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Police: Zimmerman story is 'consistent' with evidence in Trayvon Martin shooting
Fox News ^ | March 27, 2012

Posted on 03/27/2012 8:54:32 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies

SANFORD, Florida – A slain U.S. teenager and the neighborhood watch captain who shot and killed him exchanged words before the teen punched him in the nose and began banging the man's head on the ground, according to the watch captain's account of the confrontation that led to the shooting. [...]

A statement from Sanford, Florida police said the newspaper story was "consistent" with evidence turned over to prosecutors. [...]

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: trayvon; trayvonassaults; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: Brown Deer

This family was all caught up in the thug life.


201 posted on 03/29/2012 6:49:29 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Rooivalk
Rooivalk,

I love you, man. I mean that.

I don't support Zimmerman just because Trayvon was black. Heck, I don't support Zimmerman at all. I only support the way the laws work, and those say he can't be arrested. In my opinion he was nearly a tactical failure as a concealed carrier. He lost situational awareness and was nearly taken out.

I don't hate Trayvon because he was black. I served side by side in the Army with all kinds of people. We'd have taken a bullet for one another. I served as a DC police officer. I had a black partner. We'd have taken a bullet for one another.

If you think this about race, think again. Nobody gives a CRAP what color skin Trayvon had, except the liberal race baiters. What we're talking about here on FR is that he was a wannabe gangsta thug.

Guess what? I know white wannabe gangsta thugs.

Can't stand them, either.

You're being played by the race hustlers to believe we whites are out to get blacks. I suggest you remove your head from your fourth point of contact, step back, take a deep breath, and realize that what we are doing here is defending the rule of law over emotional pitchfork mob mania.

202 posted on 03/29/2012 8:29:06 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: Brown Deer

So Trayvon Martin’s father hung out with “gangsta” rappers...?


203 posted on 03/29/2012 9:13:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Mad Dawgg
The problem is now the pot is stirred and like I posted in another thread if Zimmerman isn't found guilty the aftermath is gonna make the Rodney King incident look like a playground scuffle by comparison.

All the more reason not to convict (or even charge) him.

204 posted on 03/29/2012 9:30:49 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Brown Deer

Same person?

205 posted on 03/30/2012 8:20:44 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Rooivalk; SZonian
ABC News, which obtained the video and released it Wednesday night, said it shows “no blood or bruises” on the handcuffed, trim- and muscular-looking suspect as he steps out of the back of a police cruiser, is frisked by an officer and walks escorted into the police building.

MSNBC says different!


206 posted on 03/31/2012 5:10:23 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Jack Deth

Ya mean like this?

http://www.newsobserver.com/2006/04/16/57023/mother-dancer-accuser.html


207 posted on 03/31/2012 5:42:55 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Brown Deer
That's Martin. Here's another, same room

Tray's My Space

Bottom row, second pic is the pic they used for the memorial.

208 posted on 03/31/2012 4:01:09 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come.)
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To: Netizen

209 posted on 03/31/2012 4:09:09 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Rooivalk
This BS picture you post is not Martin.

Not him? Why does it match the one on his My Space page?


210 posted on 03/31/2012 4:20:05 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Rooivalk
Nor is there any blood on the back of his head as he first claimed.

From the police videos:


211 posted on 03/31/2012 4:22:35 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Total BS. What’s your point?


212 posted on 03/31/2012 7:31:07 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Brown Deer
And from the police videos there is no visual evidence of this "broken nose" Zimmerman and his supporters are claiming.

Meanwhile a couple of questions still remain unanswered:

Why haven't the medical reports concerning the so called treatment Zimmerman received on the night of the killing been made public?

And why have the autopsy reports on Martin been sealed?

Highly irregular on both accounts
213 posted on 03/31/2012 7:37:24 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Brown Deer
Whatever the provocation Zimmerman suffered at the hands of Martin one thing remains clear. Zimmerman responded to a physical altercation of fists and blows with DEADLY FORCE.

