...Gotta hand it to the Kennedy's. They had the PR thing down. If Oswald hadn't cooked it up on his own, some Kennedy flack might have staged the whole thing just for the sainthood value. Look what traction they got out of it! For all we know, John is in his final years in Uruguay somewhere...or County Cork. Boffin' his last bimbo...maybe it was all staged...

What the hell?

28 posted on 03/24/2012 8:20:51 AM PDT by BJ1
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To: NYer

Yes, and the geniuses at the GOP have concluded that a pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage Mormon liberal is the best candidate to cement that alliance. Whoop-de-doo!


29 posted on 03/24/2012 8:24:16 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Texas Fossil

We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately.

Ben Franklin


30 posted on 03/24/2012 8:28:15 AM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Regulator
I go to church with the wife (she's one of y'all). Parking lot full of Obama bumper stickers.

Well what do you expect living on the Left Coast?! Duh. Many like NancyPelosi say they are Catholic. Jesus knows different.

31 posted on 03/24/2012 8:33:13 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: daniel1212; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

INDEED.

However, James Robison was right recently . . . noting that we’d best come together to stand against the horrific demonized satanic globalist horrors in this country . . . that there’s no other viable, sensible option for authentic Christians, whatever the label.

Time is toooo short . . .

James Robison’s website:

http://www.jamesrobison.net/


Living in the Last Days article:

http://www.jamesrobison.net/?q=node/124


THE FLICKERING LIGHT OF AMERICA

Whatever happened to the “shining city on a hill,” as President Reagan and other leadersonce used to describe America? The description, of course, originated with Jesus Christ. Yet our nation, once a shining flame of freedom, is well on its way to becoming a flickering ember of debt, despair, dissension, and defeat. It does not have to continue.

Who bears the greatest responsibility for this predicament? I believe Christians do—those believers who are called to be light and reveal “The Light” of the world in order to inspire the ongoing presence of a true shining city that cannot be hidden.

In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus made it clear that we as believers are both salt and light. Salt helps preserve that which is precious and important while enhancing the flavor. Likewise, the Christian witness should have a positive effect on every aspect of life and culture. Jesus said that if salt loses its effect, it is good for nothing but to be trampled under the feet of men. Sure enough, everything sacred is being trampled under the feet of those who consider God unimportant or non-existent. Faith, family, and freedom are being trampled by many who call themselves liberals, socialists, progressives, and activists.

CONTINUED AT LINK BELOW:

http://www.jamesrobison.net/?q=node/123


INDIVISIBLE: Hope for the Future

By James Robison

http://www.jamesrobison.net/?q=node/122

For too long those who profess to have faith in the living God and claim to believe marriage, family, and freedom are important have hidden the light of truth under the covering of personal comfort, compromise, and unfruitful conformity. Now is the time to raise high the standard of liberating truth while standing together as one with the Father and other believers who love God in order to truly become the shining city on the hill that cannot and must not be hidden. INDIVISIBLE is our attempt to inspire all people of faith to find common ground for our common concerns. Together we can help correct our nation’s perilous course.

In its first week of release, INDIVISIBLE reached #1 on both Amazon.com and BarnesandNoble.com (non-fiction). We were informed this week that it will be listed #5 on the New York Times non-fiction bestseller list to be posted March 11. To God be the glory!

With gratitude we share the following review from Ken Hagerty, Vice President, Policy for Renewing American Leadership (ReAL) and ReAL Action in Washington, D.C.

This is a book we’ve needed for a long time. Other conservative books provide useful analyses of various social and fiscal issues facing our country. This is the book that combines that information with a unique understanding and explanation of the crucial spiritual dimension.

Indivisible offers a unique fusion of Evangelical and Catholic scholarship in theology, culture, economics, science and history on a range of the most pressing issues in America today. This is the book that will equip pastors and priests to speak out knowledgably and effectively on the issues that are threatening our society. It will also arm lay church members to help educate their own clergy and to encourage them to provide the leadership we need to restore our Judeo-Christian values in this country.

High quality research and reasoning, combined with clear writing make this book unusually valuable. Indivisible analyzes and explains a host of the most urgent social, political and economic issues facing this country, yet it’s still accessible and easy to read. Those of us who try to write about these topics understand what a rare achievement that is. If Friedrich Hayek had been able to present his views this clearly, it could have changed history. But this book pulls together much of what we’ve learned in science, economics and culture since Hayek’s time.

