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Trayvon Martin shooting: George Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering his head
Orlando Sentinel via Sun-Sentinel ^ | Monday, March 26, 2012 | Rene Stutzman

Posted on 03/26/2012 8:43:45 AM PDT by kristinn

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Article has new information released, including the reason for the school suspension.

More details at the source link.

A Zimmerman family friend recently called on police to release more info about the case to cool things down. We'll see if this helps.

1 posted on 03/26/2012 8:43:55 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Thanks for the link. I’ve reposted the link on my blog.

This seals it. He WAS defending himself. As his friend said, it was either Zimmerman or Martin. One would live, one would die. Never bring a fist to a gun fight.


2 posted on 03/26/2012 8:49:43 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: kristinn
He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie.

Interesting. Other reports indicated that he had assaulted a school bus driver.

Eventually, the truth will come out. A lot of what is being reported isn't worth spit.

3 posted on 03/26/2012 8:50:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: kristinn

Zimmerman will go down for Manslaughter.


4 posted on 03/26/2012 8:53:06 AM PDT by Wizdum (My job is to get you to shoot soda out your nose)
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To: Peter from Rutland

This doesn’t seal it.

‘Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot.’

That negates any self defense argument in my book.


5 posted on 03/26/2012 8:53:24 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: ClearCase_guy
"A lot of what is being reported isn't worth spit."

I lost respect for LSM many years ago. The Duke Lacross didn't help. This case just sealed the deal for me. I won't watch any news.

6 posted on 03/26/2012 8:56:51 AM PDT by DeaconRed (I am the Only Daddy that will walk the line. . . . . . .)
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To: AlmaKing

Zimmerman then turned around and went back to his vehicle as told to do so and was approached from behind by Martin.


7 posted on 03/26/2012 8:57:28 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: kristinn

But how could such a helpless, young, 6’2” football player have been such a threat to Zimmerman? /s


8 posted on 03/26/2012 8:57:46 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: Peter from Rutland
Several witnesses heard those cries, and there's been a dispute about from whom they came: Zimmerman or Trayvon.

Lawyers for Trayvon's family say it was Trayvon, but police say their evidence indicates it was Zimmerman.

This is a new twist. An earlier report says that Martin's father confirmed the voice crying for help was not Martin.

It should be fairly easy to confirm the truth with voice match technology.

9 posted on 03/26/2012 8:58:51 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Peter from Rutland

Yep. Clearly self defense.


10 posted on 03/26/2012 8:59:02 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: AlmaKing

I was walking the other day and there were other people walking too.

If I attacked one of them... they wouldn’t have a right to self defense??


11 posted on 03/26/2012 8:59:02 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: kristinn
I don't think the facts, whatever they may be, matter any more. This is now political. The DOJ will assure that Zimmerman is convicted of something. Witnesses and local officials will be gotten to and will either say the right things or be discredited and silenced. Lord Obama has spoken. That's not to say that Zimmerman didn't do something wrong. It simply doesn't matter.
12 posted on 03/26/2012 9:00:19 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: kristinn

Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot.

This troubles me. Sorry, it just does.


13 posted on 03/26/2012 9:01:29 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: AlmaKing

“‘Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot.’
That negates any self defense argument in my book.”

I guess I don’t understand your reasoning here. He didn’t (at least from this account)attack Trayvon it was the other way around... Does him getting out of his SUV make him “fair game”?


14 posted on 03/26/2012 9:02:06 AM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: Vigilanteman

Very convenient twist if someone wants to prove a point. I believe the evidence points to Zimmerman yelling, the MSM can say whatever they want, post it to a thousand news sources and blogs, scream it from every rally - it doesn’t make it true.


15 posted on 03/26/2012 9:02:08 AM PDT by HollyB
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To: kristinn

Wow! It looks like all of Black America owes George Zimmerman an APOLOGY!


16 posted on 03/26/2012 9:02:35 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: GeronL
If I attacked one of them... they wouldn’t have a right to self defense??

If you're black and they're white, then they have no rights whatever. Have at it! /Sharpton

17 posted on 03/26/2012 9:02:52 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: ClearCase_guy

The truth is starting to come out about the media’s “model student athlete” victim.


18 posted on 03/26/2012 9:02:59 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: kristinn
From the article

A fringe group, the New Black Panthers, have offered a $10,000 reward for his capture.

