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Lincoln Hall, mountaineer left on Everest, dies
Associated Press ^ | 3/21/12 | AP

Posted on 03/26/2012 10:54:55 AM PDT by GSWarrior

SYDNEY (AP) — Mountaineer Lincoln Hall, who was rescued a day after being given up for dead near the summit of Everest in 2006, died Wednesday of cancer in Australia. He was 56.

Hall reached the peak of the world's highest mountain but became gravely ill from oxygen deprivation during the descent. His guides helped him initially then left to save their own lives.

American guide Daniel Mazur, his two clients and a Sherpa guide were just two hours from the 29,035-foot peak on the morning of May 26 when they came across Hall, who had been left alone a day earlier.

"I was shocked to see a guy without gloves, hat, oxygen bottles or sleeping bag at sunrise at 28,200 feet height, just sitting up there," Mazur told The Associated Press days after the rescue.

Mazur said Hall's first words to him were: "I imagine you are surprised to see me here."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: everest; mountaineering

1 posted on 03/26/2012 10:55:06 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

Man, what an effort in his last days.

I hope it brought him some peace.


2 posted on 03/26/2012 10:56:38 AM PDT by greywar
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To: GSWarrior
"I imagine you are surprised to see me here."

This is why I love Australians!

3 posted on 03/26/2012 10:59:37 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: GSWarrior

RIP.


4 posted on 03/26/2012 11:00:19 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj
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To: greywar

His plight was featured on that “I Shouldn’t Be Alive Show.” recently.


5 posted on 03/26/2012 11:01:12 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

I will have to see if I can find it online. Thanks!


6 posted on 03/26/2012 11:02:26 AM PDT by greywar
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To: GSWarrior

Idiotic headline.


7 posted on 03/26/2012 11:06:37 AM PDT by bgill
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To: GSWarrior
Hall's dramatic rescue on Everest left Mazur and his team too exhausted to resume their climb, but he said he had no regrets.

"You can always go back to the summit but you only have one life to live," Mazur told AP in 2006. "If we had left the man to die, that would have always been on my mind. ... How could you live with yourself?"

God said: you thought you were going to finish your climb on Everest today?

Sorry, I'm going to need you to save someone's life instead!

8 posted on 03/26/2012 11:09:41 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: GSWarrior

There are in the neighborhood of 200 dead bodies on Everest. Rob Hall, one of the all time great Everest guides, died near the crest. There is no way to move/remove bodies above a certain altitude [i.e.: the death zone’—26,000 ft and higher]. There is barely enough oxygen to haul one’s own body around; nobody can move a corpse under those conditions.


9 posted on 03/26/2012 11:09:41 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: greywar

He died doing what he loved and saw the greatest sunrise of his life. Whenever I’m close to the Grand Canyon, my GF and I just sit there at 5 am and wait for the sunrise to hit the mountains.


10 posted on 03/26/2012 11:12:30 AM PDT by max americana
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To: GSWarrior

Evidently his climbing partners weren’t Marines.


11 posted on 03/26/2012 11:17:21 AM PDT by MistrX
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To: max americana

Unless I read it wrong, the Everest rescue was in 2006. The mountain didn’t get this brave and plucky man, cancer did.


12 posted on 03/26/2012 11:20:21 AM PDT by LifePath
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To: bgill

It makes it sound like he died on ‘Chomolungma’ (Everest).


13 posted on 03/26/2012 11:22:26 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Fantasywriter

I love reading about climbing expeditions.


14 posted on 03/26/2012 11:23:55 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

RIP Lincoln Hall.


15 posted on 03/26/2012 11:25:53 AM PDT by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: GSWarrior

The problem here is that climbing Everest has become part of a lot of rich guys’ bucket list.

So they hire guides and learn some minimal mountaineering and basically get hauled up the mountain. These are not climbers, they are tourists.

Obviously tourists on Everest is dangerous. It’s hairy enough for real climbers.

BTW, I have no idea if this guy falls into the tourist category, just that many do.


16 posted on 03/26/2012 11:42:25 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Fantasywriter
There is no way to move/remove bodies above a certain altitude [i.e.: the death zone’—26,000 ft and higher]. There is barely enough oxygen to haul one’s own body around; nobody can move a corpse under those conditions.

On the other hand, that's 200 meat caches if you're short on supplies...

Okay, I'm kidding. I'M KIDDING!!!

