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Black Friend Defends Shooter of Florida Teen
NY Times ^ | March 25, 2012

Posted on 03/25/2012 1:04:38 PM PDT by Steelfish

Black Friend Defends Shooter of Florida Teen

March 25, 2012

SANFORD, Florida (Reuters) - George Zimmerman cried for days in remorse after shooting dead a black Florida teenager, a family friend of Zimmerman said on Sunday, offering a sympathetic portrayal of the man at the focal point of a national uproar.

Zimmerman, 28, a white Hispanic, shot Trayvon Martin, 17, in what he said was self defense during an altercation in the gated community Zimmerman was watching on February 26 in Sanford, Florida. After barely going noticed for weeks, the case has since galvanized the country and renewed a national discussion about race.

"He couldn't stop crying. He's a caring human being," Joe Oliver, 53, a former television news reporter and anchor in Orlando who has known Zimmerman for several years, told Reuters in a telephone interview.

"I mean, he took a man's life and he has no idea what to do about it. He's extremely remorseful about it," Oliver said, relating stories told to him by Zimmerman's mother-in-law, a close friend of Oliver's wife.

Oliver's account counters the withering criticism Zimmerman has sustained from demonstrators across the country who have demanded his arrest and accused him of racial bias in targeting Martin. Celebrities have taken up the cause of justice for Trayvon, and President Barack Obama said "all of us have to do some soul-searching" as a result of the tragedy.

"I'm a black male and all that I know is that George has never given me any reason whatsoever to believe he has anything against people of color," Oliver said.

Sanford police did not arrest Zimmerman, saying the evidence could not disprove his account of self-defense, though the case is under review by a state special prosecutor and the U.S. Justice Department.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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1 posted on 03/25/2012 1:04:43 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Joe Oliver can expect some nasty feedback


2 posted on 03/25/2012 1:08:16 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Steelfish

You might want to send this to your boy santorum.


3 posted on 03/25/2012 1:10:39 PM PDT by JoSixChip (santorum is Mr Rogers without a spine. Check his record, not his rhetoric.)
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To: Steelfish

Props to him for speaking up. Serious guts in the face of death threats.


4 posted on 03/25/2012 1:11:07 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Steelfish

This is so blown out of proportion its hilarious. Tell you what. White folks can wear hoods too— right? Its not illegal for whites but ok for blacks is it.


5 posted on 03/25/2012 1:12:48 PM PDT by tpuskett
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To: Steelfish
Zimmerman, 28, a white Hispanic, shot Trayvon Martin, 17,

WHITE hispanic = "perp" vs black "kid"

Hispanic, or person of color = victim of "White" crime.

6 posted on 03/25/2012 1:12:58 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Steelfish
After barely going noticed for weeks, the case has since galvanized the country and renewed a national discussion about race.

This is a key point to realize in this "uproar". Alinsky strategy in play here.

7 posted on 03/25/2012 1:12:58 PM PDT by uptoolate (Republicans sure do like their liberalism)
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To: Steelfish

How long before my niece and nephew (my brother’s children) will be able to check “white Hispanic” on their census forms? Just wondering.


8 posted on 03/25/2012 1:13:03 PM PDT by Clara Lou (ABO! Go Newt!)
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To: Steelfish
Zimmerman, 28, a white Hispanic ... How is someone a white Hispanic ???

Is the NYT gonna start calling Obama a white African-American ???

9 posted on 03/25/2012 1:13:10 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Steelfish

Can someone please explain to me when Hispanics started coming in colors?


10 posted on 03/25/2012 1:14:03 PM PDT by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / "...it is their duty, to throw off such government...")
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To: Steelfish

What is a “white Hispanic”? This is the first time I have heard that term. Or is this only an attempt to make Zimmerman fit the template that it was an evil man preying upon an innocent Black child?


11 posted on 03/25/2012 1:14:03 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: nuconvert

Joe ain’t keepin’ it real.


12 posted on 03/25/2012 1:14:24 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: nuconvert

You nailed it.

We won’t see this endlessly repeated by the media. It screws up the narrative they’ve been pushing.


14 posted on 03/25/2012 1:15:16 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Steelfish
Trayvons death is tragic. More death will not bring him back. Anger will not bring him back. Retribution will not bring him back. He's gone.


Here is where our ANGER and OUTRAGE should be focused!Mohamed commands his slaves to murder by any means. Mohamed commits mohamicide.

Murdered by isalm
Toulouse 2012 March

They have standing orders to murder us where ever and how ever they can! Islam is the ENEMY!

15 posted on 03/25/2012 1:15:39 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (3 little girls murdered by islam, Toulouse March 2012 . Time for the Final Crusade!!!!!)
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To: nuconvert

You nailed it.

We won’t see this endlessly repeated by the media. It screws up the narrative they’ve been pushing.


