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Police: Zimmerman story is 'consistent' with evidence in Trayvon Martin shooting
Fox News ^ | March 27, 2012

Posted on 03/27/2012 8:54:32 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies

SANFORD, Florida – A slain U.S. teenager and the neighborhood watch captain who shot and killed him exchanged words before the teen punched him in the nose and began banging the man's head on the ground, according to the watch captain's account of the confrontation that led to the shooting. [...]

A statement from Sanford, Florida police said the newspaper story was "consistent" with evidence turned over to prosecutors. [...]

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To: anglian

it does sound like he lost the “f***ing coon”

*****

Someone else thinks he says “freakin” goon” (goon is used to describe a thug) JMO.


101 posted on 03/27/2012 2:18:51 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: FreedomPoster

oH BOY..THEN LETS GET THE POPCORN!

there is no love lost between blacks and Hispanics.


102 posted on 03/27/2012 2:50:43 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (NEWT in 2012)
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To: Rooivalk

try to keep up..you’ve got the facts that we do know all backwards.

the dispatcher said” You don’t need to do that” He did not WARN Zimmerman. To which Zimmerman is said to ahve said, “ok’ and went back to his truck, according to reports now he was decked by Trayvon.

Try to keep up.


103 posted on 03/27/2012 2:54:59 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (NEWT in 2012)
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To: ExCTCitizen

(911 told Zimmerman not to follow him, but he did).

wrong!
Zimmerman did not call 911..he called the police or sherrif’s dept.

he was NOT told “on’t follow him”..he was told”You don’t need to do that”..after which Zimmerman said, “ok” and went back to his truck.


104 posted on 03/27/2012 2:59:03 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (NEWT in 2012)
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To: Keith in Iowa

“Facts are irrelevant. Evidence is meaningless. Zimmerman is guilty...”

Of course, he’s a “White” Hispanic don’t you know?


105 posted on 03/27/2012 3:09:34 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: manc

I have seen that sight....and yes others like it do likewise or worse....At one I noted the author consistantly blamed “The Republicans” for every ill the black community might face....and further how they’ve always been against black people.

It just doesn’t stop....and it’s not going to because the liberal mindset is to keep blacks in “bondage” to them, so no surprise they utilize the internet to promote and impress the minds who want to listen.

Just as in this Martin death....same persons like Sharpton and Jackson and Farrakan come to the front ...and this time also Obama....to fuel any incident that will give them the stage. Otherwise they’d be unemployed!

As some blacks have clearly stated.....the race issue IS NOT white on black.....but black on black crime.


106 posted on 03/27/2012 3:15:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: Lucky9teen

Bowbama and his mob are totally classless! Some of you might call that an understatement....


107 posted on 03/27/2012 4:55:08 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: USS Alaska
The special prosecutor, appointed by the gubbernor Scott is black.

As is the new police chief! Covering all the bases...

108 posted on 03/27/2012 4:56:42 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: USS Alaska
The special prosecutor, appointed by the gubbernor Scott is black.

Not true..she's white and Republican. .

109 posted on 03/27/2012 5:30:55 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Cboldt

If the facts support his assertions, I hope he sues the daylights out of these outlets!


110 posted on 03/27/2012 8:57:19 PM PDT by Shelayne
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To: manc
everybody has a right to their opinion...I have no problem with that....

what I do have a problem with is something called the LAW and of innocent until proven guilty...

the SCM has attacked this Z guy without one shred of proof that he did anything more than act stupid for allowing that kid to get the best of him and having to shoot him in self defense....

the kid should not be dead...its sad...its senseless....but Z is not necessarily guilty of anything and his life, the life of his family, and the life of people even remotely attached to him is being threatened....

where is the Justice dept in this travesty?....they really allow for mob rule?...for "dead or alive" posters?.....oh really?

