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Trayvon Martin's ten day suspension
Charleston Conservative Examiner ^ | March 25, 2012 | Kyle Rogers

Posted on 03/25/2012 9:35:41 PM PDT by Kazan

A twitter message, allegedly sent by Trayvon's older brother, suggests Trayvon was suspended for assaulting a bus driver.

Trayvon Martin was on a suspension from school when he was tragically shot last February 26th. His school, Dr. Micheal M. Krop Senoir High School, has not given any details. His family has also evaded the issue. According to the Kansas City Star, the length of the suspension was ten days. This suggests a very serious offense.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: esmit; martin; medialynching; medialynchmob; obama; obamasson; racebaiting; suspension; trayvon; trayvonmartin; trayvonsuspension; zimmerman
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To: trappedincanuckistan
Do you have any proof Zimmerman committed a crime?

There is one way to end a conversation on these threads Steel.

Do you have any proof Zimmerman committed a crime?

Conversation over :)


Yes none - that I have gathered from reading and hearing what are the laws for the state of Florida and what are supposedly the facts in this case.

However, I have gathered that Obama and his Dem allies and the lame stream media are in violation federal law or are very close in violating federal law by attempting to incite riot.

51 posted on 03/25/2012 10:32:27 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: VeniVidiVici

Enjoy your life.


52 posted on 03/25/2012 10:33:23 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: rainee

Zimmerman’s lawyer has made a statement that this isn’t a ‘stand your ground’ case.
http://wtvr.com/2012/03/24/zimmermans-lawyer-stand-your-ground-doesnt-apply-in-trayvon-martin-case/


53 posted on 03/25/2012 10:33:33 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Red Steel

I was giving you advice regarding ending a conversation with someone on these threads quickly.

It was meant to be humorous.

:)


54 posted on 03/25/2012 10:35:37 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Jonty30

Sorry, Bubba. But I am enjoying my life. I love picking apart low-lifes like you. Are you even out of high school yet?

Your idiocy is quickly draining any relevance you had “going on”.


55 posted on 03/25/2012 10:35:56 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The Democrat Ku Klux Klan is alive and well under the banner of diversity and tolerance)
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To: Jonty30
commie crap has to do with economics and politics, not crime.

"Both communism and the New Left are alive and thriving here in America. They favor code words: tolerance, social justice, economic justice, peace, reproductive rights, sex education and safe sex, safe schools, inclusion, diversity, and sensitivity. All together, this is Cultural Marxism disguised as multiculturalism."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/02/cultural_marxism.html

56 posted on 03/25/2012 10:38:00 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: VeniVidiVici

If bullying and throwing insults is all you have, you got nothing.


57 posted on 03/25/2012 10:40:16 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Kazan

The article quotes his father as saying he was suspended for being in an unauthorized area.


58 posted on 03/25/2012 10:43:00 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Please do not use vulgar language when declaring Jonty and others to be evil lying commies.

Please do not lose your temper.

The world is full of evil liars. One thing they try to do is demoralize us by being irrational and dishonest and evil.

By all means identify them as the evil ones they are. Just don’t let them knock you off of your stride.


59 posted on 03/25/2012 10:43:24 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: trappedincanuckistan
It was meant to be humorous.

:)

Ok LoL. ;-)

60 posted on 03/25/2012 10:43:33 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
The politicizing of this unfortunate event is all for show because Obama and the Demo-party need villain(s) to energize their lackadaisical base to get to the voter polls this November. That’s the bottom line.

You're one of the few who've got it just right!

Gentlemen, we're on the evening of the creation of a National Martyr in the cause of removing personal portable firearms from the possession of the average citizen. It will be at the urgent non-negotiable determination of the current senior magistrate to align the black, feminine, and "gay" liberalists in his favor, by implementing an Executive Order to meet their commonly held demands.

The Poster Boy will be Trayvon Martin, and he will succeed where the discovery of the "Fast and Furious" strategy failed. The potentially legally correct but politically incorrect victim will be nominated as the perpetrator, regardless of the judicial body of facts.

The firearms in the hands of persons prohibited in cities of the North will be ignored, as will the deaths of Mexican citizens due to misplaced military arms channeled to drug cartels by federally arranged exchanges.

There are not many that will be prepared.

Q. E. D.

61 posted on 03/25/2012 10:45:24 PM PDT by imardmd1 (The truth shall make you, if not free, at least reasonable ...)
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To: Irenic

`Stand your ground’ is more like the Castle doctrine. It looks like Zimmerman is taking the position that he was attacked and defended himself, period; in other words, he is apparently sticking to what he told the police and they released him.
The prosecutor didn’t think the matter merited a grand jury.
All this `second guessing’ by lefties is just crazy talk, changing the subjects, designed to take the heat off The Won and gas prices, running guns to Mexico, our imploding economy, his wife’s outrageous, constant vacations, etc. etc. etc.