Fringe group? How about hate group! And no mention that the poster said "Wanted dead or alive"...no bias here.

19 posted on 03/26/2012 9:03:20 AM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: kristinn
Zimmerman then shot Trayvon once in the chest from very close range, according to authorities.

I've seen reported elsewhere it was a 9MM semi-auto pistol. Surprised the left hasn't equipped the gun with a 30 shot magazine and "deadly" JHP or XTP ammo. Anything for the cause you know..

20 posted on 03/26/2012 9:03:25 AM PDT by IamConservative (Shall I try and perhaps fail or shall I do nothing without fail?)
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To: AlmaKing

This article has also been scrubbed? There is “404 - Not found error” trying to reach the Sun-sentinel We live in interesting times! Who has the ability to do this?


21 posted on 03/26/2012 9:04:51 AM PDT by tcat
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To: babygene
Does him getting out of his SUV make him “fair game”?

If you go on a safari, you ride in a Land Rover and see lions, leopards, and water buffalo. You do NOT get out of the Land Rover. You become prey when you make that mistake.

Law of the Jungle.

22 posted on 03/26/2012 9:05:18 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: Wizdum

Why is that?


23 posted on 03/26/2012 9:05:18 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Wizdum

[ Zimmerman will go down for Manslaughter. ]

I don’t see how. It was clearly self defense. Martin was trying to bash his head in after verbally threatening him.


24 posted on 03/26/2012 9:05:18 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: kristinn

Sun-sentinal is a lib paper. They try hard in the middle section to keep to the “innocent kid” meme (this is top middle of article, all set out by itself)

“Trayvon was an unarmed black teenager who had committed no crime, an innocent who was gunned down while walking back from a 7-Eleven with nothing more sinister than a package of Skittles and can of Arizona iced tea.”

but the fact that they do have a lot of info means that a lot of damning evidence is going to break loose in the next few days. It’s all done it’s purpose anyway - get blacks all riled up for the election.

They’ve done it with the women (Fluke) and now the blacks, watch a story come out that takes over all the news cycles about Hispanic immigrants. They’ve GOT to energize their radical base to keep Obama in.


25 posted on 03/26/2012 9:05:31 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: kristinn

Duplicate thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2863974/posts


26 posted on 03/26/2012 9:05:31 AM PDT by lonevoice (Klepto Baracka Marxo, impeach we much.)
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To: AlmaKing
In your book...

“Zimmerman will get lynched, as he deserves.”

In my book you should be ashamed to show your face on these threads.

27 posted on 03/26/2012 9:05:38 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: babygene

Apparently some pansies think getting out of your truck to follow a suspicious person is assault. or something.

There are FReepers who have followed vehicles after witnessing a hit and run so they wouldn’t get away and so they can describe where it is to the police. I guess those hit and run drivers have every right to attack them??

Hey get off my sidewalk, I was here first!! lol


28 posted on 03/26/2012 9:06:16 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: AlmaKing
That negates any self defense argument in my book.

Really. Based on what facts?

29 posted on 03/26/2012 9:06:30 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: AlmaKing

In Colorado this would be a legal use of deadly force. If the story is true. Even if someone initiates a fight, if that person then withdraws and makes it clear he does not want to fight any more he has the right to use deadly force if the other person persues him and he feels like his life is in danger. So if Zimmerman followed him or even had words with him that doesn’t give Martin the right to attack him. If someone was on top of me bashing my head into concrete I’d shoot him too and worry about the consequences afterwards. If the story in the article is true.


30 posted on 03/26/2012 9:07:03 AM PDT by albionin
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To: Vigilanteman
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Meanwhile, t-shirts are being printed up with gang letters.......

31 posted on 03/26/2012 9:07:12 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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T shirt sales are up, even this racist one

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/trayvon-martin/cracker-tshirt-759832


32 posted on 03/26/2012 9:07:44 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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Wow! This should cool the jets of the some freepers who think little Tray was an innocent victim of a 260-290 pound white man!

Did anyone see his friend Joe (I forget his last name) who appeared on the Today Show this morning? While Ann Curry furiously tried to get him to denounce Zimmerman, he defended him with class, style and intelligence.


33 posted on 03/26/2012 9:09:07 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: AlmaKing

So Zimmerman getting out of his evil SUV and following Trayvon is considered a crime? Can you point out which FL statute that falls under?