111 posted on 03/27/2012 11:11:00 PM PDT by cherry
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
So....an Hispanic American kills a ‘Brother’, who was bashing Hispanic/German American Zimmermans head against the sidewalk( and ultimately broke Zimmermans nose), dies when the shooter manages to pull his licensed pistol which the dead guy was trying to take from him. it goes off killing the hoodie wearing, pants on the ground, thug....and the media pulls out pictures of the dead ‘brother’ from 10 years earlier like he was a sweet baby. and Sharpton and the left make THIS a cause celeb to ban guns?

EFFF U Al, Holder and FUBO...and your media lackeys too....

112 posted on 03/28/2012 3:37:36 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: cherry

I’ve just seen my local news this morning, now yesterday they had different people working and it was quite fair but today they had mostly black reporters who were so biased it made MSNBC fair-ish. sort of anyway

They showed people marching outside the DOJ in DC, We’re in north east FL, they showed SC marchers, they showed different places and their signs saying racist , convict etc .

The so called reporters had the usual photo’s of Martin aged 12 and some looking 10, their report was biased, but what struck me out of all that was at the end.

Seems they are being told to stop their bias, right at the end the two black reporters said go to our FB and we’re having a conversation about this and it seems some of you are saying that the photos of what we’re showing is not updated and that photo’s say a thousand words.

It seems some of you have a problem showing a mug shot of Zimmermann when he was much younger and the shot of Martin who is , well a little younger, here are some of your letters.

All saying that the channels is being biased.

My wife got form work yesterday and said everyone there is fed up of the news being biased and trying to convict this guy with no justice and that they have all put the updated photo’s of Martin and Zimmermann up on their FB.

Reason I state this is because I really hope the real message is getting out regardless of how the elected officials now are trying to stand next to as many black people are possible on their photo op’s or how biased the MSM is.

My question is where are the Hispanic groups to demand Zimmermann get a fair shake?
If his name had been Lopez or something then would we have seen the Hispanic groups out then?
Is Zimmermann the scapegoat for the left and the likes of La Raza been told to sacrifice him because he doesn’t have an Hispanic name and that they can use the MSM to twist this case to their advantage and stoke up the black community.

One thing is for sure the MSM , especially now the local channels are nothing but out and out liars who do not even try and hide their bias now, this is pure propaganda, something the left have been trying for for decades.

Health care, the air we breath, the message and now they are trying to take the energy over, communism in the making or at least full blown socialism.

How do you know we are right? When the left makes fun of what we say, look how obama made fun of the B/SC then look at how he was with the open Mic , look how the left has made fun of the word of socialism.


113 posted on 03/28/2012 4:36:10 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: Vaquero

the MSM have tossed out all their talks of being fair now.

The locals channels through out this country have done nothing to ask for the arrest of a hate racist group who has called for the kidnapping of an American citizen.
Hispanic groups it seems have been ordered to stand down and not go out and fend this guy .

Only GA, good ole GA has done anything about this group and where is my AG Bondi ?
Where is the police force of Sanford?
Where THE HELL IS THE DOJ AGAIN WHEN IT COMES TO THE BLACK PANTHERS AND RACE PIMPS?

Oh yes thew DOJ is being led by a race pimp and has put his other race pimps into the DOJ whilst the community agitator is giving out orders from his plane while heading back here.


114 posted on 03/28/2012 5:01:38 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: running_dog_lackey
Can he sue people (Sharpton) for stating that he is a racist murderer?

Steven Pagones sued Sharpton over the Tawana Brawley accusation, won a judgement, and never saw a dime.

115 posted on 03/28/2012 5:17:43 AM PDT by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: mac_truck
Not true..she's white and Republican.

I'm not so sure.


116 posted on 03/28/2012 5:54:31 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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To: newgeezer

AMEN


117 posted on 03/28/2012 5:58:18 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: USS Alaska

Which part are you unsure about.. she’s not white..she’s not Republican..or she’s not a she?


118 posted on 03/28/2012 6:00:41 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: manc
HE DID TURN AROUND AND HEADED BACK TO HIS CAR, HE THEN GOT PUNCHED FROM BEHIND AND ATTACKED

This comment is inconsistent with Zimmerman's reported statement to police after the shooting:

"Zimmerman told police that he lost sight of Martin and was walking back to his SUV when Martin approached him from the left rear, and they exchanged words.