62 posted on 03/25/2012 10:45:56 PM PDT by tumblindice (our new, happy lives, thanks to Big Bro')
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To: Jonty30

When you pull a race card, either back it up or STFU.


63 posted on 03/25/2012 10:46:15 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The Democrat Ku Klux Klan is alive and well under the banner of diversity and tolerance)
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To: freedomrings69

Yeah, you don’t get 10 days for being tardy. You are absolutely right. Trayvon got 10 days because he was heading down the wrong path. He was feeling tough and attacked Mr. Zimmerman from behind. That is how tough young thugs fight these days. Knock the victim down with the first punch and then kick the snot out of them. I have even seen some of this myself.

It turns out that Trayvon wasn’t able to wack the back of Mr. Zimmerman’s head hard enough to knock him completely senseless. A lot of us older fatter shorter guys have got pretty hard heads and more of us than ever are carrying guns. We also feel that if someone is kicking the snot out of that they might nor care if they permanently injure us or kill us. Scratch one up and coming young tough.


64 posted on 03/25/2012 10:47:59 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

It’s easy to back it up, just read all the threads on the subject, where Martin’s race thrown in as a relevant point, just because of his race and no other factor.

Your turn.


65 posted on 03/25/2012 10:48:38 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: imardmd1

It ain’t gonna last, like the case of the Oakland BART station belligerent “victim”, whatever his name, didn’t last. The voters are stupid, but not that stupid. The old alignments will rule, no significant change.


66 posted on 03/25/2012 10:50:06 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Jonty30
"but don’t believe most of us would have done any differently under the circumstances. If it had been many of the Freepers being followed, Zimmerman might have eaten a bullet, due to his stupidity."

WHAT??? wouldn't have done any differently? OH, YEAH, right....how OLD are YOU?

67 posted on 03/25/2012 10:51:27 PM PDT by goodnesswins (2012..."We mutually pledge our Lives, our Fortunes, and our Sacred Honor")
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To: Kazan
If Trayvon Martin was suspended for a violent act, it would alter the public's perception of the events surrounding his death.

No it wouldn't. Martin, who would look like o'bammy's son if he had one, was *honored* by @500 people in Phoenix today, wearing hoodies in the heat of the day! Does ANYONE think they'll change their minds if they found this out?

68 posted on 03/25/2012 10:53:28 PM PDT by azishot
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To: rogue yam

I haven’t bought into any of that, so don’t worry.

Nothing here has been shown to be relevant outside the facts that leads me to change my mind.

Something that would change my mind would be something along the lines where Zimmerman did explain his intents and Martin still gave him a beat down. That would be a relevancy that would be important to me and would cause me to change my mind.

Outside of that and it’s still a case of a youth being followed by a man, who gave no indication of his intents, leading the youth to think his life may have been in danger and reacting to that possibility.

That’s how I see it and it probably won’t change.


69 posted on 03/25/2012 10:55:32 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30
It’s easy to back it up, just read all the threads on the subject, where Martin’s race thrown in as a relevant point, just because of his race and no other factor.

Your turn.


70 posted on 03/25/2012 10:56:05 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The Democrat Ku Klux Klan is alive and well under the banner of diversity and tolerance)
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To: Red Steel

Taken directly from Trayvon Martin’s high school website. This is an interesting read, especially when you get to the section that deals with bad behavior and the punishment for such behavior. http://74.53.27.98/~mkhscom/Information%20Files/Code%20of%20Student%20Conduct/Code%20of%20Student%20Conduct.pdf

It appears that to warrant a 10 day suspension, the behavior has to be pretty bad.


71 posted on 03/25/2012 10:57:28 PM PDT by JohnRand
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To: VeniVidiVici

Is that your picture?

You look mahvelous!


72 posted on 03/25/2012 10:58:13 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Kazan

Wow...gonna reserve comment until such has been verified...but wow.


73 posted on 03/25/2012 11:02:01 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: imardmd1
Gentlemen, we're on the evening of the creation of a National Martyr

I think this thing is going to blow up in the commies' faces.

The mobs will keep lionizing Trayvon while the facts will keep defending Mr. Zimmerman.

74 posted on 03/25/2012 11:06:49 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Jonty30
I’m in agreement that Martin should not have done it, but don’t believe most of us would have done any differently under the circumstances. If it had been many of the Freepers being followed, Zimmerman might have eaten a bullet, due to his stupidity.

Here is where I think you are wrong.

If I am being followed at night, my first thought is robbery, and my attention focuses on escape. Even when I am armed, I want to avoid any confrontation and just escape from the follower. Even when I was in my teens this was my thinking.