The thesis is that there is no way to separate so-called “fiscal” issues, from so-called “social” issues, and we shouldn’t try. You can’t have free markets without free men. Economics should serve human freedom in all its dimensions—political, social, physical, spiritual. Our freedom, in other words is indivisible. (p. 211)

This is exactly the worldview that informed the American founders and allowed them to create the greatest charter of government for a free people in world history.

Now, after more than a century of progressive education, our political discourse has become so secular that a high percentage of our fellow citizens have no understanding of the relevance of the Judeo-Christian worldview to their lives. Indivisible offers a series of principles that explain the political relevance of our moral values. Two examples really struck home for me.

First, I was surprised by the power and simplicity of the principle that God wants us to be free. I had never recognized that our free will reflects the fact that God intends for mankind to be free. “God valued our freedom so much that he has given us the power to reject him. And we did… But God has also revealed ways for societies to restrain evil and achieve some measure of freedom. In free societies the government both protects and submits to the rule of law…Free societies protect private property. They allow their citizens to participate in the political process, to make basic economic choices, and to freely exercise their religious faith. These freedoms are indivisible. (p. 319)

Second, I have wondered all my life why and how the secular progressives and socialists can possibly continue to assert, and base their policies on the inherent goodness of man, when all of history, and especially the hideous record of the twentieth century demonstrate that the opposite is irrefutably the case. Well, now I finally understand.

The myopia of the secular progressives is caused by the simple and profound fact that they reject the concept of sin. I now recognize that the evil and selfishness of men simply does not enter into their calculations. In the absence of human sin, all their faith in the state, and their totalitarian ideas, make a lot more sense—but not in the real world. In the real world, the consequences of those ideas are the ones honest people see in the coercive “peoples’ paradises” around the world—and yet the progressives and socialists stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the horrors that inevitably flow from their utopian fixations.

The reason I haven’t confronted this simple, but totally foundational explanation before, is that we’ve all adopted secular conventions pushed by the progressives to such an extent that our “political science” and even our conservative media no longer acknowledge fundamental principles like human sin. Sin is something in the “religious” realm, and we reserve that for Sundays.

But once again the American founders knew better. The reality of sin was clear to them. Sin explains the need for limited government, for the separation of powers and for checks and balances. (p. 316) In James Madison’s famous words: “If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: You must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. (p. 25)

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http://www.jamesrobison.net/?q=node/121

Bow Down or Be Brought Down

By James Robison

merica will either bow on her knees before God or be brought to her knees as a consequence of sin and by a refusal to build on biblical standards and founding principles. If we fail to respond to God’s invitation and receive His forgiveness, grace, and the divine guidance found only in the shelter provided by His presence, we will prove to be humiliated. But I am most hopeful that people of faith, along with those who love their families and appreciate freedom, will respond to the call of God.

As I write this commentary, I am riding in a bus in Mississippi on the way to Louisiana, Arkansas, Texas, and Oklahoma to sign copies of our book INDIVISIBLE. The co-author Jay Richards, his wife Ginny, and their daughters Gillian and Ellie, as well as Betty are on the tour. This week my beautiful wife and I celebrated our 49th wedding anniversary while on this important missionary journey across our great nation. At the same time, our mission team is literally sleeping on the ground in tents or whatever shelter they can find while seeking to help alleviate the suffering of people in Sudan. We received an email today from a team member. She reported that the people are so desperately hungry that an average of two children are dying each day from starvation while trying to get to the feeding lines. Our hearts break and loving Christians along with compassionate people around the world will come together attempting to help. My concern for impoverished nations increases my burden for America. If we do not turn back to God and liberating truth, we are going to lose the ability to see our own needs met, along with the ability to help others.

Every day I find myself shocked and amazed by the public response and especially the attention given by the media to any statement concerning the spiritual realm. Remember years ago when George W. Bush answered the question, “Who do you respect most in history? Who has had the greatest influence?” When he answered, “Jesus Christ,” you would have thought the world had come to an end. How dare anyone make such a claim! Certainly he couldn’t possibly really mean it. The fact he used it was portrayed as an attempt to gather the support of the brainless religious crowd. Sincere faith, biblical references, and respect for Jesus Christ are openly ridiculed.

