Skip to comments.Witnesses Back Up Zimmerman's Account Of Attack In Trayvon Martin Shooting, Police Say
Posted on 03/27/2012 5:32:25 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the neighborhood watch volunteer who eventually shot to death the unarmed 17-year-old, then climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times, leaving him bloody and battered, authorities told The Orlando Sentinel.
That is the account Zimmerman gave police, and much of it has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities said.
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Brilliant post! Let’s use your logic...
I’ve never been raped in my life, therefore rape never happens! Or, if it does, it is the fault of the person being raped because CLEARLY they put themselves in a bad situation.
When it does happen, just refer back to the Zimmerman story/incident. It will be a carbon copy of how the Zimmerman story/incident played out. Particularly if the mob participants happen to be Black. I have yet to hear of a White or Hispanic “flash mob”. Not saying they don’t exist. I just haven’t heard of them.
Have you been drinking this morning? You are incoherent.
Martin “retreated”... while Zimmerman was paying attention to him. But, when Zim turned his back and walked away, Martin attacked from behind.
Poor little innocent skittle eatin’ honor student.
“No the question here is what is the other hand doing? Why is the MSM focusing so hard on a month old story that truly has no legs? What is it that the other Obama hand is doing that they don’t want us to notice?”
Making deals with Putin.
Trayvon is missing the magic ingredient ~ no time spent in prison. If his record had included that Zimmerman wouldn’t even have known he was around.
I note that our esteemed leader, Barack Obama, has done nothing to address the “fringe group” New Black Panthers and their $10,000 reward on Zimmerman. The FBI (or some legal authority) needs to be protecting Z because of this and pursuing NBP legally.
Yeah, how else would you confirm that your life is in danger until you actually died?
If this is what happened, Zimmerman should walk.
All Martin had to do was go home. He could filed a complain that night with management.
Never bring a fist to a gun fight.
So, using your "logic", if I have a CCW permit and am carrying a gun, and someone pulls a knife and starts attempting to stab me, I have to wait until he strikes me with a lethal knife wound to be justified at shooting him in self defense.
You should move to England, your views on self-defense would fit right in there.
But here, you're just a troll, an idiot and a tool of the left. And a utter embarassment to FR. We defend the human right of self-defense here, not demean and belittle it.
“Maybe a few more thugs thinking that guy might shoot me if I jump him would be a good thing.”
An armed society IS a polite society.
An unarmed society is a jungle. All the biggest get to beat and have their way with the smallest.
(Any women on these threads defending that dead POS should remember that - cause you are pretty much always the smallest.)
This all makes a lot of sense to even the most hardened person if you imagine Zimmerman having his pistol out.
Any evidence Zimmerman was looking for trouble? Also just because you never got attacked doesn’t prove anything. Some people are never in car accidents, that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t wear a seatbelt.
geez you’re an idiot
why are you here on this site? It only seems to be to stir up trouble
you dont even contribute intelligent argument if you disagree with freepers
ADMIN - WHY HASNT THIS TROLL BEEN ZOTTED A LONG TIME AGO?
Trayvon was not a “bad seed.” He was another child not brought up properly. His “parents,” (apparently only in the sense of biology) stood there and watched the parade of suspensions and did nothing.
Your ramblings indicate too much LDS in the 60s!
>>I didn’t even get attacked there, and the armed Postal inspector who accompanied me didn’t even get a shot off at anybody.<<
Hmmmmm, I worked in Downtown Cleveland and knew people who DID get attacked there. Did you ever think that because you had an Armed Postal inspector with you, thugs knew not to touch you? You’re not thinking while you are trying to prove a point? Do you think that if someone jumped you and was beating your head into the sidewalk the inspector should just walk away?
Where is the 911 tape from Martin?
Holy smokes....are you for real??? Are you related to Traytray the thug?
I was going to respond to your adolescent drama queen intellectual posturing with an acidic drive-by snark, but given the fact that you’ve been posting here for over 13 years, you can’t be a 14 year-old.
Here’s some stock market advice - whatever you have invested in this story is lost, so sell - sell now!
Never throw good money after bad. Stop posting on this story.
I heard some audio of one of the NBP leaders claiming that “entertainers and athletes” had contributed to the bounty fund.
I’d really like to know which entertainers and athletes are involved.
When I first read muaijabi’s statement, I figured it came from that .org guy.
Anyone remember Richard Jewel?
The Duke lacrosse team?
Attn to my feathered black friends: Fly out of Florida immediately. You are about to be placed on the menu.
But but but....these are "his people".
You still have a way to go ~ the Florida law requires only that the eventual killer "perceive a threat of lethal force'.
Put those old standards out of your mind and move into the 21st century. Martin had only to observe this armed man following him no matter which way he went. He wasn't privy to the conversation Zimmerman was having with the dispatcher.