And any jury in the world will convict Zimmerman for use of a firearm to settle a fist fight.
214 posted on 03/31/2012 7:41:42 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Rooivalk

Head being slammed against the pavement is not a fist fight. That’s gone way beyond a fist fight.

That’s a life-threatening situation and who the f* are you to tell me or Zimmerman or anybody what the limits are to self-defense in a life-threatening situation?

Now, maybe Zimmerman is lying. I don’t know. I wasn’t there. Neither were you.

But one thing I do know is this: if Zimmerman is telling the truth, if it went down the way he said it did, then yes in f*ing deed he had every f*ing right in the world to use that gun.

I would have.

And so would you have.

And one more thing we know for sure: the police weren’t there but they are a f* of a lot closer to the action than you and me and they talked to eye witnesses and they didn’t arrest the HISPANIC.

What, are you saying that Florida police are partial to HISPANICs? That they never arrest HISPANICs?

Get a life, a-hole. You’re very, very wrong on this one.


215 posted on 03/31/2012 7:55:18 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman
All your name calling is not going to save Zimmerman as now forensic voice analysis is showing that the screaming heard on the tape is NOT Zimmerman.

Slowly but surely the truth is coming out.

The Orlando Sentinel got in touch with court-authorized biometric voice analyst, Tom Owen, to analyze the 911 tapes where either Zimmerman or Martin can be heard crying for help. (One unnamed witness has said it was Zimmerman crying for help.) His conclusion: It's not Zimmerman. After the Sentinel contacted Owen, he used software called Easy Voice Biometrics to compare Zimmerman's voice to the 911 call screams.

"I took all of the screams and put those together, and cut out everything else," Owen says. The software compared that audio to Zimmerman's voice. It returned a 48 percent match. Owen said to reach a positive match with audio of this quality, he'd expect higher than 90 percent. "As a result of that, you can say with reasonable scientific certainty that it's not Zimmerman," Owen says, stressing that he cannot confirm the voice as Trayvon's, because he didn't have a sample of the teen's voice to compare. Forensic voice identification is not a new or novel concept; in fact, a recent U.S. Department of Justicecommittee report notes that federal interest in the technology "has a history of nearly 70 years." Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/forensic-expert-its-not-george-zimmerman-screaming-for-help-in-the-911-calls-2012-3#ixzz1qkoMApXY
216 posted on 03/31/2012 8:04:56 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: samtheman
Head being slammed against the pavement is not a fist fight. That’s gone way beyond a fist fight.

And losing a physical altercation does not justify the use of deadly force as Zimmerman used on his unarmed victim.

Any fool will tell you that
217 posted on 03/31/2012 8:08:12 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Rooivalk

Attack someone and you just might get shot. It should be clear now for those who have bad intentions.


218 posted on 03/31/2012 8:12:05 PM PDT by Darryl Lecht ("Head down over a saddle.")
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To: samtheman
And one more thing we know for sure: the police weren’t there but they are a f* of a lot closer to the action than you and me and they talked to eye witnesses and they didn’t arrest the HISPANIC.

For your information the police namely the lead homicide investigator recommended filing on Zimmerman a charge of manslaughter and reckless endangerment. The charges were quashed higher up in the DA's office. Now people are saying that this short stopping of charges have something to do with the fact that Zimmerman's daddy is a judge

So what do you say to that?

What, are you saying that Florida police are partial to HISPANICs? That they never arrest HISPANICs?

No what IS being said is that strings were pulled to let Zimmerman walk. Now the authorities are taking a CLOSER LOOK at how Zimmerman was able to walk free

I say its about time
219 posted on 03/31/2012 8:21:25 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Rooivalk

Life threatening is life threatening. Period.

Getting your head slammed against the pavement, repeatedly, with no hope or expectation of cessation of such slamming is life threatening. Period.

In this case pavement is a weapon; it can kill you.

You refuse to put yourself in that situation and refuse to see how dangerous that situation would be and you end up with such seriously flawed logic as you find yourself here.

But this has nothing to do with logic, does it?
Nothing to do with evidence, does it?
Nothing to do with witnesses, does it?

