Posted on 03/27/2012 8:54:32 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies
SANFORD, Florida – A slain U.S. teenager and the neighborhood watch captain who shot and killed him exchanged words before the teen punched him in the nose and began banging the man's head on the ground, according to the watch captain's account of the confrontation that led to the shooting. [...]
A statement from Sanford, Florida police said the newspaper story was "consistent" with evidence turned over to prosecutors. [...]
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looking at your past posts it seems you have an agenda for defending Martin, even going as far as saying maybe he was afraid Zimmermann had a gun so that is why he attacked Zimmermann.
Yes the man has a gun so you go and run up and attack him
ARF
1. According to reports published so far, "the fact" is that Zimmerman never claimed that he "GOT PUNCHED FROM BEHIND AND ATTACKED" as misstated in your post.
2. Please reread my comment to you. It said nothing about Zimmerman doing anything unlawful.
Legal Hispanic Citizens like Zimmerman have received a real wakeup call from the left wing mediots, the race card racists like Sharpton and Obozo.
Any legal Hispanic 21 and older should be buying something to exercise his/her 2nd amendment rights.
It is obvious that legal American citizen Hispanics will not receive a fair trial if a black thug tries to harm or kill them or a family member.
They should remember:
1. It is better to be tried by 12 of their peers instead being in a coffin carried by 6 family members or friends at their funerals.
2. To vote for Republicans not the racist Obozo and his Sharpton/Jackson racists.
My "agenda" is the same as pretty much everyone's who is commenting on this case - to reason out a way that makes sense to them.
My agenda is NOT to paint one side as the villain just to prop up the other side's argument. The more I read about this situation, the more I come to believe that neither of these guys believed they were doing anything wrong.
I’ve just read your past posts and you have done nothing but try and defend Martin even telling me that he was no want to be gangster.
You obviously either will never get it or you don’t want to due to an agenda.
Others off here and on other threads have tried to tell you but you refuse and you use the same talking points as the left are so that begs the question why are you on here?
Also what state do you live in or come from?
Yea Martin was normal, so normal to you is selling drugs, getting drugs, calling himself no limit Nigga, suspended from school, photo’s show him acting all up.
Yea your world it seems he is normal, ARF
The horrifying thing about that is that it is a very real probability. There is a definite "Kill Whitey" theme out there for any perceived injustice. Witness Reginald Denny being yanked out of his truck and beaten with a brick.
I am applying the same criteria to Martin that many here have applied to Zimmerman when the media was dredging up his past - innocent until proven guilty. I am perfectly willing to entertain the notion that Martin was stoned out of his mind as Zimmerman apparently suspected. I am not however, ready to apply it as fact until the autopsy report is released.
I will say this again: It is not necessary for either of these guys to be the villain in order for BOTH of them to be innocent of criminal behavior in this incident. Or put another way, refusing to condemn Martin's handling of this situation does not mean that I must therefore be condemning Zimmerman's. It isn't an either/or.
You obviously either will never get it or you don’t want to due to an agenda.
See previous comment explaining my "agenda."
Others off here and on other threads have tried to tell you but you refuse and you use the same talking points as the left are so that begs the question why are you on here?
I've had some very civil and enlightening discussions regarding this situation with others here on the boards. My take on it has even evolved as a result. I haven't visited any left-wing sites and picked up their points but alas, there is no way for me to provide you with proof of that.
Also what state do you live in or come from?
If you truly read all the recent comments from my history, you would have the answer to this one. But for the record, I was born and raised in a very rural section of southern Alabama. I am pushing the half century mark. While growing up, my father was a herdsman for a cattle farm and my mother worked in textile mills -- which I also did after graduating high school. (Dad has since retired though he still does a bit of freelance farm work here and there. Mom is still working though now she helps build helicopters for the military.) Now, how does any of that have any bearing on my assertion that neither Zimmerman or Martin are villains?
Yea Martin was normal, so normal to you is selling drugs, getting drugs, calling himself no limit Nigga, suspended from school, photo’s show him acting all up.
As stated before when others were bringing up cr@p from Zimmerman's past - innocent until proven guilty. Some of the things you mention are speculation at this point; others are the same type of actions/mistakes that many, many teenagers make before they pull their head out of their @ss and grow up. They don't make him a villain or a lost cause.
Yea your world it seems he is normal, ARF
Almost all of us think of ourselves as normal.
That's something that Hispanics aren't supposed to be aware of.