16 posted on 03/25/2012 1:16:05 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: JoSixChip

If you read the article carefully, all it says is that the shooter was not racist. The friend was NOT an eye-witness to the shooting. Gingrich and Obama both need to stop making racial capital off this tragic case. We don’t kill completely unarmed people without first firing warning shots or at least shots that would cause non-lethal injuries. Even Jeb Bush noted that under FL law the stand your own ground defense would not be available here. Maybe you know a lot more than the eyewitness accounts we’ve heard so far.


17 posted on 03/25/2012 1:17:06 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
Zimmerman, 28, a white Hispanic Wow a "white" Hispanic. I just hate the media.
18 posted on 03/25/2012 1:17:54 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Steelfish

Better hide Joe the black thugs will be after you like they were Herman Cain..Black Panther thugs will put a reward on your head too.They and the white house thugs alone with the thug president are just waiting to start a race war before this election..


19 posted on 03/25/2012 1:20:15 PM PDT by PLD
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To: South40

The bottom left picture is not of the ‘victim’.


20 posted on 03/25/2012 1:20:56 PM PDT by TankerKC (Welcome to the age of "I Meant to Do That" Diplomacy)
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To: Steelfish

Thisshouldn’t surprise anyone. It’s a typical reaction by blacks when they are stirred up.

What we should be doing is prosecuting Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackass for instigating a riot and Instigating the Black panthers into a dead or alive poster.

What it all comes down to is that it wouldn’t be any use in being one if you can’t act like one.


21 posted on 03/25/2012 1:21:39 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Lmo56

No,in the new official language as decreed by the NYT,Obama would be a “white-African” unless DNA proves he’s Frank Marshal Davis’s offspring. Do you know something the rest of us don’t? ;)


22 posted on 03/25/2012 1:22:34 PM PDT by TexasSecede79366
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To: Las Vegas Ron
The DOJ/FBI count all hispanics as WHITE so as to up the white on color crime stats or at least that seems to be the reason for not differentiating between latinos and europeans. they may have some other even more outrageous reason.
23 posted on 03/25/2012 1:22:34 PM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: Steelfish
White hispanic? Someone pointed out that CNN first coined the term. The lib/commies are obviously trying to gin up race hatred.
24 posted on 03/25/2012 1:22:52 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: rusty schucklefurd

“What is a “white Hispanic?”

From what I can tell, according to the census bureau, Hispanics are white unless they are black, natives, or Asian. Whites of European descent are “non-hispanic whites”.

It really is ridiculous to have such inconsistent labels. There is one race. My heritage is Jewish, European, Cherokee, and African - what am I dear census bureau???


25 posted on 03/25/2012 1:23:00 PM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: Steelfish

... “a white hispanic” ...

Now that is a new term for me.


26 posted on 03/25/2012 1:24:02 PM PDT by Free America52 (The White guys are getting pissed off. We beat Hitler Hirohito and Krushchev. Obama will be easy.)
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To: Steelfish
That's pretty powerful stuff. I especially liked this part:
"All these people who are threatening George, what makes them any better than the person they think he is?" Oliver said. "You've got all these people wanting to lynch the man and they don't know the whole story. There are huge gaps that are being filled in and interpreted without evidence."
Obviously, he was asked to speak out by Zimmerman's lawyer. That makes it no less sincere on Oliver's part - it's just a shame the agitators have forced Zimmerman into a race-based publicity strategy.
27 posted on 03/25/2012 1:24:20 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: Steelfish
If you read the article carefully, all it says is that the shooter was not racist.

So why the "White" Hispanic terminology?

Have you ever heard the term "White" Hispanic before this case?

28 posted on 03/25/2012 1:24:31 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: bdfromlv

True. Many hispanics identify as white as well though.


29 posted on 03/25/2012 1:25:04 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Steelfish
"We don’t kill completely unarmed people without first firing warning shots"

Clearly you do not have a clue about self defense. But I must admit it is fun watching you santorum supporters twist your self into pretzels trying to change reality to match what he said.
30 posted on 03/25/2012 1:25:04 PM PDT by JoSixChip (santorum is Mr Rogers without a spine. Check his record, not his rhetoric.)
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To: Steelfish

First of all, NY times, there is no such thing a a “White Hispanic”. period!!! Hispanics ar made up multitudes of ethnic combinations, American Indians, South American indians, Indians from India, White, Black, Chinese, Japanese, Italians, Irish, Pacific Islanders, etc., etc.

I would suggest you dispatch one of your Obamabot reporters to Central, Latin, & South America, the Caribbean Basin, Spain, Portugal, the Philipines, Santo Domingo, Cuba, etc, etc. With that racially intended statement, your article has no validity whatsoever and means nothing but waste, bias and left-wing hatred!!! End of strory!!!


31 posted on 03/25/2012 1:26:13 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy POTUS Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: Steelfish

“White hispanic”.

This so perfectly crystalizes liberal media bias. Its almost satire...