This week Sen. Santorum referenced Satan as an enemy of America. (The Apostle Paul called this power “principalities and rulers in the heavenly realm of darkness and deception.”) The senator indicated Satan has focused the fury of his assault on the United States, a free nation professing to be “under God.” We probably won’t be able to say that much longer and get away with it. Many wish to purge it from the pledge! Granted, if Americans don’t really believe we need to live under God, then there’s no need to leave it in the pledge. The Bible declares heaven’s blessings are on nations “whose God is the Lord.”Total commitment to God and His truth does not mean you are imposing those ways on others, but certainly holding up the standard of truth while seeking to encourage and inspire people to line up with it.

Betty and I attended a play in New York City that presented a hypothetical debate between C.S. Lewis and Sigmund Freud. One of the statements that stood out was when Freud referred to a crooked line, and Lewis responded, “How do you know it’s crooked if you don’t have the standard of a straight line to measure it by?” Freud was taken aback, and the audience knew that Lewis had landed a solid blow. We do have a reliable standard and our founders knew it. The Constitution they left us is not an ever-evolving, unreliable document. It has proved to be the greatest founding document upon which a nation has been built. As a result of its soundness, Americans have prospered and blessed many nations with an outpouring of compassion.

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Body Armor for the Culture War

By James Robison and Jay Richards

We’ve heard for years that we’re in the middle of a “culture war.” A culture war, unlike a civil war, is not fought with guns and tanks, but with ideas, words, arguments, media, and education. Unlike ordinary political debates, it’s a fight over the fundamental principles on which cultures are based.

In our new book Indivisible, which will be officially released this Monday, February 20, we argue that Americans are “like tourists on a sunny beach. We’ve heard news of an earthquake on the sea floor, hundreds of miles away, but everything still looks normal. People are sipping iced tea, enjoying the warm sand and the sun overhead. Many think, ‘We’ve never had it so good.’ And yet, when we look closely, we notice that the beach is growing wider as the tide recedes toward the horizon.”

The tide seems to be receding even faster in the last few weeks. We all know that our economy is teetering and the federal government is endangering our children’s future with unprecedented deficit spending. As we observe in The Christian Post, 2012 was supposed to be the year when economic issues would dominate presidential debates, and so-called social issues would take a back seat. Instead, abortion, religious freedom, and marriage are also in the headlines.

The first two issues—abortion and religious freedom—come together with the recent U.S. Department of Health and Human Services mandate that organizations, including religious organizations, provide health insurance that covers sterilization, contraception and drugs that induce abortion. The Catholic Bishops have been especially visible in responding to this assault on religious freedom. “This country once fought a revolution to guarantee freedom, but the time has clearly arrived to strongly reassert our fundamental human rights,” said the Most. Rev. Daniel R. Jenky, C.S.C., Bishop of Peoria. “I am honestly horrified that the nation I have always loved has come to this hateful and radical step in religious intolerance.”

The media has tried to turn this into a debate over contraception, which they portray—incorrectly—as a “Catholic issue.” In reality, all people of faith, indeed, all Americans have something to lose here. If the federal government can force its citizens to pay for things they find morally abhorrent, then there is nothing the government can’t do. We are gratified that ordinary Catholics, Catholic Bishops, leading evangelicals, and even some libertarians have denounced this power grab. Glenn Beck has just launched a campaign called “We are all Catholics Now,” to bring together a diverse group of Americans to defend religious freedom. As we argue in Indivisible, to restore our culture, those who value faith, family, and freedom have to set our differences aside and start rowing in the same direction.

The HHS mandate is just one example of the growing threats to religious freedom and the respect for human life. The institution of marriage is also under attack. This week, the Governor of Washington State, Christine Gregoire, signed a bill that makes it the most recent state to establish “same sex marriage.” And the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has just upheld Judge Vaughn Walker’s decision to strike down California’s Proposition 8, which defined marriage as between one man and one woman. This issue will almost surely end up in the Supreme Court, where the future of marriage in our country could be decided by nine Justices.

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Small God, Big Government

By James Robison

It is obvious for all with eyes to observe that when God and spiritual life decreases in importance, government expands its powerful, out-of-control attempt to be in total control and it expands rapidly. The less we hear God’s unadulterated Word, the duller our hearing.