17 posted on 03/26/2012 11:44:27 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Sherman Logan
I don't think he was tourist.

But you are correct....anyone with enough money can pay someone to haul them up and down Everest.

18 posted on 03/26/2012 11:47:50 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: GSWarrior

I keep vowing to read Into Thin Air, but at the same time I keep putting it off. It seems so tragic, the way Rob and the others died. The guide who looked out for Number One made it down fine, but died a few years later on an even riskier Himalayan peak.

You’re right, though. It’s some of the most fascinating reading in the world. Some of the dead bodies on Everest have never been found, such as Mallory’s partner. They likely never will be.


19 posted on 03/26/2012 11:47:50 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
Into Thin Air is a very exciting and harrowing. Are you referring to Sergei Boukrev (sp?), who claims he was misrepresented in Krakaur's account.

I recently finished reading Touching The Void. Amazing story!

20 posted on 03/26/2012 11:51:58 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: bgill

True, the headline makes it sound like he died on Everest. Instead he died of mesothelioma, completely unrelated to his harrowing adventure.


21 posted on 03/26/2012 11:52:49 AM PDT by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: Fantasywriter
There is barely enough oxygen to haul one’s own body around; nobody can move a corpse under those conditions.

Absolutely true. A lot of people think they would try to rescue others up there, but if they were up there, I am almost positive they could not, even if they wanted to, for the reasons you describe. Remind me, never to go mountain climbing.

22 posted on 03/26/2012 11:53:14 AM PDT by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: max americana
Whenever I’m close to the Grand Canyon, my GF and I just sit there at 5 am and wait for the sunrise to hit the mountains.

Reminds me of my first trip there. My cousin had her then infant with her and she woke up very early that morning and woke me up too. So I decided to watch the sunrise. Dang near blinded my sleepy eyes when it peeked above the horizon.

23 posted on 03/26/2012 11:55:12 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Fantasywriter
Into Thin Air is a terrific read. It's gripping and chock full of detail. It makes you want to climb Everest even as it makes want to want to steer clear of it.
24 posted on 03/26/2012 11:58:41 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: GSWarrior

I haven’t read Into Thin Air, but I have read several detailed discussions re: the other guide’s supposed misrepresentation. None of his disputed points changes one scintilla of the way Thin Air depicts him. He did the job of a climber, while Rob did the job of a guide.


25 posted on 03/26/2012 12:01:34 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
IMO, Krakauer did no disservice to Boukrev. Krakaur was simply telling the story as he saw it. I saw no evidence of a hidden agenda.

Boukrev told his version of story in The Climb, but I have not read it.

26 posted on 03/26/2012 12:06:34 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Sherman Logan
So they hire guides and learn some minimal mountaineering and basically get hauled up the mountain

And on the primary route they travel, there are already guide ropes and ladders intalled......

27 posted on 03/26/2012 12:11:09 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No matter what you post here, someone's going to get pissed off......)
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To: MistrX

Well put. Semper Fidelis.


28 posted on 03/26/2012 12:11:21 PM PDT by Gulf War One
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To: Hot Tabasco

Everest is very dangerous, but it is not a particularly technical climb. Doesn’t require much skill, just conditioning and stamina.

That said, any mountain close to that height is extremely dangerous simply because of weather and altitude.


29 posted on 03/26/2012 12:14:43 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Mark17

“Absolutely true. A lot of people think they would try to rescue others up there, but if they were up there, I am almost positive they could not, even if they wanted to, for the reasons you describe. Remind me, never to go mountain climbing.”

Perhaps this is a sufficient reminder?

“The case of Hannelore Schmatz is an infamous one. On October 2, 1979, after a successful summit, and for reasons unclear, she died of exhaustion 100 meters short of reaching Camp IV. For years, any climber attempting the southern route could see her body, sitting, leaning against her backpack with her eyes open and brown hair blowing in the wind. Despite being so exposed and so visible along the well-trodden climbing route, rescue operations are virtually suicidal in the Death Zone. A Nepalese police inspector and a Sherpa who tried to recover Hannelore’s body in 1984 both fell to their deaths. It was finally high winds that blew her remains over the edge and down the Kangshung face.”

http://godheadv.blogspot.com/2010/04/abandoned-on-everest.html


30 posted on 03/26/2012 12:16:10 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Sherman Logan
"Mount Everest....forbidding...aloof...terrifying....the mountain with the biggest t--s in the world."

*Clang* Start again!