Only one thing that matters to you: the deceased is black and the shooter is “white” (or what you and the entire race-conscious left-wing establishment has suddenly redefined to be white).

That’s all that matters to you. Race, race, race, race, race.

I know one thing about me and I know it with certainty:

If the races in this story were reversed and the incidents were identical, I would be still be on the side of “let’s wait for the law to play out and not act as a lynch mob”.


220 posted on 03/31/2012 8:22:56 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Rooivalk
Total BS.

Really how so?

What’s your point?

The photo came from his My Space account. Are you an ignorant moron?

or are you saying that those other old photos that the media used are also "total BS"?
221 posted on 03/31/2012 8:25:19 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Darryl Lecht; Rooivalk
Attack someone and you just might get shot. It should be clear now for those who have bad intentions.
And life-threatening attacks can come in many forms. You don't need a "weapon" to kill someone if you're slamming their head against the pavement.

Or, rather, the pavement itself becomes the weapon.

222 posted on 03/31/2012 8:26:44 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Darryl Lecht
A fist fight you are losing does not give you the grounds to kill someone with a firearm. Unless Martin was bringing deadly force to Zimmerman by using a weapon or knife or pipe or something like that, Zimmerman was not justified in using a firearm to kill this kid

And no amount of puffery by sad sacks like you Zimmerman supporters can change that definition of the law

Zimmerman was losing a fight. He responded to the a$$ whipping he was getting by shooting the person who was getting the best of him. Case closed
223 posted on 03/31/2012 8:29:18 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Rooivalk
And from the police videos there is no visual evidence of this "broken nose" Zimmerman and his supporters are claiming.

But there IS evidence. Just because you haven't seen it, what makes you believe there isn't?

Why haven't the medical reports concerning the so called treatment Zimmerman received on the night of the killing been made public?

Why haven't any of your medical records been made public?

And why have the autopsy reports on Martin been sealed?

Highly irregular on both accounts


What is so "highly irregular" about it?
224 posted on 03/31/2012 8:32:04 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Rooivalk

You weren’t there, goofball. Guess what, if you were to jump me, I would shoot you. Teachable moment.


225 posted on 03/31/2012 8:32:25 PM PDT by Darryl Lecht ("Head down over a saddle.")
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To: Rooivalk
Zimmerman was losing a fight.
It wasn't a fight, blockhead.

It wasn't 2 guys in a bar arguing over a girl or a football team.

IF it went down as Zimmerman said (and if he's lying, I don't know that and neither do you), THEN what he did was justified.

That's all I'm saying.

IF he ended up on the ground with a huge man on top of him, with said huge man pounding his head into the pavement, THEN he was justified in shooting.

Period.

He could be lying. If he is, then all bets are off.

But as of now, all we have is what we have, and that is that witnesses seem to have corroborated what Zimmerman said happened and what he said happened is he got sucker-punched (that's NOT a fight, asshole) and then jumped, and then proceeded to get his head slammed repeatedly against the pavement.

That. Is. Not. A. Fight. Asshole.

226 posted on 03/31/2012 8:37:48 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Rooivalk
Zimmerman responded to a physical altercation of fists and blows with DEADLY FORCE.

That's right, he had every right to defend himself from his attacker!


227 posted on 03/31/2012 8:38:38 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: samtheman
And life-threatening attacks can come in many forms. You don't need a "weapon" to kill someone if you're slamming their head against the pavement. Or, rather, the pavement itself becomes the weapon.

If Zimmerman was suffering such a "life threatening" attack then why did the lead homicide investigator recommend filing manslaughter charges against Zimmerman after reviewing the evidence?

Explain that. And if you think I am lying then just follow these links I am providing below

Trayvon Martin Investigator Wanted Manslaughter Charge - ABC News abcnews.go.com › US4 days ago – Trayvon Martin Investigator Wanted Manslaughter Charge ..