32 posted on 03/25/2012 1:26:34 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: RedCell
They always have. Hispanic is an ethnicity not a race. I understand what you mean about the media using white to stoke tensions though. Caucasian Negro Mestizo
33 posted on 03/25/2012 1:27:50 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: bdfromlv

Yep, it’s all about the “A” (Agenda)


34 posted on 03/25/2012 1:28:16 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio - http://www.istandwithrush.org/)
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To: Steelfish
We don’t kill completely unarmed people without first firing warning shots or at least shots that would cause non-lethal injuries.

Still posting absurd comments I see. Your thinking is twisted in a significantly left-tilting or a typically ignorant manner concerning self defense and firearms in general, IMO.

Real life isn't a moronic hollywood movie. I implore you to consider that before continuing your comments.

Who cares what Jeb Bush has to say about stand your ground? Self Defense is Self Defense. Consider THAT!
35 posted on 03/25/2012 1:28:34 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Steelfish

Who goes to jail for his death? He did not attack anyone.

36 posted on 03/25/2012 1:28:53 PM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: ColdOne

I hope this PO’s the Hispanic voters


37 posted on 03/25/2012 1:29:26 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: Steelfish
"We don’t kill completely unarmed people without first firing warning shots or at least shots that would cause non-lethal injuries."

You haven't the slightest clue what you're going on about, now do you?

You've never owned a weapon or had any weapons training....and IF you had, you slept through it and should never be allowed to own a weapon.

There is no such thing as a "warning shot". That's Hollywood bullshit. You pull that weapon, you aim, fire, and shoot to kill. Period. You want to try and guess whether your attacker is armed in a split second? Be my guest. You'll be a corpse.

38 posted on 03/25/2012 1:32:22 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: PhatHead
There are huge gaps that are being filled in and interpreted without evidence.

From the city manager's report released to clarify the FACTS:

What about media reenactments of the shooting incident?

Any media reenactments of the shooting incident are purely speculation. To date the Sanford Police Department has not released any rendition of the events of the evening to anyone other than the Office of the State Attorney. The renditions we have seen are not consistent with the evidence in this case.

39 posted on 03/25/2012 1:32:44 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Steelfish

Incihng the towel back.

Obama screwed up.

He has pushed Whites and Hispanics closer.

Marco Ruibio will benefit from his war on Hispanics.


40 posted on 03/25/2012 1:33:22 PM PDT by NoLibZone (When will Obama call Trayvon's mom? He was quick to call Sandra Fluke.)
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To: TankerKC

Thanks. I’ve asked the mods to delete it.


41 posted on 03/25/2012 1:34:35 PM PDT by South40 (Mitt is full of Shtt)
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To: Steelfish

Can someone in the New York Times tell me what a white Hispanic is?

I wasn’t aware Hispanics came in different colors? This is really gonna mess up those employment applications when they ask about race.


42 posted on 03/25/2012 1:34:44 PM PDT by Sir Clancelot
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A WHITE Hispanic.

I didn't even know there was such a thing. Do WHITE Hispanics qualify for Affirmative Action?

Well we all know about them white people judging everyone by skin color....
43 posted on 03/25/2012 1:35:04 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: EEGator

Wow, nice Caucasian...


44 posted on 03/25/2012 1:35:20 PM PDT by MNDude
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“Martin was black, and Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is Hispanic.”

Just came across the above statement in a MSNBC.com article.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/03/25/10854229-witness-zimmerman-never-tried-to-help-trayvon-martin

Obama is universally described as “Black.”

Yet, his mother was white.

Zimmerman's father was white.

Why isn't Zimmerman described as being completely “Hispanic?”

Is there some secret DNA thing going on here that I don't know about?

Is this sexism?

Is female DNA less potent than male DNA?

Or is it just a convenient obfuscation to help the politically correct racial narrative of this story?

45 posted on 03/25/2012 1:36:36 PM PDT by zeestephen
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First of all, NY times, there is no such thing a a “White Hispanic”. period!!!

The NYT just texted me - they admit they goofed ...

They meant whitey Hispanic ...

46 posted on 03/25/2012 1:36:45 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

The media is struggling with this. They don’t want to alienate the latinos. What they wanted was a black vs white issue where the white guy was wrong and “white guilt” could be magnified and projected before the election.

This would do two things in their evil minds. 1. Motivate blacks to turn out and vote and 2. Renew the “white guilt” feelings that helped to elect obama.

They don’t want to make the Hispanics who already have deep seeded issues with black culture, more anti-black. This is a pr disaster for obama and the left.


47 posted on 03/25/2012 1:37:06 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Sir Clancelot

Hispanic is an ethnicity, not a race. See my post 33 for examples.


48 posted on 03/25/2012 1:37:16 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: RightOnline

Don’t carry a gun unless you are absolutely prepared to use it. If you do draw down on someone, you had better have no doubts that you can pull the trigger. If you do pull the trigger, empty the gun. That’s what I was taught.


49 posted on 03/25/2012 1:37:58 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: MNDude

Yeah, I picked that one on purpose. :)


50 posted on 03/25/2012 1:39:09 PM PDT by EEGator
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