"Exchanged words." Zimmerman didn't claim that Martin came out of the dark and sucker punched him.

Martin asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cell phone, he told police.

"reached for his cell phone" - that is again SUPPOSEDLY Zimmerman's own claim.

Martin, "Well, you do now" or something similar and punched Zimmerman in the nose.

Is it unreasonable to believe that Martin might have thought Zimmerman was going for a weapon. ESPECIALLY if he saw or caught a glimpse of the gun/holster as Zimmerman reached for the phone?

Neither of these guys have to be thugs, wannabes, or monsters for this to have played out the way it did. It is entirely possibly they are both normal people who misread one another's actions with tragic consequences.

119 posted on 03/28/2012 6:45:08 AM PDT by Reese Hamm
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To: Reese Hamm

if you cannot understand by now with all the facts of this , the police saying this was lawful and seeing what a want to be gangster Martin was from his witter account and FB then you will never know and it seems you going around on these threads is just wasting all of our time and it makes you need to get away form CNN, your local news, the Huff post , Ellen show, Oprah show, GMA and the today show.

Matin normal, what buying drugs, selling drugs, acting how he did, suspended 3 times from school

If that is normal in your world then are you left wing occupy?


120 posted on 03/28/2012 6:53:02 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: Reese Hamm

looking at your past posts it seems you have an agenda for defending Martin, even going as far as saying maybe he was afraid Zimmermann had a gun so that is why he attacked Zimmermann.

Yes the man has a gun so you go and run up and attack him

ARF


121 posted on 03/28/2012 7:06:46 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: manc
if you cannot understand by now with all the facts of this, the police saying this was lawful

1. According to reports published so far, "the fact" is that Zimmerman never claimed that he "GOT PUNCHED FROM BEHIND AND ATTACKED" as misstated in your post.

2. Please reread my comment to you. It said nothing about Zimmerman doing anything unlawful.

122 posted on 03/28/2012 7:15:51 AM PDT by Reese Hamm
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Legal Hispanic Citizens like Zimmerman have received a real wakeup call from the left wing mediots, the race card racists like Sharpton and Obozo.

Any legal Hispanic 21 and older should be buying something to exercise his/her 2nd amendment rights.

It is obvious that legal American citizen Hispanics will not receive a fair trial if a black thug tries to harm or kill them or a family member.

They should remember:

1. It is better to be tried by 12 of their peers instead being in a coffin carried by 6 family members or friends at their funerals.

2. To vote for Republicans not the racist Obozo and his Sharpton/Jackson racists.


123 posted on 03/28/2012 7:22:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: manc
looking at your past posts it seems you have an agenda for defending Martin, even going as far as saying maybe he was afraid Zimmermann had a gun so that is why he attacked Zimmermann.

My "agenda" is the same as pretty much everyone's who is commenting on this case - to reason out a way that makes sense to them.

My agenda is NOT to paint one side as the villain just to prop up the other side's argument. The more I read about this situation, the more I come to believe that neither of these guys believed they were doing anything wrong.

124 posted on 03/28/2012 7:24:36 AM PDT by Reese Hamm
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To: Reese Hamm

I’ve just read your past posts and you have done nothing but try and defend Martin even telling me that he was no want to be gangster.

You obviously either will never get it or you don’t want to due to an agenda.

Others off here and on other threads have tried to tell you but you refuse and you use the same talking points as the left are so that begs the question why are you on here?

Also what state do you live in or come from?

Yea Martin was normal, so normal to you is selling drugs, getting drugs, calling himself no limit Nigga, suspended from school, photo’s show him acting all up.

Yea your world it seems he is normal, ARF


125 posted on 03/28/2012 7:25:11 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: USS Alaska
What if she ends up agreeing with the Sanford cops and doesn't press charges? The black/black panthers will invade Disney World and kill all the little white kids.