Trayvon was less the 100 yards from his house, and had lost his follower in the darkness. In any event, he knew he could outrun any tubby short guy.

So does Trayvon run home and elude his pursuer? No, in fact from the timeline I have seen, where Zimmerman lost him for 5 minutes while he was less than 100 yards from his house, it appears that he circled back and lay in wait for Zimmerman to return to his car.

My money is on the scenario that Zimmerman had committed no crime right up until the moment that Trayvon hit him with a punch. Zimmerman went down and Trayvon started beating him while he was on the ground.

When and if we ever see the autopsy results they will show that Trayvon had Zimmerman's blood on his hands from punching him, that his hands show bruises consistent with hitting another man, and that there are powder burns on one hand, maybe both, resulting from fighting for control of the pistol right before he got shot.

At no time did Zimmerman commit a crime, but Trayvon assaulted him, Zimmerman defended himself, and Trayvon got shot while committing a crime.

75 posted on 03/25/2012 11:06:58 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: JohnRand

It could have been a lesser offense or one of the “behaviors” below.
If this kid was into fist-fighting, it looks like Obama & Co. are going to have egg all over their (race-baiting) faces.

BEHAVIORS AND RANGE OF CORRECTIVE STRATEGIES
LEVEL V Behaviors are the most serious acts of
misconduct and violent actions that threaten life.
LEVEL V
Most Serious, Dangerous or Violent Behaviors
• Aggravated assault
• Aggravated battery
• Armed robbery
• Arson
• Assault/Threat against M-DCPS employees or persons
conducting official business
• Battery or Aggravated battery against M-DCPS employees
or persons conducting official business*
• Homicide
• Kidnapping/Abduction
• Making a false report/threat against the school*
• Sexual battery
• Possession, use, sale, or distribution of firearms, explosives,
destructive devices, and other weapons.*
The principal or designee must use the following strategies
from PLAN V. The use of appropriate strategies from
previous PLANS may also be used in conjunction with this
PLAN.
PLAN V
• Parent/guardian contact **
• Suspension from school for ten days ***
• Recommendation for expulsion


76 posted on 03/25/2012 11:07:23 PM PDT by tumblindice (our new, happy lives, thanks to Big Bro')
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To: tumblindice

It’s all too late, they have their martyr now, and Zimmerman will be sacrificed. This is the game perfected by Arafat, and the sheeple won’t know they have been used as tools, even as they bury their dead as a result.


77 posted on 03/25/2012 11:07:29 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Moonman62

If he walked or drove a car and wasn’t on a list as riding a bus, then the bus would be an unauthorized area. If its true that he took a swing at a bus driver, the school might have been worded it that way in a suspension.


78 posted on 03/25/2012 11:07:48 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: chris37

If I were being followed by someone and they did not retreat, I would duck out and not confront them. If I were being followed by someone and they did retreat, I would duck out and not confront them. If the man were getting into his vehicle and I could get his license plate, I would write it down. If not, I would just hide until he left. If I could not avoid a confrontation, I would be prepared to defend myself in whatever way I could. From all I have read, Zimmerman went to his vehicle and got attacked.


79 posted on 03/25/2012 11:10:27 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("We Need To Teach The Establishment a Lesson" - Newt Gingrich)
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To: JohnRand

• Battery or Aggravated battery against M-DCPS employees
or persons conducting official business*

Didn’t he attack/take a swing at a bus driver? That would be it then.


80 posted on 03/25/2012 11:11:36 PM PDT by tumblindice (our new, happy lives, thanks to Big Bro')
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To: tumblindice

It seems certainly possible that the lib’s might be walking straight into another Paul Wellstone Funeral situation, which backfired on them big time. Time will tell, but that is what this feels like right now as more and more of the story is revealed.


81 posted on 03/25/2012 11:12:31 PM PDT by JohnRand
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To: Revolting cat!
The politicizing of this unfortunate event is all for show because Obama and the Demo-party need villain(s) to energize their lackadaisical base to get to the voter polls this November. That’s the bottom line.

It would be providential if you are right and my intuition were wrong. But my guess is that mobs don't think when they grow crazy. Only their leaders influence their direction. This situation has obtained some serious sponsors. Unfortunately Santorum has chosen sides before the test of facts is complete.

82 posted on 03/25/2012 11:13:02 PM PDT by imardmd1 (The truth shall make you, if not free, at least reasonable ...)
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To: tumblindice

The father said it wasn’t for anything violent. He had ‘plants’ that people did business with him for. The Martin family lawyer sealed the school records. Maybe he got caught with pot at school.


83 posted on 03/25/2012 11:13:44 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: rogue yam
Now the pro-Trayvon numbers are dwindling here on FR.