34 posted on 03/26/2012 9:09:07 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hypothetical Scenario:

Joe walks up to Jim.
Joe verbally antagonizes Jim.
Joe pushes Jim.
Joe punches Jim.
Jim finally responds. Jim pushes Joe.
Joe feels life is threatened.
Joe pulls out gun and shoots Jim. In self-defense.

Did Joe act in self-defense?


35 posted on 03/26/2012 9:09:39 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hypothetical Scenario:

Joe walks up to Jim.
Joe verbally antagonizes Jim.
Joe pushes Jim.
Joe punches Jim.
Jim finally responds. Jim pushes Joe.
Joe feels life is threatened.
Joe pulls out gun and shoots Jim. In self-defense.

Did Joe act in self-defense?


36 posted on 03/26/2012 9:09:56 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: Peter from Rutland

I’m glad that Zimmerman defended himself from this pot-smoking “black” THUG. He saved the Florida taxpayers a lot of money.


37 posted on 03/26/2012 9:10:12 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: ClearCase_guy
Yup, and the Lion is now dead.

Law of the Jungle.

38 posted on 03/26/2012 9:10:36 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: Wizdum
From a previous post of yours:

3. The evidence will produce the facts, however, the tapes, and Zimmerman ignoring the 911 operator NOT to follow, is going to get Zimmerman a Manslaughter charge at the least.

You are making things up. The 911 operator suggested not to follow, it was not an order. It is NOT against the law to get out of your vehicle. It is, however, against the law to bash someone's head repeatedly into a sidewalk.

39 posted on 03/26/2012 9:10:47 AM PDT by dirtboy
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That negates any self defense argument in my book.

Of course it does, you are on multiple threads trying to lynch Zimmerman as it is...Why should more proof of self-defense get in the way of your sophistry?

40 posted on 03/26/2012 9:11:10 AM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: HollyB
Sounds to me more like somebody got to Martin's father and told him to recant the original report which he made to police because it didn't fit the template.

This is why police do these reports a.s.a.p. after the incident.

41 posted on 03/26/2012 9:11:53 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: kristinn

Not doubting for a moment he received head injury and broken nose, but can someone suggest a reason why he would not go to a hospital for that? I’d be worried about possible hematoma, or passing out and winding up even more injured on the way home.


42 posted on 03/26/2012 9:12:05 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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And I’m paying to feed and house that arrognatly racist POS, and that 200+ lb female behemoth behind him.....


43 posted on 03/26/2012 9:12:14 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: AlmaKing
-- That negates any self defense argument in my book. --

So what? Your book is so defective, that you are ridiculed or pitied by those who have a basic understanding of the social contract.

44 posted on 03/26/2012 9:12:42 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: tcat
"This article has also been scrubbed? There is “404 - Not found error” trying to reach the Sun-sentinel We live in interesting times! Who has the ability to do this?"

The article is either still there or back up.

45 posted on 03/26/2012 9:12:46 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: AlmaKing

“That negates any self defense argument in my book.”

That is a very foolish statement in my book. (Do) You work with Obama?


46 posted on 03/26/2012 9:13:16 AM PDT by himno hero (Obamas theme...Death to America...The crusaders will pay!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“If you go on a safari, you ride in a Land Rover and see lions, leopards, and water buffalo. You do NOT get out of the Land Rover. You become prey when you make that mistake.

Law of the Jungle.”

I like your reasoning.

That means any suspicious person that decides to get out of their neighborhood and walk through mine is fair game.

Gotta go, I’m busy reloading.


47 posted on 03/26/2012 9:13:33 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: ClearCase_guy
Interesting. Other reports indicated that he had assaulted a school bus driver.

Yes, with an empty marijuana baggie.

48 posted on 03/26/2012 9:14:01 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (If my candidate doesn't win the nomination I'm going to kick my feet, cry like a baby, and stay home)
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He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie. Miami schools have a zero-tolerance policy for drug possession.

LOL! It was empty, so there is apparently a less than zero policy for drug possession!

49 posted on 03/26/2012 9:15:09 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: kristinn
More background on Trayvon here:

Was Trayvon a Drug Dealer? by wagist.com

Can't vouch for the site. I note it for completeness' sake. Site seems to be having bandwidth problems so be patient
50 posted on 03/26/2012 9:15:09 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Romney's judicial appointments were more radical than Obama's)
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