The horrifying thing about that is that it is a very real probability. There is a definite "Kill Whitey" theme out there for any perceived injustice. Witness Reginald Denny being yanked out of his truck and beaten with a brick.

126 posted on 03/28/2012 7:38:18 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: manc
I’ve just read your past posts and you have done nothing but try and defend Martin even telling me that he was no want to be gangster.

I am applying the same criteria to Martin that many here have applied to Zimmerman when the media was dredging up his past - innocent until proven guilty. I am perfectly willing to entertain the notion that Martin was stoned out of his mind as Zimmerman apparently suspected. I am not however, ready to apply it as fact until the autopsy report is released.

I will say this again: It is not necessary for either of these guys to be the villain in order for BOTH of them to be innocent of criminal behavior in this incident. Or put another way, refusing to condemn Martin's handling of this situation does not mean that I must therefore be condemning Zimmerman's. It isn't an either/or.

You obviously either will never get it or you don’t want to due to an agenda.

See previous comment explaining my "agenda."

Others off here and on other threads have tried to tell you but you refuse and you use the same talking points as the left are so that begs the question why are you on here?

I've had some very civil and enlightening discussions regarding this situation with others here on the boards. My take on it has even evolved as a result. I haven't visited any left-wing sites and picked up their points but alas, there is no way for me to provide you with proof of that.

Also what state do you live in or come from?

If you truly read all the recent comments from my history, you would have the answer to this one. But for the record, I was born and raised in a very rural section of southern Alabama. I am pushing the half century mark. While growing up, my father was a herdsman for a cattle farm and my mother worked in textile mills -- which I also did after graduating high school. (Dad has since retired though he still does a bit of freelance farm work here and there. Mom is still working though now she helps build helicopters for the military.) Now, how does any of that have any bearing on my assertion that neither Zimmerman or Martin are villains?

Yea Martin was normal, so normal to you is selling drugs, getting drugs, calling himself no limit Nigga, suspended from school, photo’s show him acting all up.

As stated before when others were bringing up cr@p from Zimmerman's past - innocent until proven guilty. Some of the things you mention are speculation at this point; others are the same type of actions/mistakes that many, many teenagers make before they pull their head out of their @ss and grow up. They don't make him a villain or a lost cause.

Yea your world it seems he is normal, ARF

Almost all of us think of ourselves as normal.

127 posted on 03/28/2012 7:56:22 AM PDT by Reese Hamm
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To: Grampa Dave
It is obvious that legal American citizen Hispanics will not receive a fair trial if a black thug tries to harm or kill them or a family member.

That's something that Hispanics aren't supposed to be aware of.

128 posted on 03/28/2012 8:05:17 AM PDT by DNA.2012
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To: Steely Tom; All

Zimmerman is screwed for life...He wil not be able to surface for a long time...He’ll have to become someones responsibility to be taken care of...He cannot go get, or maintain employment...

With the race pimps out there looking for him, it’ll be a wonder if he even survives after he gets no-billed, if he even gets that...

Those people who put the bounty on his head need to be found guilty of something, because that is a terroristic threat at the least...But Holder won’t go after them or the broker of that $10,000 bounty...

Again, I’m not saying Zimmerman is free and clear...He screwed up, and he will pay, is already paying for it...

Just my opinion...


129 posted on 03/28/2012 8:22:35 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Reese Hamm

the acting police chief, the black cop just said here in FL , yes I am here that the case was handled professionally and that they see nothing illegal what Zimmermann did.

It’s obvious that you cannot get it and now even stating you will wait for the autopsy, er yes they’ll find Martin was shot LOL hell what else are you looking for, oh that’s right you think buying , selling drugs, suspended from school etc is normal.

Well I am wasting my time with you as you seem to like to go from thread to thread bringing up the usual left wing talking points.


130 posted on 03/28/2012 9:05:24 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: DNA.2012

Hopefully, this will be sea to sea wake up call for Hispanic Americans.

If they protect members of their family or themselves against a black teenage thug, they will be lynched electronically by the Obozo regime and their black racist thug buddies like Sharpton/Jackson/____________ fill in the blank!


