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Lawyer: Federal hate crime charge against Trayvon shooter a 'challenge'
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/25/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html?c=weekend-homepage-t&page=1 ^

Posted on 03/25/2012 7:41:02 AM PDT by TigerClaws

A A A (resize font) Bringing a federal hate crime charge against a neighborhood watch volunteer who fatally shot Trayvon Martin will be "a challenge, to put it lightly," the victim's lawyer said.

Daryl Parks, an attorney for the Martin family, told board members of the National Association of Black Journalists (NABJ) on Saturday that prosecution on the state level stands a better chance.

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KEYWORDS: trayvonmartin
Family preparing lawsuit against homeowners association.
1 posted on 03/25/2012 7:41:08 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Funny how the “Hate Crime” statute only applies one way; also, it is a way to end run the double jeopardy clause in the Constitution and should’ve been thrown out years ago.


2 posted on 03/25/2012 7:44:21 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: TigerClaws

“Family preparing lawsuit”.....Much better odds of “winning” than Powerball.


3 posted on 03/25/2012 7:45:52 AM PDT by radioone
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To: TigerClaws

The hate crime glove doesn’t fit; you must acquit.


4 posted on 03/25/2012 7:46:03 AM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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To: TigerClaws

So if your killed in the projects you can’t sue but in a gated communitMy you can? Maybe we should gate the projects, for fairness.


5 posted on 03/25/2012 7:47:11 AM PDT by TwoSwords
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To: TigerClaws

When the dust settles, there may not be any state charges either. Many black pundits, leaders and race baiters have said anything less than murder charges, will not be enough.


6 posted on 03/25/2012 7:49:46 AM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Just check out the Hazleton, PA verdict. The jury OF PEERS acquitted and a hate crime handpicked jury of Federal submissisories found the victims guilty. Yes, I said victims. Of the PC dual judicial system.


7 posted on 03/25/2012 7:52:40 AM PDT by Safetgiver (I'd rather die under a free American sky than live under a Socialist regime.)
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To: TigerClaws

Why bother? He’s already been tried and convicted by the media and politicians.

I don’t know how reporters sleep at night. They don’t “report” news, they make it. They foment hate and anger throughout America and are destroying our justice system.


8 posted on 03/25/2012 8:00:19 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: TigerClaws
Only white people can commit "hate crimes," and George isn't white.

Heh.

9 posted on 03/25/2012 8:00:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Only white people can commit "hate crimes," and George isn't white.

Yeah, but he's got a "white name."

10 posted on 03/25/2012 8:04:31 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Eventually, some media guy will screw up and announce that George is Latino on national TV. At that point, the value of this episode rapidly goes down fast.

Note, here in DC last summer, we had a Latino taxi driver shoot a black guy...over a broomstick left on the side of the road. The black guy had a landscaping business that he’d started up (one-man operation)...was cleaning the mess that he’d made by the yard, and left the broom by the street. The taxi guy stops....thinking that the broom was dropped by a vehicle. An argument arises over what the taxi guy was going to do. The landscaping guy confronts the taxi guy (Latino), and the taxi guy pulls out a gun from his vehicle....shooting the landscaper.

No one will utter hate crime in this case....but it was obvious that the taxi guy went from 0 to 60 in a few seconds...when being confronted by an unarmed landscaper guy. Very similar situation....moments to think clearly and just react...in the wrong way.


11 posted on 03/25/2012 8:07:09 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: TigerClaws
The MSM. Don't it make you proud? And that's the way it is.. it seems to be to me; to wit

National Association of Black Journalists Reporter: . . . and in the fifth grade Zimmerman was admonished for dropping a candy wrapper on the ground -- the second time that year! In class that very day Zimmerman was told to stop talking during class and.. yes?
Member of audience: What about white kid who was set on fire recently by two black kids?
National Association of Black Journalists Reporter: Who?
Member of audience: The black kids were telling the white kid that he deserved it..
National Association of Black Journalists Reporter: Oh yeah. I heard about that. The white kid called them a name or something, the stress made the African-American kids to over react a litte. I think it was.. anyway when Zimmerman was in the sixth grade . . . .

Nothing will take away the tragedy and horror of the death of the young man.

Can't we at least recognize that getting even for his death by reviving the 1960s cries of "Take Ten!" is not the appropriate thing to do?

Most important vis-a-vis the appropriate action, the killer likely had no racial animosity but acted stupidly; he should be punished like any similar case.

.. but it is the radicals, black and white, who do say don't let a crisis go to waste . . . .