I suppose it's OK FOR YOU to devise a personal COAN that brings Zimmerman into view first, but it's Martin who was being followed ~ and who had a right to self defense, even to the point of inflicting lethal force on his tormenter.
I find it quite difficult to believe that so many fail to be able to look at both sides. Remember, Florida law does not require you to retreat. That was repealed.
I have been very very critical of Zimmerman on other threads. There is the first hand source of his 911 call that puts him in a very bad light as far as anger, frustration, hostility, adrenaline.
According to a UPI article, he told the police he had gotten out of his car to look at a street sign which is not credible - he would know where he was in that small familiar development. But as we know, there have been many inaccurate reports and he may or may not have said that. The first hand source of the police reports is needed.
So that to me is the negative side for Zimmerman.
In his favor, when he gave his account of the fight, he could have no idea what witnesses had seen or not seen and what they would tell police. It seems that his account is consistent with witnesses’ accounts. The problem is that the no witnesses saw the start of the fight.
Also in his favor, he did not pull his gun immediately in the fight. Maybe that is only because he couldn’t. But he is yelling repeatedly for help for quite a while, and then there is a changed yell - more anguished if you will and I am not sure whose voice it is. There is a loud bang that is not the shot. Then comes the shot. This is recorded on the witnesses’ 911 calls.
He should have never followed Martin in the explosive frame of mind he was in. He is morally culpable as far as that goes. But if it was Martin who started the fight then Zimmerman is not legally culpable. And again, no one knows if Martin perceived him as a threat or as an affront.
Trayvon would have been in prison soon enough. Over at this thread it comes out that school officials suspended him in October for graffitiing a locker. When the searched his bag, they found "Trayvons backpack contained 12 pieces of jewelry, in addition to a watch and a large flathead screwdriver, according to the report, which described the screwdriver as a burglary tool" [from linked article].
As more info comes out, I predict you're going to eat your words.
That's why "Mr. Ruger" is my best friend and constant companion.
I never thought of that. Perhaps the MSM are using this to divert attention from Obama’s failed record, but their main motives are ratings and prmomting political correctness.
None of this means that George Zimmerman is an innocent victim, however. He did provoke the confrontation.
No court would agree that you have a right to inflict lethal means of self defense when your “tormenter” is walking away, even if the tormenter is “white” and the “victim” is black.
Even by Zimmerman’s account, Martin did not attack from behind. He approached from behind, they had words, and he punched Zimmerman in the nose.
About 'tapes' ~ nobody uses tape anymore which is why we've been discussing the "recordings".
You simply do a google.com search for ZIMMERMAN 911 RECORDINGS and you should get well over a million references to peruse.
Earlier URLs on FR threads aren't all still live. There's been some enforcement of copyright here and there so the stuff we had on March 20 will probably be somewhere else.
This will be reported by the Obamedia in 5-4-3-2-never.
Pray for America
So, what would a court do in this case?
Guess what - if there were any reports of Zimmerman having his weapon out prior to a physical altercation or the CLEAR threat of a physical altercation with Martin, the cops would have arrested him. You CANNOT legally brandish a concealed weapon without cause.
So you have no proof that Zimmerman was trespassing, only your own conjecture that is clearly contrary to the facts we do know. You have NO PROOF that Zimmerman was brandishing his weapon at Martin.
Yet you continue to make such claims. While completely bastardizing clear conservative concepts of self-defense. And aligning yourself with the liberals and race pimps trying to make political hay from this event.
You are a real embarassment to FR. And you sure as heck ain't no conservative.
Sinbad is one name that I've heard.
You leaped to the conclusion (as that chill went down your back ~ the one where you realized you'd been found out) that Zimmerman may not be the model citizen you imagined him to be.
You assume entirely too much ~
LIAR. You tried to make the case yesterday that Zimmerman was trepassing. And then demanded your critics prove he wasn't.
So now you are adding bald-faced lies to your liberal repitoire. I guess you feel you can get away with it since that thread got pulled.
You come up with a witness............. nobody else has.
"It's all in the touch."
just walked home nekkid from downtown Sanford ~ his clothing having been left at the police station for forensic examination.
They give you sweats or scrubs to wear, or his family could have brought clothing to him.
My post stands unrefuted.
You have not made the case that Martin was justified in using lethal force in self defense against a person that was walking away.
10,000 dollar reward offered by that kind hearted organization for Mr. Zimmerman’s “capture” Yeah. Sure.
And you add a rank misunderstanding of the standards of criminal evidence to your routine as well.
Due to a one-minute gap, you are adding your own conjecture to make claims unsupported by actual evidence.
A prosecutor has no such luxury.
Is that what you "imagine" to justify your position?
By walking away? Or by turning around to respond to Trayvon the Thug (tm), who had approached Zimmerman from behind?