131 posted on 03/28/2012 9:30:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: manc
they see nothing illegal what Zimmermann did.

And none of my posts to you have accused Zimmerman of acting illegally.

Providing Martin with the benefit of a doubt does not in any way, shape, or form condemn Zimmerman.

132 posted on 03/28/2012 9:32:41 AM PDT by Reese Hamm
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To: caww

I always find it interesting that being mixed ethnicity is an issue for liberals, especially when they present mixed race relationships as part of their arguments, yet when an individual like Zimmerman is mixed race, there’s absolutely no sympathy. Either way, if someone ever figured out the liberal pecking order in identity politics, they would also be at a major loss for popularity right now.


133 posted on 03/28/2012 9:57:24 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Reese Hamm

no but you’re trying to say Martin was no wanna be gangster or maybe Martin attacked because he got scared that Zimmermann had a gun.

NOW if that is not in denial then I don’t know what is.

I’m wasting my time with you as other freepers have tried to explain things to you as well.

If I wanted to have this kind of debate then I’d have gone to the likes of the Oprah, Ellen, Today, Good morning America or hip hop websites.

Have fun on your next thread


134 posted on 03/28/2012 10:00:31 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: manc
no but you’re trying to say Martin was no wanna be gangster or maybe Martin attacked because he got scared that Zimmermann had a gun.

Politely pointing out that it is possible that two people were equally suspicious - perhaps even fearful - of each other and that each reacted accordingly is not the same as taking sides against Zimmerman.

135 posted on 03/28/2012 10:33:02 AM PDT by Reese Hamm
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To: Reese Hamm

sigh this is not about taking sides you are trying to tell us that this wanna be gangster is normal and then tell us that he attacked Zimmermann because he was afraid and might have thought Zimmermann had a gun

That is B/S and you know it and it is really pathetic.

Our laws here in FL say you can shoot if you feel your life is in danger, Zimmermann did that.
Our laws here state you cannot attack someone, jump on them, go on top of them and then beat them just because you were afraid.


136 posted on 03/28/2012 10:48:23 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman,It's not a conservative view but a true American view)
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To: manc
I understand your frustration. The funny thing is, I don't think we're nearly as far apart as you think we are. :)

When the left took a few bits of truth - that George had once been arrested for battery on a law enforcement officer, that George had a concealed carry permit, that he volunteered (or to use more inflammatory phrasing-took it upon himself) to perform neighborhood watch duties, that George had logged dozens of calls to the police, etc., etc., etc. - and used those factual snippets to craft an image of a hotheaded, racist, wannbe cop with an attitude, people here were justifiably outraged.

Now, the shoe is on the other foot. And while that may give everyone an understandably satisfying taste of schadenfreude, sinking to that same level, taking a few factual snippets - like suspension from school over a baggie with traces of weed and photos of him cultivating a tough guy image (on vanilla sites like Facebook and Twitter no less) - and using that to turn him into a hardened drug dealer hellbent on a life of violent crime is equally uncalled for.

None of my posts to you have suggested that I doubt that George felt his life was in danger and acted accordingly. But unless you were there and know without a single doubt that Martin NEVER caught a glimpse of the gun during their verbal exchange and NEVER thought that George might be reaching for it when he was, in fact, only reaching for his phone, your theory about what might have led to him punching George is no more or less valid than mine. We're both just speculating at the motives behind that punch.

Additional information may yet be released that gives one theory more factual weight than the other. (I mentioned the autopsy earlier because those usually include tests for alcohol and drugs and if Martin's indicates that he was drunk or high when this happened, that will have a huge impact.) As of right now though, I'm inclined to see this as a tragedy for everyone involved.

137 posted on 03/28/2012 12:26:47 PM PDT by Reese Hamm
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To: All

Seems Trayvon had a Twitter account and he was no angel:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/is-this-trayvon-martins-twitter-account/


138 posted on 03/28/2012 1:19:38 PM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

It is time for President Obama to show leadership by apologizing to George Zimmerman on behalf of ALL of Black America!!