The prophets said on numerous occasions in reference to the national population, “You have eyes but cannot see and you have ears but you cannot hear.” Faith fails when the Word which is necessary to open our ears to hear is not faithfully declared. The Word tunes our ears to hear clearly in the spiritual realm so that we can walk in the light of divine guidance. When we do not see and hear clearly, we will make very poor choices concerning those who serve and are chosen to lead. The population begins to believe lies and there is no more dangerous person than the deceiver who thinks he is telling the truth. Those who are deceived are most effective deceiving others. The prophet Jeremiah said to a nation facing similar problems as ours, “The Lord has rejected those in whom you trust, and you shall not prosper with them.”

Without the wisdom that comes from God and His Word, we will not be able to discern truth and choose those with proven character to serve in both houses of Congress and in the White House. Keep in mind our representatives also choose the judges, cabinet members, and heads of bureaucratic agencies. Every election is important because those chosen to represent us set the course determining our future security and stability while also encouraging or encumbering the potential for success and prosperity.

While everyone may long for freedom at some level, history teaches us that people will often give up their freedom without a fight if they are promised security in return. This is a sucker’s bargain! As Benjamin Franklin said, “Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security.”

The election this year is critically important because of the heavy weight of our present-day challenges. There is, however, something even more important than the election and that is to grasp an understanding of necessary direction and corrections that must be made. Beginning with this election, if we don’t know the correct course, we will function like a mindless monstrosity. Church and national leaders along with all believers must lift up a reliable standard and seek to find those who recognize its value and importance. The standard must be consistent with biblical and historically-proven principles. When we elect those that we believe to be committed to the right standard, we the people must then hold those representatives to the standard or remove them as quickly as possible.

As God becomes smaller and our all-consuming government grows larger, you will also observe the smaller others become, the less important they seem to be, the less noticed and less effectively assisted. Meaningful assistance is the result of personal attention, interaction and legitimate concern. When government and its bureaucratic agencies or institutions become the so-called “safety net,” little, if any, effective help results. Without what I refer to as the “compassion connection,” there will be no necessary inspiration or encouragement to improve. Without personal interaction, the importance of assuming responsibility and the proper oversight requiring accountability will always be missing. Through many federal programs we are actually contributing to a sense of insignificance and dependence upon the government rather than independence and the drive to achieve. Jesus did say, “To whom much is given, much is required,” but He never said we are required to give it to the government and yet we foolishly continue to tolerate this mindless practice. National leaders continually appeal to our legitimate concern to justify policies that always fail and cannot be sustained.

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32 posted on 03/24/2012 8:45:43 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the information!


33 posted on 03/24/2012 8:52:30 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mmogamer

Too many drop their faith at the church/synagog door at election time because their union is more important to them than their faith or because they think charity means electing someone who will use the government to take away one persons money to give to another. This enables the liberal elite to continue to build their false god of government which they have every intention of making all of us bow to. It’s already happening.


34 posted on 03/24/2012 8:54:19 AM PDT by ThomasSawyer (Democratic Underground: Proof that anyone can figure out how to use a computer.)
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To: NYer; All
Let us see ourselves as individuals, endowed by our Creator, with life, rights, and laws to protect those rights. Let us not fall into the so-called "progressives'" mode of seeing ourselves as groups or classes, to be courted or punished for the sake of votes.

Instead, may we, each and all, use the technology available today to study the ideas which motivated the men and women of America's founding period to create such a clear statement of understanding of the Source of life, rights, liberty and law. Perhaps we may be able to influence and guide new generations into what Jefferson, in his First Inaugural, called "the only road that leads to peace, liberty and safety."

"Kings or parliaments could not give the rights essential to happiness, as you confess those invaded by the Stamp Act to be. We claim them from a higher source - from the King of kings, and Lord of all the earth. They are not annexed to us by parchments and seals. They are created in us by the decrees of Providence, which establish the laws of our nature. They are born with us, exist with us, and cannot be taken from us by any human power, without taking our lives. In short, they are founded on the immutable maxims of reason and justice." - John Dickinson (Signer of the Constitution of the U. S., as quoted in "Our Ageless Constitution," p. 286)

Unless today's citizens rediscover the ideas of liberty existing in what Jefferson called "the American mind" of 1776, we risk going back to the "Old World" ideas which preceded the "Miracle of America."

There are those who call themselves "progressives," when, in fact, their ideas are regressive and enslaving, and as old as the history of civilization.

