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Witness: Zimmerman 'Never ... Tried To Help' Trayvon Martin
MSNBC ^ | March 25, 2012

Posted on 03/25/2012 12:30:48 PM PDT by Steelfish

Witness: Zimmerman 'Never ... Tried To Help' Trayvon Martin

By NBC News, msnbc.com staff and news services

A woman who says she and her roommate witnessed the final moments of Trayvon Martin's life told Dateline NBC that George Zimmerman had "his hands pressed on his back" and "never turned him over or tried to help him."

Zimmerman's lawyer, when shown part of the interview being aired Sunday night on Dateline, emphasized that his client would be claiming self-defense.

"I think there were efforts made to render aid to Trayvon," Craig Sonner told NBC's TODAY show.

Mary Cutcher told Dateline that she and her roommate both saw Zimmerman "straddling the body, basically a foot on both sides of Trayvon's body, and his hands pressed on his back."

Cutcher added that Zimmerman told her and her roommate to call the police. "Zimmerman never turned him over or tried to help him or CPR or anything," Cutcher said.

Sonner also reiterated what he had said in recent days, that Zimmerman suffered a broken nose and a gash to the back of his head.

A friend of Zimmerman's who appeared on TODAY with Sonner added that Zimmerman, 28, was distraught over the teen's death.

"Right after the shooting he couldn't stop crying," said Joe Oliver, who is African American and a former TV reporetr and anchor in Orlando.

Zimmerman has not been charged in the Feb. 26 shooting that has ignited racial tensions and raised questions about the Sanford police's handling of the case. Martin was black, and Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is Hispanic.

In a separate interview Sunday, Oliver said that "I'm a black male and all that I know is that George has never given me any reason whatsoever to believe he has anything against people of color.''

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; trayvonmartin
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141 posted on 03/25/2012 2:39:51 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Aria

I also think the tragedy could have been avoided and make no mistake this is tragic for Martins family. I lost a brother at a young age though to an accident not a fight. But tragic doesn’t mean a crime was committed.


142 posted on 03/25/2012 2:39:51 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: M1911A1

Many a shooting and many a gang war has happened over being
“dissed”.


143 posted on 03/25/2012 2:40:32 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: jwalsh07

I’ve been waiting for 129 posts for someone to point out the fourth amendment limits the behavior of the government, not the individual. Thank you! You’ve renewed my faith.


144 posted on 03/25/2012 2:41:17 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Jonah Johansen
On thing you can be sure of is that once Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the lawyers arrive the witness will be coached, their testimony will change from what they originally told the police, they will suddenly remember new details; whatever it takes to further those promoting racial hatred false narrative. It has happened over again and over again in virtually every high profile racially charged case.

Oh yes, the Liars will be out in full force.

145 posted on 03/25/2012 2:42:10 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: ArmstedFragg

Creative editing to get the desired outcome.


146 posted on 03/25/2012 2:42:33 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: Steelfish
What did either witness do to help their poor victim friend? Finally Zimmerman had to tell them to call the police.
147 posted on 03/25/2012 2:44:36 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: sauropod
The day the duly elected representatives votes to pass the law, and every time after that they vote to change it. Because public opinion demands they do so. How long have you lived in America.
148 posted on 03/25/2012 2:44:58 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

What’s your personal stake in this?

You aren’t arguing from a position of objectivity.


149 posted on 03/25/2012 2:45:42 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: sauropod
Hiya Pod .. bud, you gotta get outta DC metro !

I've missed seeing y'all at FReeps down there since moving further into the hills, but otherwise that entire area needs flushed into the Bay.

Tell everybody tomkat says hey !

150 posted on 03/25/2012 2:47:58 PM PDT by tomkat ( .. shall NOT be abridged)
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To: Steelfish
You have gone completely around the bend. "Due process clause?" Jeez...you need a rendezvous with Nurse Ratchet and the medication cart...
151 posted on 03/25/2012 2:48:15 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: brytlea

“It also takes a very big person to back down from public pronouncement.”

I’m backing down from one right now. It was my understanding that you could lose your right to claim self defense if you started the fight, no matter what. I believe the law is that way where I’m from.

The actual statute in Florida, quoted earlier in the thread, indicates that if you start a confrontation, then try to back out but the other party doesn’t stop, you can claim self defense.

I didn’t know that.


152 posted on 03/25/2012 2:48:20 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: org.whodat
How long have you lived in America.

My entire life.

So, by your logic, the Dred Scott decision should be "settled law?"

153 posted on 03/25/2012 2:49:19 PM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: Post Toasties

The altercation started five minutes before the shooting, when the kids phone went dead. You are trying to say that what happened before the on the ground shooting has nothing to do with the shooting. If you do not mind me saying so, that is as silly as hell.


154 posted on 03/25/2012 2:49:34 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: SoFloFreeper
That is the whole purpose behind the “controversy”, and you can even see Santorum pandering towards a certain voting block who are ruled entirely by their emotions and cowardice, IMO. This same voting block is one specific reason we have Obama in the White House right now, although not the only.
155 posted on 03/25/2012 2:49:44 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: jwalsh07

I agree - we don’t know yet if a crime was committed.

I wish the Spike Lees, the Sarptons, Jacksons, and Obamas of this country would shut their traps while this gets sorted out. Too much to ask... they only do that when the perceived victim is white.

I wonder if this will get Rush out of the rat hot seat?


156 posted on 03/25/2012 2:49:57 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
What did either witness do to help their poor victim friend? Finally Zimmerman had to tell them to call the police.

This is the part that bothers me as well. Zimmerman is on the ground screaming for help getting his face bashed in and not one neighbor goes to help. Had they come to Zimmerman's aid Martin would still be alive in all likelihood.

157 posted on 03/25/2012 2:50:13 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Pox

You might as well save your breath. Whodat.org and Alice in Wonderland were all over these threads yesterday. They’ve done nothing but stir the pot. They won’t listen to any facts and have made up their minds that Zimmerman is guilty regardless what anything might show. They aren’t willing to wait for a more thorough investigation to be completed. They aren’t interesting in critical thinking, only emotion. It doesn’t matter what rights a person has under the law, or whether the right laws are being applied. I think they’d be happier at DU. There comes a point for me when I remember proverbs 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.


158 posted on 03/25/2012 2:50:43 PM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick over 50)
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To: tomkat

Will do, FRiend!

I think that this year will demand an ever more active FR than ever!

Time to reinvigorate.


159 posted on 03/25/2012 2:51:06 PM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: org.whodat

No, I am not a lawyer.

But if I open my car door to talk to a strange person frequenting my crime-ridden neighborhood, and that person takes off in full flight, I will follow that person to see where he goes.

I would fully do that if it were my neighborhood, and it was Zimmerman’s neighborhood.

Did Zimmerman hit or assault Martin before Martin turned and ran?


160 posted on 03/25/2012 2:51:25 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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