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-martin-investigator-wanted-charge-george-zimmerman-manslaughter/story?id=16011674#.T3fMR8Ugdu0

Detective WANTED to arrest Zimmerman after Trayvon's death but prosecutors said there was not enough evidence 'He should have been charged with manslaughter,' says Chris Serino

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2121352/Trayvon-Martin-case-Detective-wanted-arrest-Zimmerman-manslaughter.html#ixzz1qkwVuwnm

And there are plenty of links to this story saying that Chris Serino the lead homicide investigator on the case for the Sanford police department wanted to file

Now are you starting to feel like a fool for your continued support of Zimmerman?
228 posted on 03/31/2012 8:39:18 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Rooivalk

I don’t have to explain anything.

My words stand on their face value.

IF it went down as Zimmerman said, THEN he was justified in shooting.

Period.

That’s what I’m saying and that’s what I’ve been saying.

No matter what the initial detective WANTED to do or didn’t want to do (there are always disagreements between police officers and the police and the DA over evidence and courses of action, no?) the fact is that when they interviewed WITNESSES it seems that the witnesses corroborated Zimmerman’s account.

You want to concoct some conspiracy theory.

All I want to do is keep it simple, stupid:

IF it went down the way Zimmerman said it did, THEN he had the right to shoot.

Period.


229 posted on 03/31/2012 8:43:22 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Brown Deer
It must be getting harder and harder to support this wanna-be cop in this killing of an unarmed person when stories like this are starting to surface

Trayvon Martin Investigator Asked for Manslaughter Charge for Zimmerman Fox News‎ - 3 days ago

It is looking like strings were pulled to keep Zimmerman out of jail. Now lets say it all together Zimmerman's father was a judge with alot of pull Hi ho hi hi its off to jail we go
230 posted on 03/31/2012 8:45:50 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Rooivalk

That link to a “news” story in post #222 has, at the top of the story, a picture of a 14 year old Trayvon. The boyish picture that the leftist smear machine is out peddling to the world.

I saw that picture, I clicked away from the article.

I know propaganda when I see it.


231 posted on 03/31/2012 8:46:48 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman
I don’t have to explain anything.

That's because you cannot.

Go read the stories of how the lead homicide investigator wanted to arrest and file on Zimmerman and the arrest warrant was "suppressed" somewhere along the way. Lets hear you comment on these developments.

Lets hear you talk about how Martin deserved to die in light of what the Sanford police thought after investigating the killing.

God is watching and truth always has a way of coming to light
232 posted on 03/31/2012 8:52:41 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Rooivalk

The Florida Statute 776.032 expressly prohibits police from arresting someone who had a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily harm.


233 posted on 03/31/2012 8:54:47 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Rooivalk
Hi ho hi hi its off to jail we go

sounds like you've been there before?
234 posted on 03/31/2012 8:55:57 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Rooivalk

I don’t have to explain anything because I don’t want to step into the conspiracy theory inside your own sick and addled brain.

I want to stick with the facts.

The Florida Statute 776.032 expressly prohibits police from arresting someone who had a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily harm.


235 posted on 03/31/2012 8:55:57 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman
I know propaganda when I see it.

Is this "propaganda"? Or are you afraid of facing the truth about your hero Zimmerman?

Detective WANTED to arrest Zimmerman after Trayvon's death but prosecutors said there was not enough evidence 'He should have been charged with manslaughter,' says Chris Serino But state attorney overruled him, saying there not enough evidence

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2121352/Trayvon-Martin-case-Detective-wanted-arrest-Zimmerman-manslaughter.html#ixzz1ql15YJIk

Not enough evidence or an example of Zimmerman's daddy calling in favors?
236 posted on 03/31/2012 8:57:47 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Rooivalk

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2866572/posts


237 posted on 03/31/2012 8:58:01 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Rooivalk

Look, if it turns out there was a coverup of some kind, I’m all in favor of laws being enforced.

If Zimmerman stalked Martin and shot him for no reason, he deserves to be punished to the full extent of the law.

But there is no evidence of that. All you have is innuendo and hearsay and all the evidence of COVERUP seems to be evidence of the media itself covering up any semblance of the truth.