139 posted on 03/28/2012 2:41:06 PM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: Grampa Dave

“It is better to be tried by 12 of their peers instead being in a coffin carried by 6 family members or friends at their funerals.”

Wow. I never heard that one before.

Not.


140 posted on 03/28/2012 6:04:01 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Just saw a video on tv showing him just after the supposed pounding his head took. Barely bleeding,,,just a few drops. If his head was being continually pounded into the cement as he claims, I think he would have been knocked unconcious and bled some more.


141 posted on 03/28/2012 7:20:39 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

How severe Zimmerman’s injuries were is irrelevant. If he was jumped and knocked to the ground and hit repeatedly especially if it was unprovoked, and the last time I checked asking someone what they wanted and why they were walking around the neighborhood is not exactly a reason for someone to beat your ass, then he had a right to defend himself. There are still witnesses and the tape of him yelling for help.

Is there some law that you have to be severely injured before you can use deadly force to defend yourself?

I say let the investigation take place ...i mean the THIRD investigation considering two Police chiefs already reviewed it and didn’t see evidence for an arrest.


142 posted on 03/28/2012 8:11:23 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2619224%2C1)
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To: chessplayer

And looking at a grainy surveillance video taken when? Is not the full picture.
Zimmerman’s dad just gave an interview saying GZ’s nose was broken. I’m sure there is a medical report and photos of this. You just don’t lie about something like that. You would definitely have proof your nose was broken.


143 posted on 03/28/2012 8:26:11 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2619224%2C1)
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To: chessplayer

You mean that video of him AFTER the paramedics treated him and cleaned him up at the scene?


144 posted on 03/28/2012 8:31:52 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: chessplayer

Use some common sense. Assume he was knocked unconcious. How long would he have been unconscious and how long after was this video? Broken noses don’t always bleed, and they do stop bleeding. Can you tell if he has anything gauze or something stuff up his nostrils? The only thing I’ve heard tonight that might be out of the ordinary is the officers at the station were not using gloves so as to not further contaminaint the clothing.


145 posted on 03/28/2012 8:38:20 PM PDT by ironman
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
I guess Trayvon found his limit.

They always do. The question is only how many other people they manage to take down with them.

146 posted on 03/28/2012 9:05:16 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Thank you! I’m getting tired of correcting people on the point that Zimmerman was told not to follow.


147 posted on 03/29/2012 11:29:07 AM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: stevie_d_64
"Zimmerman is screwed for life...He wil not be able to surface for a long time..."

He's a "dead man walking". Can't show his face on the streets, would last maybe 5 minutes in jail or prison unless isolated.

"He screwed up."

That has yet to be proven with other factual and relevant evidence.

148 posted on 03/29/2012 11:40:34 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian; stevie_d_64
"He screwed up."

That has yet to be proven with other factual and relevant evidence.


Fact: he disregarded the dispatcher who said, after he answered affirmatively that he was following Martin, "Okay, we don't need you to do that." (A polite way of saying, "Stay the hell away from the guy.")

Fact: he disregarded Neighborhood Watch guidelines about not making contact with a "suspicious person" by leaving his car and making contact.
149 posted on 03/29/2012 11:52:49 AM PDT by aruanan
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Fact: He wasn’t performing his duties as a neighborhood watchman, he was on a personal errand. The police even cleared him of this supposed allegation of yours.

Fact: You don’t have the first clue about who made “contact” first or how it even went down. So, like many others have attempted to do, you’re trying to pass off speculation as “fact”.

What we do know for a “fact” is that eye witness testimony places Martin on top of Zimmerman, beating the crap out of him.

Everything and anything else that is not supported with FACTUAL and RELEVANT information is pure conjecture and speculation. Which seems to be a favorite hobby of many around here.

Any attempt by any FReeper to inject reason into this is met with it.

IOW, you appear to have mistaken me for someone who doesn’t give a $hit about the rule of law.


150 posted on 03/29/2012 11:59:11 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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