31 posted on 03/26/2012 12:20:07 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: GSWarrior

That is the way I see it, too. Krakauer did meticulous research and interviewed everyone involved who would talk. He admits that oxygen deprivation makes it difficult to remember ever detail concisely. But he wrote the most factual acct he could, and nothing has turned up in the meantime to dispute any of his principle points. I read the other guide’s rebuttal, and there was nothing of substance in it. He did exactly what Krakauer said he did; in fact, his only issue is w the reasons he did things. I.e.: he asserts laudable motives for his actions, but doesn’t dispute the actions themselves.


32 posted on 03/26/2012 12:24:02 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: ConservativeTeen

................Instead he died of mesothelioma................

Well, no wonder he had an oxygen problem while climbing!

Maybe he should have called:

“Hi I’m Dave, and I have mesothelioma”, then called the hurt line so some ambulance chasers could earn another 1/3rd of his settlement!


33 posted on 03/26/2012 12:33:31 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Fantasywriter

Read The Climb, by Anatoli Bourkeev instead. Much better read and closer to the facts.


34 posted on 03/26/2012 12:58:36 PM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: GSWarrior

“I love reading about climbing expeditions.”

In my younger day I did, but now I just think about how utterly selfish the entire process is. A climber deprives his family and friends of his time and presence during the preparation for a climb of Everest/K2, and so many of these teams just don’t care that at least one of their party is pretty sure to die on each ascent. And for what? To say they climbed Everest? I was proud of this man who said, “I couldn’t live with myself if I passed him by”, as MULTIPLE other climbing groups do.


35 posted on 03/26/2012 1:02:45 PM PDT by jagusafr ("Write in Palin and prepare for war...")
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To: Raebie

Here’s an Amazon review of the book you may find interesting. I certainly did:

“This review is from: The Climb: Tragic Ambitions on Everest (Mass Market Paperback)
The debate that still rages over the relative credibility of the various books written about the 1996 Everest disaster is remarkable both for its intensity and its longevity. The fact that people are still arguing passionately about what happened nearly four years ago is kind of mind boggling. I’ve been following the debate from the sidelines ever since the summer of 1996, and I read both “The Climb” (TC) and “Into Thin Air” (ITA) as soon as they came out. Since then I’ve read almost all the other books about the tragedy as well. And recently I read the new expanded 1999 paperback editions of TC and ITA, each of which has been revised throughout, and each of which has a lengthy new postscript that answers charges made by the other book. If you have more than a passing interest in Everst 96, you will want to read both these new editions, even if, like me, you already read the first editions. The new dueling postscripts are mandatory reading if you want to have a better understanding of what happened. In my opinion, the truth lies somewhere betweeen the Krakauer account and the Boukreev/DeWalt account, although I think ITA is by far the better (and more believable) book. You, however, might feel differently. Read both new editions and decide for yourself.
All of the different Everest books offer slightly different versions of the same events. This probably shouldn’t surprise anybody, considering the effects of altitude and extreme stress on memory. I generally give Krakauer the benefit of the doubt over the other books, though, because he was the only author who took detailed notes while he was on the mountain (a widely respected reporter and mountaineer, he was sent to Everest specifically to document the 1996 climbing season). Krakauer was also the only one of the Everest authors who took the time to interview virtually all the major and minor players in the tragedy, so his book has a thoroughness that is lacking in the other Everest books. The other books, including TC, will be much easier to follow if you’ve read ITA first. ITA provides crucial background that’s missing from the other books, and seems carefully researched and relatively balanced in a way the other books do not.

Which is not to say that ITA isn’t flawed. Krakauer wrote it when he was still greatly troubled by the tragedy, and the book clearly shows his raw emotional state. This gave ITA much of its stunning literary power (it is incredibly riveting to read!) but it also probably skewed Krakauer’s objectivity. I think maybe he wrote more harshly about Sandy Hill Pittman and Boukreev than was necessary.

One thing that struck me is that ITA and TC are actually in agreement about most major points. ABout the only points where they diverge seriously is over the wisdom of guiding without oxygen, and whether or not Boukreev had permission from Fischer to descend ahead of his clients. On this latter point, Krakauer makes a pretty convincing argument that Boukreev didn’t have permission, but I think he was wrong not to give Boukreev the benefit of the doubt. I am prepared to take Boukreev’s word on this one, despite plausible evidence to the contrary. Ultimately it’s not really that improtant whether Boukreev asked permission or not before he went down. It probably wasn’t such a wise idea, with or without permission, but Boukreev later more than made up for it by saving the lvies of Pittman and Charlotte Fox. So I think Krakauer was wrong to make a bid deal about this.

