Posted on 03/26/2012 5:07:25 AM PDT by SJackson
Wendy Dorival is Sanford’s volunteer coordinator for the Police Department. She helped train Zimmerman.
She stated that those involved in neighborhood-watch programs are supposed to be “the eyes and ears” for the police, “not a vigilante.”
Specifically, she said, members “are not supposed to confront anyone. We get paid to get into harm’s way. You don’t do that. You just call them from the safety of your home or your vehicle.”
She added that carrying and using a gun on patrol violates protocols.
That's
the point
of
Neighborhood
Watch
So ?
Would prolly be best to call your NW guy/gal and tell 'em not to worry about your place.
Better yet (ie with more 'sensitivity'), ask that they only worry about your place if it's being cased by melanin-challenged individuals.
Problem solved, yes ?
neighborhood watch does not tell its members to follow people.
It would tickle the cockles of my heart if the Revs Al and Jessie were arrested and charged with “Inciting a Riot.” AFIK that’s a felony in most states.
Oh, a tweet, I see. Thank you.
I have a high school aged grandson. He hasn’t been suspended from school but he knows kids who have been. One was suspended because he was smoking on school grounds, another because he was cutting classes, and another because he said “This is B.S.” in front of a teacher.
Assaulting a school bus driver seems a bit more serious. Were the police called?
Z was a community resident and perfectly within his rights as same to query M, an unfamiliar guest, in re his destination, etc.
Ideally in a cordial manner, and certainly in a non-physical manner.
But absent any physical contact being initiated by Z, even 'cordiality' has little, if any, bearing on the legal questions instant.
Bottom line is:
1) Z either broke off or lost contact with M and returned to his vehicle;
2) Neutrality button is ipso facto reset as a matter of both logic and law;
3) M subsequently ambushes Z and initiates aggravated battery on Z's person;
4) Z, in fear for his life, discharges his weapon, stopping the assault on his person and killing his assailant.
Imho, 'Stand Your Ground' is not at issue in this case.
It's a clear instance of self-defense, a concept not only codified in the laws of every state,
but with a long history of validity in the natural rights of common law for centuries.
Hmmm...There's a "Pandora's Box" they'll regret opening...
He shoiuld also get millions from Fox News and Shepard Smith, both of which have been absolutely despicable in their treatment of this case.
the black community are nothing but pawns who have forgot about which party signed civil rights, KKK etc.
It’s high time they woke up but alas sadly I fear that too may of them now have been brought up wanting Govt and then having a baby tantrum when all doe snot go their way.
yes..I’m aware of that.
I’m not arguing the legality of the matter.
I’m arguing against the practice of non-law-enforcement following people.
Another FReeper pointed out that NW are not supposed to be carrying a loaded weapon.
You seem to convienently overlook the fact that this guy was a Neighborhood CRIME WATCH member who’s volunteer job it is to WATCH for suspicious activity, NOT necessarily to be an eye witness to the actual crime. GET IT???? Probably not....
Notice you are really following this on many threads, any particular or “special” reason?
Carrying a gun doesn’t violate the 2nd amendment which trumps any type of protocol.
“...with the disolution of the U.S. and the individual States free to go their own way.”
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If the Kenyan is re-elected, this scenario becomes MUCH more likely.
If secessions do indeed occur at some point, it will be largely due to the now decades-long Federal government’s war on whites.
Zimmerman wasn’t on NW patrol. He had just returned from an errand in his vehicle. He has a state permit to carry a concealed weapon.
NWing from one's window is one thing, but imho anyone patrolling their neighborhood - especially in an area with a significant volume of recent verified crime - without some kind of weapon (and prior practice in its use) is acting with a priori foolishness.
NW suggestions/guidelines did NOT negate Z's 2nd Amendment rights.
So what suspicions do have of me? LOL.
As other NW FReepers have pointed out...you aren’t suppose to carry a weapon.
So what suspicious activity did Zimmerman report?
Other than a kid walking down the street that is?
ok, well now we’ve got another FReeper saying Z wasn’t even on patrol.
So he must have been out, sees the kid, and calls. Then follows.
While the racial agitators will likely not cause any riot outside of a black district in a city, where most of the destruction will once again be against black run stores and most of the victims will be black, it’s important to remember that *smaller* disturbances may reach into other communities.
In past, ‘wildings’ and flash mob riots and robberies were “outreach” against other people, but there seems to be something of a ‘profile’ of events where honest citizens should exercise a bit more caution.
For example, there was a black mob attack on the visitors to the Wisconsin state fair (Aug/5/11).
There was a different black mob attack on the visitors to the Iowa state fair (Aug/25/10).
“Flash mob” attack (MSM euphemism for a black mob in this case, though there are also non-violent flash mobs with no context of race or violence) have taken place in Denver (intermittently over a 4 month period!), Chicago, Milwaukee and Philadelphia.
Smaller scale events have been dismissed by local police departments and the MSM so as to not “tarnish the reputation” of the area where the attacks happened. These include Milwaukee, Bayonne, Greensboro, Cleveland and elsewhere.
Individual events of black-on-anyone-else racial violence are far too common.
For this reason, the public should remember that legal concealed carry is not just a right, but a responsibility to defend oneself and innocent people. So in circumstances and events where there is a greater probability of such attacks, it would be wise to be armed.
doesn’t that beg the question?
If anyone should be actively “patrolling” a neighborhood from their vehicle, with a loaded weapon....and if the neighborhood has had a recent crime wave....shouldn’t that person be trained law enforcement?
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