Zimmerman is screwed for life...He wil not be able to surface for a long time...He’ll have to become someones responsibility to be taken care of...He cannot go get, or maintain employment...
With the race pimps out there looking for him, it’ll be a wonder if he even survives after he gets no-billed, if he even gets that...
Those people who put the bounty on his head need to be found guilty of something, because that is a terroristic threat at the least...But Holder won’t go after them or the broker of that $10,000 bounty...
Again, I’m not saying Zimmerman is free and clear...He screwed up, and he will pay, is already paying for it...
Just my opinion...
the acting police chief, the black cop just said here in FL , yes I am here that the case was handled professionally and that they see nothing illegal what Zimmermann did.
It’s obvious that you cannot get it and now even stating you will wait for the autopsy, er yes they’ll find Martin was shot LOL hell what else are you looking for, oh that’s right you think buying , selling drugs, suspended from school etc is normal.
Well I am wasting my time with you as you seem to like to go from thread to thread bringing up the usual left wing talking points.
Hopefully, this will be sea to sea wake up call for Hispanic Americans.
If they protect members of their family or themselves against a black teenage thug, they will be lynched electronically by the Obozo regime and their black racist thug buddies like Sharpton/Jackson/____________ fill in the blank!
And none of my posts to you have accused Zimmerman of acting illegally.
Providing Martin with the benefit of a doubt does not in any way, shape, or form condemn Zimmerman.
I always find it interesting that being mixed ethnicity is an issue for liberals, especially when they present mixed race relationships as part of their arguments, yet when an individual like Zimmerman is mixed race, there’s absolutely no sympathy. Either way, if someone ever figured out the liberal pecking order in identity politics, they would also be at a major loss for popularity right now.
no but you’re trying to say Martin was no wanna be gangster or maybe Martin attacked because he got scared that Zimmermann had a gun.
NOW if that is not in denial then I don’t know what is.
I’m wasting my time with you as other freepers have tried to explain things to you as well.
If I wanted to have this kind of debate then I’d have gone to the likes of the Oprah, Ellen, Today, Good morning America or hip hop websites.
Have fun on your next thread
Politely pointing out that it is possible that two people were equally suspicious - perhaps even fearful - of each other and that each reacted accordingly is not the same as taking sides against Zimmerman.
sigh this is not about taking sides you are trying to tell us that this wanna be gangster is normal and then tell us that he attacked Zimmermann because he was afraid and might have thought Zimmermann had a gun
That is B/S and you know it and it is really pathetic.
Our laws here in FL say you can shoot if you feel your life is in danger, Zimmermann did that.
Our laws here state you cannot attack someone, jump on them, go on top of them and then beat them just because you were afraid.
When the left took a few bits of truth - that George had once been arrested for battery on a law enforcement officer, that George had a concealed carry permit, that he volunteered (or to use more inflammatory phrasing-took it upon himself) to perform neighborhood watch duties, that George had logged dozens of calls to the police, etc., etc., etc. - and used those factual snippets to craft an image of a hotheaded, racist, wannbe cop with an attitude, people here were justifiably outraged.
Now, the shoe is on the other foot. And while that may give everyone an understandably satisfying taste of schadenfreude, sinking to that same level, taking a few factual snippets - like suspension from school over a baggie with traces of weed and photos of him cultivating a tough guy image (on vanilla sites like Facebook and Twitter no less) - and using that to turn him into a hardened drug dealer hellbent on a life of violent crime is equally uncalled for.
None of my posts to you have suggested that I doubt that George felt his life was in danger and acted accordingly. But unless you were there and know without a single doubt that Martin NEVER caught a glimpse of the gun during their verbal exchange and NEVER thought that George might be reaching for it when he was, in fact, only reaching for his phone, your theory about what might have led to him punching George is no more or less valid than mine. We're both just speculating at the motives behind that punch.
Additional information may yet be released that gives one theory more factual weight than the other. (I mentioned the autopsy earlier because those usually include tests for alcohol and drugs and if Martin's indicates that he was drunk or high when this happened, that will have a huge impact.) As of right now though, I'm inclined to see this as a tragedy for everyone involved.
Seems Trayvon had a Twitter account and he was no angel:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/is-this-trayvon-martins-twitter-account/
It is time for President Obama to show leadership by apologizing to George Zimmerman on behalf of ALL of Black America!!
“It is better to be tried by 12 of their peers instead being in a coffin carried by 6 family members or friends at their funerals.”
Wow. I never heard that one before.
Not.
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