Posted on 03/26/2012 10:40:51 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
Common sense about the nation's immigration policy vanishes from the room whenever someone asks, "What part of illegal don't you understand?" It's a real conversation killer, that line. People who use it aren't interested in a discussion. They think law enforcement agencies should round up the estimated 11.5 million men, women and children who aren't authorized to live in the U.S. and deport them.
People fixated on the notion of illegality — the crossing of a border without papers — aren't interested in knowing why these immigrants might have come here, what hardships they experienced.
They don't care if the immigrants are employed and contributing to the economy in some way."What part of illegal don't you understand?"
They're not interested in hearing how immigrants support small businesses. Nor do they care that the undocumented pay taxes and contribute to the Social Security Trust Fund. (Stephen Goss, its chief actuary, estimated that by 2007, the trust fund had received a net benefit of at least $120 billion from "unauthorized immigrants," and contributions from undocumented workers now amount to about $12 billion annually.)
(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...
I’m up for a political discussion of why and how our immigration laws should be changed.
But our present system of fairly strict laws and very little enforcement is the worst of both worlds.
Yes. These statements are accurate.
One wonders if the author had any other questions?
Fake documents (like Obama's)
I'm not interested in why a bank robber robs a bank either. Isn't that terrible of me?
We have tipped over: the rule of law only applies to certain people, and has always-—but not to this extreme though. When we see the Government suing states, intruding into the the Peoples business there in Sanford (and a President, of all people, stirring up the muck), we have been punked. Can the road back be impossible? Unfortunately, the balance has shifted; our youth’s minds are nearly all polluted with the idea that everyone is equal-—no matter how visible and verbally inferior to their peers they be-—and the mean rich people are just selfish money-grubbing men who don’t care about the children-—says my teacher who knows everything, and the union control system.
Been there once and will never ever go back. Had a confrontation with a Pakistani there. We were sitting at an outdoor cafe and my dad has left to go use the restroom. The guy comes over and just grabs the chair and doesn’t say anything. My mom stopped him saying someone was using it. He literally threw the chair down and I really lit into him (I was in a really bad mood at the time). He got all threatening and I dared him to start something but he never did. I think a sailor would have turned beat red at what I told him.
And the drunks, crazies and bums. OMG. I will never ever go back.
How can one honestly claim that a system that allows more than a million LEGAL immigrants a year for at least a decade and over 900,000 a year for the preceding decade be called STRICT? Which are ever increasing historical highs! Do you drink that koolaid or do you serve it to others?
The 1st is from prb.org (link) and the 2rd is from the dhs.gov (link) via trivisonno.com.
Annual Number of Legal U.S. Immigrants by Decade and Region of Origin, 1960-2009 
baltimore is a sanctuary city? awesome!
i always wanted to know which city would provide me sanctuary... as i stop paying taxes to support the socialist agenda
oh, was that not they wanted? why not?
isn’t sanctuary ... sanctuary... against all ‘persecution’?
Baltimore is a communist city. Can’t blame the suburbs !
Our laws are strict mostly in contrast to their utter lack of enforcement.
There are pretty tough penalties in the laws, they just aren’t used.
"There are pretty tough penalties in the laws, they just aren’t used."
Which is exactly why, when our immigration laws have so generously allowed 20 million legal immigrants a year in the past 20 years, a discussion of how those laws can be made less "strict" is irrational. The only thing needed is serious enforcement against the tens of millions who see that generosity as in invitation to ignore our laws.
Nowhere have I said that I would like to see changes made to make the laws less strict. I would actually support more strict laws.
However, if they aren’t going to be enforced, what laws we have is pretty much irrelevant.
Obviously, we haven’t allowed 20M immigrants per year for 20 years. Possibly 20M total in that time.
Which is far more than any other nation allows.
Why should we care why people don’t follow the law?
Today illegals make up 10% of Marylands population and growing rapidly due to the sanctuary policies . While the millionaires tax has run off Md’s wealthest residents . 0’Malley is now aiming to chase out two other groups of tax payers ,,, those making 100k and 500k ,,, leaving the bulk of revenues to be paid by the middle and poor classes .
As usual, an MSMer has it bassackwards.
I’m glad we actually agree. Going only by your 1st post, I didn’t think so. (You’re correct that I meant 20 million in 20 years.)
Why does the author have a problem with this?
Maryland "Freak State" PING!
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