Check it out: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2866572/posts


238 posted on 03/31/2012 9:00:37 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Rooivalk; hoosiermama; maggief; little jeremiah; wtc911; STARWISE
God is watching and truth always has a way of coming to light
BTW I am Black



The mystery of the 7-11 and the Skittles


239 posted on 03/31/2012 9:01:21 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Rooivalk

And yes, it is propaganda.

When you post a baby picture of a thug, you are engaging in propaganda.


240 posted on 03/31/2012 9:01:28 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman
The question is did Zimmerman's father, a judge, pull strings to prevent his wanna-be cop son from going to jail?

That is what the world is discussing now. And answers will be provided as Zimmerman's story continues to unravel right before your eyes

Have a good evening as I have made my point. I look forward to what new revelations the coming week will provide.
241 posted on 03/31/2012 9:04:04 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Rooivalk

Just out of curiosity, do you ever wonder why the Martin story is global news and this story (not to mention a thousand others like it) is nothing:

http://crimeinchicago.blogspot.com/2012/02/ghetto-baby-shower-fyght-ends-in-death.html


242 posted on 03/31/2012 9:07:06 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Rooivalk
Have a good evening as I have made my point.

Would that point be that you are an ignorant racist moron?
243 posted on 03/31/2012 9:09:13 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

Rooivalk never makes any valid points. He just flings as much cr*p as he can, and hopes it will stick. We’re battling two more trolls here if you’re bored:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2866509/posts?page=264#264


244 posted on 03/31/2012 9:15:25 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Rooivalk
And losing a physical altercation does not justify the use of deadly force as Zimmerman used on his unarmed victim.

#1 losing a fight would be a great reason to use force especially if one didn't know the other had a weapon or not. Nice try

245 posted on 04/01/2012 12:54:07 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Anyone not wanting an ID or purple thumb to vote isn't worthy of voting privilege.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
Also Monday, an attorney for Martin's mother confirmed that she filed trademark applications for two slogans containing her son's name: "Justice for Trayvon" and "I Am Trayvon." The applications said the trademarks could be used for such things as DVDs and CDs.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/27/police-zimmerman-story-is-consistent-with-evidence-in-trayvon-martin-shooting/#ixzz1qqLJQwsl

Well, well well....this is from the article

246 posted on 04/01/2012 6:47:00 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Rooivalk

And another strawman goes up in flames. That you put much, or even ANY weight into an ABC article demonstrates a desperation and complete lack of credibility not seen much here on FR. Demonstrative of a troll who will grasp at any straw in a vain and desperate attempt salvage a shred of credibility.

Now you’ve gone from saying there are no injuries (now you’ve been shown to be wrong again) to your next strawman, the judge. Keep trying to move that bar loser, I’m not playing.


I want to see your sources that prove your SLANDEROUS allegations against the Sanford PD and Mr. Zimmerman that they were “laughing and smoking” after the shooting.

Either prove your allegations or retract your SLANDER, troll.


247 posted on 04/02/2012 8:57:45 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Rooivalk

No troll.

No thoughts on anything you have to post, other than waiting for your sources and links that prove your allegations that the Sanford PD and Mr. Zimmerman were “laughing and smoking” after the shooting.

Or a retraction of said slander.

Those are the only 2 things I’m interested in from you.


248 posted on 04/02/2012 9:01:50 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Brown Deer; Rooivalk
"BTW I am Black"

uh-oh...I sense a disturbance in the force.

Does this mean that a certain poster may not be objective, that the color of the protaganists "means" something here?

R, you are a blight and a disgrace to all good minded, honest and fair FReepers. You have yet to either prove your allegations against the entire Sanford PD and Mr. Zimmerman or retract them as a mistake.

That they were "laughing and smoking" after the shooting.

You act as if you never made them.

Your comments dishonor and sully the reputation of FR because you continue to refuse to accept responsibility for them, a conservative trait that is lacking in your posts.

I was viewing anything you had to post on the topic with skepticism as it was because you are a proven liar. Now, I have other criteria to consider when viewing your comments.

249 posted on 04/02/2012 9:22:51 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

I have a very bad feeling that Sharpton will throw gas on the flames and blow up this place.


250 posted on 04/03/2012 5:01:22 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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