12 posted on 03/25/2012 8:09:09 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: TigerClaws

Mr. Martin was at best an unregistered guest and at worst a trespasser on private property the night he was killed.

Mr. Zimmerman was NOT acting in his capacity as a volunteer watchman, but was out performing a personal errand in his vehicle when he spotted Martin and called police.


13 posted on 03/25/2012 8:10:49 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Someone posted here that when determining perps Hispanics are classified as white by the FBI.

When classifying victims Hispanics are classified as hispanic.

The poor Hispanics migrating to the US are of Native American ancestry.
Not sure why that’s “white”.

Zimmerman’s father was Jewish.

A split from Dem ranks by Latino and Jewish voters in Florida would be great for Republicans.

Rats are obviously focusing on this to motivate Obama’s black voter base.


14 posted on 03/25/2012 8:11:08 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

INTERESTING that threads indicating the black youth might have been a criminal and assaulted Zimmerman are LOCKED by FR staff!!


15 posted on 03/25/2012 8:15:40 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: GreenHornet

How is a dead or alive lynching bounty of $10,000 legal?

Shouldn’t someone go arrest the New Black Panthers?

Spike Lee and others tweeted Zimmerman’s home address yesterday. Isn’t that aiding and abetting a criminal act?


16 posted on 03/25/2012 8:16:02 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Oldpuppymax

Only because there are about 97 bazillion of those threads floating around here.

Still getting a few posts an hour about a “new witness” - the same guy that was interviewed the morning after the shooting.


17 posted on 03/25/2012 8:24:33 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: GreenHornet
Yeah, but he's got a "white name."

So does Je$$ie Jack$on.

18 posted on 03/25/2012 8:28:19 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: mac_truck

Wasn’t the owner of the home in this gated subdivision where Trayvon Martin was staying Trayvon’s dad? Or was he staying as a guest of some other individual homeowner?


19 posted on 03/25/2012 8:30:10 AM PDT by ngat
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To: TigerClaws

Federal Hate Crime ???

Was a crime even committed ???

Heck, they would be happy until Zimmerman is dragged from his house and lynched


20 posted on 03/25/2012 8:31:41 AM PDT by Popman (America is squandering its wealth on riotous living, war, and welfare.)
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To: TigerClaws

I’m sort of confused by the whole outrage thing about this case. Celebrities and this “hoodie” thing and this “hoodie march” and this and that.

Where are these people when blacks are killed every-single-day by black on black violence? And it’s usually a kid getting killed when “gangstas” like to emulate what is shoved into their heads 24/7 on the radio by rap music? Gangstas who BTW usually wear this hoodie thing. Gangsta shoot outs on the street are OK but a guy possibly defending himself is not? And even if the guy was a paranoid nut, how is this different from some gangsta blowing away someone on the street?

And what is even more astounding to me is some of these idiots protesting are saying this Zimmerman was a white cop! Where do they get this crap? The guy is neither a cop nor white.

Is it the last name “Zimmerman”? That Zimmerman = Jew? That’s what this is starting to look like to me. The usual Jew hating by the left. The evil Jew kills the innocent black kid so let’s kill the Jew which I understand the New Black Panther party says they intend to do.

Yet tomorrow without-one-single-solitary doubt, I absolutely guarantee you tomorrow somewhere in the USA some black kid will be killed when the gangstas do their usual shoot outs. And do you know what these same people will say about it? Absolutely nothing..Unless of course they think a Jew is involved.


21 posted on 03/25/2012 8:32:00 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (When the smart do nothing the stupid take over)
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To: TigerClaws

Maybe they can find a crack in the Commerce Clause to make it so anyone can be charged with a hate crime at the Black Caucus’ convenience. I’m sure Obamy and Holder can find some way to make it the “Despot-Support Clause”.


22 posted on 03/25/2012 8:33:34 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: GreenHornet

Oh, yeah. One of those ‘white name’ hate crimes.


23 posted on 03/25/2012 8:45:48 AM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: GreenHornet

Oh, yeah. One of those ‘white name’ hate crimes.


24 posted on 03/25/2012 8:46:03 AM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists give insanity a bad name. 0bama: Four years of failure and fingerpointing.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

“INTERESTING that threads indicating the black youth might have been a criminal and assaulted Zimmerman are LOCKED by FR staff!!”

Very interesting indeed!


25 posted on 03/25/2012 8:47:48 AM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: TigerClaws

If Mr. Martin was trained in violent diversity black racism, the challenge presented by Mr. Zimmerman suspecting him as a criminal (read as racism by Martin) would have to be violently punished.