I noticed that too.

'Bout time.

84 posted on 03/25/2012 11:13:49 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: All

OK, Trayvon went to Dr. Michael M. Krop High School

Here starting on pg 27 it lists student codes in the handbook.

For a 10 day suspension, it appears he was at LEAST at a level 3 offense.

http://74.53.27.98/~mkhscom/Information%20Files/Student%20and%20Parent%20Handbook%2011-12.pdf


85 posted on 03/25/2012 11:16:25 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: CurlyDave

The fact that could have run home, is a relevant point. That is true, he could have.

At which point, if Zimmerman had entered the home, Martin could then have freely kicked the snot out of Zimmerman, without consequence.

That is the sort of relevant point I was looking for that does make a difference. Everything else, including Martin’s conduct at his home town, in his high school, is largely irrelevant to the case.

I hope the court case will use as much evidence as possible and the proper conclusions will be drawn.


86 posted on 03/25/2012 11:16:41 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: CurlyDave

He also could have knocked on any nearby door or hung up the phone and called his dad or the cops.


87 posted on 03/25/2012 11:16:41 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Kazan

but i thought he was just a sweet lil’ boy? how could this be?


88 posted on 03/25/2012 11:17:17 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Kazan
I've been following this story, trying to make some sense out of it & have read lots of blogs, etc & it's my understanding that when Zimmerman was told not to follow - he was heading back to his SUV, or whatever he was driving & that's when Trayvon attacked him from behind & tried to take his gun.

If that's true - it puts a new light on how the altercation started. Will be interesting to see the outcome when all the facts are presented.

89 posted on 03/25/2012 11:18:00 PM PDT by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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To: tumblindice

That would seem to fit. You know, just think of the “reach” advantage of a guy that is 6’3” against a guy that is 5’9”.


90 posted on 03/25/2012 11:20:02 PM PDT by JohnRand
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To: Irenic

excellent research thanks


91 posted on 03/25/2012 11:21:46 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Irenic

The 1 - 10 days suspension falls into the level 3, but unauthorized area is a level 1. So, something isn’t adding up. It has to be more than an unauthorized area infraction. My guess would be assault (bus driver) or drugs.


92 posted on 03/25/2012 11:22:57 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Shelayne
"Is someone seriously (seriesly) trying to claim that this kid was suspended for being tardy? Good grief, they must think we are all idio"

First the (5-day) suspension was for fighting, then it was for being in an unauthorized area of the school. Now this. It just gets better and better.

93 posted on 03/25/2012 11:24:07 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Absolutely agree. I had posted this in repsone to another poster earlier today-

“Maybe he was walking back to his truck, and it wasn’t a back yard, it was an apartment walkway. Watch the local news report.

Furthermore, if Trayvon ran away from Zimmerman, why did he come back?

Could it not be argued at that point that it was Martin who was pursuing Zimmerman?

I think so.”

I have thought of another question as well. When martin noticed Zimmerman observing him, why did he run? Is not that suspicious behavior in and of itself?


94 posted on 03/25/2012 11:28:35 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Revolting cat!

It now appears that it was a 10 day suspension for being in an unauthorized area which MAY have had something to do with an altercation, possible assault, with a bus driver.


95 posted on 03/25/2012 11:28:35 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Jonty30
So question..if no gun..if the fight just ended..are you saying because Zimmerman follow martin...martin has the right to beat Zimmerman?
96 posted on 03/25/2012 11:30:28 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: Fred Nerks
I am waiting for La Raza or some Latino Coalition to step in and defend Zimmerman. The media will quickly go into radio silence for fear of disenfranchising the Hispanic vote for Obama.
97 posted on 03/25/2012 11:34:45 PM PDT by pterional
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To: Red Steel
If this goes to trial, the defense would use this which goes to the violent nature of Trayvon Martin.

And rebuttal would then get Zimmerman's previous aggressive incidents and stalking into the record.

98 posted on 03/25/2012 11:37:18 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: Jonty30
As I said, most of us, if we were in Martin’s place might have done the same thing under the same circumstances.

As I also said, if Zimmerman had made contact with Martin, from a safe distance, it’s unlikely any of this would have taken place.

If a town watch guy came up to me and asked questions, I'd answer then calmly. If he didn't accept my responses, I'd say "fine, let's get the cops here to settle this".

I doubt I'd find reason to beat the crap out of the guy.

99 posted on 03/25/2012 11:38:46 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: pterional
I am waiting for La Raza or some Latino Coalition to step in and defend Zimmerman.

I rather doubt they'd have any interest in defending a Hispanic who is half-Peruvian. And legal.

100 posted on 03/25/2012 11:41:43 PM PDT by okie01
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