Would suggest to any who wish an authentic history of the ideas underlying American's founding a visit to this web site, at which Richard Frothingham's outstanding 1872 "History of the Rise of the Republic of the United States" can be read on line.

This 600+-page history traces the ideas which gave birth to the American founding. Throughout, Richard Frothingham, the historian, develops the idea that it is "the Christian idea of man" which allowed the philosophy underlying the Declaration of Independence and Constitution to become a reality--an idea which recognizes the individual and the Source of his/her "Creator"-endowed life, liberty and law.

Is there any wonder that the enemies of freedom, the so-called "progressives," do not promote such authentic histories of America? Their philosophy puts something called "the state," or "global interests" as being superior to individuals and requires a political elitist group to decide what role individuals are to play.

In other words, they must turn the Founders' ideas upside-down in order to achieve a common mediocrity for individuals and power for themselves.

"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court even can do much to help it." - Judge Learned Hand


35 posted on 03/24/2012 8:56:08 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: NYer

If Christians avoid voting because they see politics as beneath themselves, they leave the direction of their culture to be influenced by non-Christians and anti-Christians, who will not act in accordance with Christian teachings. That is a prescription for ruin.


36 posted on 03/24/2012 9:02:51 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: Alamo-Girl; Quix; Servant of the Cross; Regulator; zot

We have to stand united as Christians, realizing that our common belief and faith in Jesus as our Savior, is the centerpiece of all of us, and is more important that quibbling over doctrine and dogma that has grown over the last 1,500+ years.


37 posted on 03/24/2012 9:31:21 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: NYer

It is good news every time the Protestants turn to help a Catholic cause. We should especially appreciate their help in matters such as moral condemnation of contraception, where they dropped the ball such along time ago.


38 posted on 03/24/2012 9:42:39 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Is that "different" enough for you?

They do have a common enemy though, the prince and power of they world. Satan, and I would presume that would include his minions, and there is no shortage of them.

39 posted on 03/24/2012 9:46:09 AM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are my comments.)
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To: GreyFriar; xzins; betty boop; spirited irish; Quix; Servant of the Cross; Regulator; zot
Thank you so much for your wonderful post, dear brother in Christ!

Truly, the adversary we are battling - particularly in these times - is the spirit of anti-Christ.

Time we spend picking motes out of other Christ confessing peoples' eyes is time we are not spending pushing back against the anti-Christ ideology infesting our education system, politics, entertainment and such.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. - Ephesians 6:12

God's Name is I AM.

40 posted on 03/24/2012 9:49:21 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: annalex

Are you SURE

you want me to get into . . . yet again . . .

where we perceive RC’s to have dropped the ball 1600 years ago and yearly since then?


41 posted on 03/24/2012 9:51:12 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

No — I don’t care what Protestant charlatans perceive.


42 posted on 03/24/2012 9:54:54 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Quix

God bless James Robinson! Would that more preachers and men of the cloth would speak as clearly to the decisive issues of the day!


43 posted on 03/24/2012 10:16:40 AM PDT by tjd1454
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To: Mmogamer; WestwardHo

BUMP! Indeed.


44 posted on 03/24/2012 10:21:20 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: annalex

What a charitable conciliatory and edifying response.

/s


45 posted on 03/24/2012 10:24:53 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: fatrat
Even atheists

Yes, I guess you are right. This is about freedom vs slavery. I have only met a very very few "atheists" in my life. Some of those few have seen the light since then.

46 posted on 03/24/2012 10:25:08 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: tjd1454

Indeed.

I’ve long appreciated his candor and his humility.

I think he and John Wimber long demonstrated humility way above average for Christian leaders in our era.


47 posted on 03/24/2012 10:26:01 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Boogieman

“Whoop-de-doo!” Indeed /sarcasm

BUMP!


48 posted on 03/24/2012 10:30:25 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: itsahoot
They do have a common enemy though, the prince and power of they world. Satan, and I would presume that would include his minions, and there is no shortage of them.

and the heretics suffer needlessly for it.

were it not for the Church, Protestants would be that enemy's plaything.

49 posted on 03/24/2012 10:48:53 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (obamacare is an oxymoron.)
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To: Texas Fossil
Grow up. Join the battle.

OMG that's a flipping riot.

Listen, hotshot, you'd have a better case telling Michael Tyson how throw a jab.

50 posted on 03/24/2012 10:50:50 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (obamacare is an oxymoron.)
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