Hence, the mentality of diversity racism (Critical race theory) killed Mr. Martin. Otherwise, he would have just told nosey Zimmerman, he is with his dad in the neighborhood and went to buy skittles and to mind his own busienss, all would be well. Diversity racism sets up “us against them.” Violence is the way to handle any conflict.


26 posted on 03/25/2012 8:58:26 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: yank in the UK

What possible charge can be prosecuted against Zimmerman now that the eye witness has said it was self defense? It is Over . These inciters to riot need to go on home.This was a gate hopping hoodie .They end up dead or in one of our fine penal institutions. Why would obama want a thug for a son?


27 posted on 03/25/2012 8:58:57 AM PDT by tpuskett
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To: Oldpuppymax

You are overreacting from what I have seen. There was a thread deleted that was on the NBPP putting Zimmerman’s address out there, that included Zimmerman’s address. Posting personal addresses is a long-time no-no at Free Republic.

Individual posts have been deleted that showed the *other* Trayvon Martin, of Savannah, while saying they were of TM of FL. We don’t want to be spreading bogus information and look like fools.


28 posted on 03/25/2012 9:15:21 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: TigerClaws
I find it interesting that after all of the effort that the the RAT party, socialist educators and media have put into separating Hispanics from being white for the past 40 years that over night one incident has suddenly made them white again.
29 posted on 03/25/2012 9:26:11 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Of course you are right.

The so-called “leaders” of the black “community” will seize on any story to avoid confronting the problems amoung themselves. The statistics are plain, the problem isn’t white people killing black people, the problem isn’t cops killing black people, the problem isn’t even black people killing white people, the problem is black people killing black people, that is young black men killing other young black men.

Another angle of this which is willfully ignored is how the disproportionate criminality of black men leads people to be fearful of them.

And anytime somebody tries to get the black community to face up to it’s internal problem, like Bill Cosby did a few years ago, they get their head ripped off.

If Obama thinks riots or marches by Al Sharpton and Co. are going to help his re-election efforts, he should ask former NY Mayor David Dinkins how much the Crown Heights riots helped him.


30 posted on 03/25/2012 9:51:59 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: TigerClaws
The response from the libs on this case is making me more and more pissed off. I have been trying to read some of the posts over at DU, (know you enemy), but those wackjobs are even more out of control than normal. Every thread on Trayvon seems to contain the same perverted one sided liberal logic, if there is such a thing.

With those completely ignorant fluffy bunny hugging idiots Zimmerman is guilty and needs to die. Every thread about this seems to be using the same lame ass logic. IF Trayvon did this or that Zimmerman is guilty, IF Zimmerman did this or that Zimmerman is guilty. The posting of maybe this happened so Zimmerman is obviously guilty. Muffled recordings from different sources, oh the yells and screams obviously came from a young person, so Zimmerman is guilty. Reports of Zimmerman having his nose broken are obviously false because there would have been copious amounts of blood and an ambulance so that is proof of a cover-up and Zimmerman is guilty.

The idiots at DU and jerks @ OWS to me seem to be of the same cut. IF you are white you are obviously racist and Whine, Whine, Whine, support me, give me free college, everyone needs a living wage and free health-care. Don't these idiots realize that the money has to come from somewhere and I have not found that magic money tree yet.

/rant-off for now

31 posted on 03/25/2012 9:52:46 AM PDT by SledgeCS (I will vote for Obama when he says "The F'ing MUSLIMS attacked the USA and are the enemy")
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A good example is a few years ago they were bitching again how it’s hard for blacks to hail a cab in New York city...until they interviewed black cab drivers and asked them why they didn’t pick up blacks: “Because I don’t want to get robbed” is what they said. So there went the lefts whole “cabdrivers are racist” argument, and the subject was never mentioned again. I assume it will be when another leftist like Danny Glover can’t hail a cab. “Cab drivers are racist!”


32 posted on 03/25/2012 10:19:40 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (When the smart do nothing the stupid take over)
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To: TigerClaws

Bringing any charge may be a challenge.
The FACTS may sustain a self defense verdict.
Of course facts do not really matter to the Race Pimps and there will be rioting and more deaths as a result.


33 posted on 03/25/2012 10:35:37 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: TigerClaws
Family preparing lawsuit against homeowners association.

LMAO!!!
That's the deepest pocket the scumbag lawyer could find? Hilarious!

34 posted on 03/25/2012 10:39:41 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: radioone

“Family preparing lawsuit”.....Much better odds of “winning” than Powerball.