But DeWalt makes an even bigger deal about this same issue, and thereby reveals himself to be an overly zealous advocate. TC barely even pretends to be balanced or even-handed. DeWalt writes in the style of a foaming-at-the-mouth defense attorney, less concerned with the truth than winning an acquittal for his client. He makes use of bombast and self-righteous indignation to appeal to his readers on an emotional level—the journalistic equivalent of “If the glove does not fit, you must acquit!” DeWalt presents the facts very selectively, and occasionally twists them outright, in order to build the strongest case he possibly can, hoping to make Boukreev look infallible and Krakauer look like a liar. The problem is, it’s not a particularly believable strategy if you stop and consider everything logically, without emotion.

Boukreev is portrayed as a hero in both books (albeit an imperfect hero in ITA). Like other reviewers here, however, I thought DeWalt’s overstated advocacy in TC actually did more to hurt Boukreev than help him. Krakauer correctly points out that DeWalt was surprisingly careless with his research and fact checking. Plus, DeWalt doesn’t have much natural talent as a writer (to put it charitably), which also hurts Boukreev’s cause. I wholeheartedly agree with those other reviewers who wish Boukreev had chosen a more skilful and scrupulous author to tell his story for him. As I said, however, these are simply my opinions. I urge you to read both books for yourself and make up your own mind.”

http://www.amazon.com/Climb-Tragic-Ambitions-Everest/dp/0312206372


36 posted on 03/26/2012 2:16:04 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Gulf War One; MistrX

I don’t remember the exact quote any longer, but your exchange reminds me of something attributed to Capt. Henry “Hammerin’ Hank” Elrod at Wake Island. With only 4 beat up F4F Wildcats to take on the Japanese Navy, the Wake Marines had no armor piercing bombs, only 100lb. high explosives. When his commanding officer informed Elrod that it would be impossible to sink warships with 100lb. bombs, Elrod responded something to the effect of “the impossible just takes a little longer”.
He then proceeded to target a Japanese Destroyer’s loaded depth charge rack and, with a 100 lb. bomb, achieved the impossible.


37 posted on 03/26/2012 2:26:23 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Oberon

Yep, freeze dried corpse to go with one’s veggies.


38 posted on 03/26/2012 4:12:16 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: GSWarrior

You may already know about this webcam. Some mos ago it featured simply breathtaking views of Everest. Since then it’s been plagued w technical difficulties. It’s up and running today w pics of Mt. Nuptse. Still quite magnificent, but you wonder how long until the screen goes gray again:

http://www.evk2cnr.org/WebCams/PyramidOne/everest-webcam.html


39 posted on 03/27/2012 8:02:47 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

I know about it, but I had forgotten about it. Thanks.


40 posted on 03/27/2012 8:57:23 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: max americana
Whenever I’m close to the Grand Canyon, my GF and I just sit there at 5 am and wait for the sunrise to hit the mountains.

It's a thing of incredible beauty. I brought my mom for a stay on the grounds there for her first visit. She was thrilled at 75 to see and experience it.

All that plus you stand a pretty good chance of survival...

41 posted on 05/23/2012 5:49:59 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Caipirabob

My uncle started that tradition. He was a long haul trucker for many years and if he’s on the NV, CO borders and within range, he would do it. Park his rig, with his coffee and have his breakfast while the sun peaked slowly over the range.

I don’t know about you, but everyone was quiet when the sun hits your face. Everyone knew to shut up and enjoy the feeling of being alive..(even my talkative GF)


42 posted on 05/23/2012 7:58:57 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Sherman Logan

what was that Joe Krahower (sp?) book...”Into Thin Air”....told the story of mulitple climbing expeditions with the richie rich buying access with limited skills...


43 posted on 05/23/2012 8:04:40 PM PDT by cherry
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To: max americana

LOL! I lived in SoFlo for over 20 years and Arizona the past couple. It doesn’t surprise me, I think the folks out here in this part of the country are very courteous compared to the NE and SoFlo where I lived most of my life. The people out here are very encouraging to me for the future of our nation. The only thing I miss from SoFlo is the family, food and somewhat cooler summers.


44 posted on 05/24/2012 4:41:53 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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