Zimmerman is probably going to have to declare bankrupcy. They may try to go after the development’s homeowners association if they sanctioned the Neighborhood Watch. Either way, its probably small pickings.


35 posted on 03/25/2012 10:52:34 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: tpuskett

What possible charge can be prosecuted against Zimmerman now that the eye witness has said it was self defense?


Wait till some a$$h@le finds out who this witness is and tweets/posts their name and address online. The Black Panthers will probably put out a Most Wanted Poster for them too. Can you say witness intimidation?


36 posted on 03/25/2012 10:56:07 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: rbg81

Mr. Black Panther can arrest me if he wants to. If he will let me know when he is coming, I will wait out in back by my shed until he gets there.


37 posted on 03/25/2012 11:06:47 AM PDT by sport
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I grew up in NYC and one thing those yellow cabs don’t want to do is take you to the outer boroughs. In Brooklyn, they’ll take you as far as Park Slope without an argument, but that’s it. Of course they are legally obliged to take you anywhere within the 5 boroughs, but they don’t want to and they don’t.

I think that is often what is happening with the black people who complain the cabs won’t stop for them. Of course the cabbie’s fear of being robbed (or worse!) is part of it too, at least with men, I’m sure.

I think black people have a delusional idea about white people. I think they think cops treat all white people great, cab drivers are always nice to us, the Courts are on the side of white people, etc.

That is not the case, white people get abused and ignored by “society” all the time. Sorry Rev. Al and Jesse Jackson, nobody is kissing our rear ends either.


38 posted on 03/25/2012 11:28:59 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: TigerClaws

The fact that the Boy turned and attacked Zimmerman is prima fascia hate.The boy had been trained to hate anyone who bothered him because he was black

The boy in the White House acknowledged that fact by declaring him to be son like


39 posted on 03/25/2012 11:35:37 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: jocon307

Yeah I grew up in NYC as well (Bayside), and still live here (unfortunately) From what I understand the outer boroughs don’t have as many customers as Manhattan, so if they drive someone to say Crown heights, they then have to drive all the way back with no fare to Manhattan which can be a bitch if it’s rush hour.

Either way those guys get screwed royally. I was talking to one cabdriver last month who told me before he sees a dime he has to make around $220 which can take 9 to 10 hours (they only have the car for 12 hours and work 11 leaving one hour to get back to the garage or they are fined if they are late). He has to make $130 for the lease, $40 for taxes (which was recently added thanks to the asshole from Assachussets, Nanny state King Bloomberg - Imagine telling the MTA they will take a pay cut like that. They’d go on strike in a nano-second), $50 for gas (and rising), plus pay for tickets which they get every other day. He said somedays he LOSES money! He gets in debt as he didn’t make enough to cover the lease! AND if he has an accident, even if it’s not his fault, the garage hits him up for $500 bucks.

It sort of explains to me now why so many immigrants who can barely speak English are doing it. They can do nothing else. It’s just corrupt as hell that whole biz. Those computers they have now in the back, the guy who owns the company who makes those, Ron Sherman, is also on the board of the TLC which mandated all taxis buy them for $5000 a piece. That’s Nancy Pelosi tactics! Pass this bill but first let me buy stock in the company!


40 posted on 03/25/2012 12:01:04 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (When the smart do nothing the stupid take over)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

It’s a hard job, definitely. I could never do it. First of all I’d get lost all the time, my passengers wouldn’t like that!


41 posted on 03/25/2012 1:36:45 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: TwoSwords
Maybe we should gate the projects, for fairness.

Didn't they make a movie about that?

42 posted on 03/25/2012 1:47:27 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: ngat
Wasn’t the owner of the home in this gated subdivision where Trayvon Martin was staying Trayvon’s dad? Or was he staying as a guest of some other individual homeowner?

Trayvon's father is not an owner at Twin Lakes Retreat where the incident occurred, he has another residence elsewhere in Sanford. A girlfriend with whom Trayvon's father has a child does live at the Twin Lakes Retreat and it is unclear how frequently the Trayvon's father visits her.

The father admits he was not at the girlfriend's house the night of the shooting. Considering the proximity of the girlfriend's town-home to where his son was killed and the fact it took three days to identify his son's body, it does not seem likely to me that Trayvon's father was living anywhere in the vicinity.

43 posted on 03/25/2012 2:21:44 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: TigerClaws

They probably have nothing to prove this a hate crime. Just because the kid was black does not mean that Zimmermann shot the kid only because he was black.


44 posted on 03/25/2012 2:29:24 PM PDT by dforest
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