Skip to comments.OK all if the US Supreme Court DUMPS ObamaCare then what...?
Posted on 03/27/2012 9:08:31 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
Any ideas out there?
Romney is happy to have that monkey off his back I guess.
How about if the supremes find odumbo guilty of treason and send him to prison?
How about if the supremes find odumbo guilty of treason and send him to prison?
I’ll plant my garden.
Of course if the SCOTUS agrees with them, the Obamorroids will scream it to the four corners of the universe.
Actually, I imagine Dems around the country would privately be thrilled if obamacare ended in the Supreme Court. Then they could campaign next fall as old news and we need to look forward, (or lean forward or whatever). The cancer that is obamacare would be gone. My two cents.
You post the most bizarre “what ifs”, you know that?
The SCOTUS will repeal Obamacare when monkeys fly outta my butt.
I wish they would, but they’re not. Moving on....
My bet is on full repeal.
How about the system that wasn’t broke continues until we get some common sense regulation. As I recall there were numerous Republican Proposals that would have help patient freedom not enslaved a nation.
How about the Congress regulating commerce between the states and overseeing people in different states being able to buy health insurance from other states or regions.
Can you say riots, mass murder, race war?
Taking some free program from a liberal is like taking
a piece of meat from a tiger.
Without ObamaCare, the campaign is against socialism. With it, the campaign is against tyranny and socialism. America is better off without ObamaCare, and except for losing an opportunity to weaken America, Obama is better off in the campaign without ObamaCare.
Romney and Senators McCain and Graham should reach across the aisle and find some common sense solutions to America’s Health Care Crisis./BARF
I asked for ideas, This PROVES YOU have NO ideas, so YOU need to “Move on”.
Probably so. But we need to remind the public every hour of every day of the leftist justices that will vote to uphold this monstrosity of freedom-killing law.
Oh, you CAN do it...but it helps if you're well-armed and ready to act when you do.
Look what happened over in UE when then the socialist programs got cut. Flames. Riots.
The Supreme Court will not resolve it. They will not strike down the entire law - that’s too broad for them. THey may very well kill the mandate and tell Congress to go back and work on it - and the debate begins all over again.
They may not even make a decision - but do something to kick the can down the road.
Point is - those looking for final resolution from SCOTUS will not get it.
If ObamaCare is struck down, the Kenyan lizard will ignore the ruling and continue to impose the law under an executive order prompting a constitutional crisis.
Republicans would be forced to shut the government down and impeach the lizard.
Exactly. Free Market competition versus Socialism.
For the first time since Obamacare was signed into law, I would consider flying the Stars & Stripes in place of the Gadsden Flag.
I was thinking a ticker tape parade, ala WWII V-Day!
If they dump ObamaCare, we will have all the more reason/ and more folks seeing clearly/ to dump Obama and the Chicago Thugocracy this fall.
If SCOTUS does repeal will you be posting pictures?
OH YES! The insurance industry is totally buried in STATE mandated regulations that kill efficiency and protect in-state agencies from any competition. I’m sure it’s the result of a lot of lobbying at the state level by the industry.
My daughter goes to college in another state. She is REQUIRED to return (500 miles) to our home state for any medical treatment. Otherwise, it’s the ER for EVERYTHING! An ER visit for an ankle infection cost...$1924.00! For a sprained ankle... $1022.00 So our insurance would rather pay that than deregulate the interstate coverage clauses in their regulations.
That’s CRAZY ! ! !
I might actually consider hiring someone.
You can't send a group of politicians--Democrat or Republican-- and their lobbyist friends being closed doors to hammer something like this out.
Everything contained in reform needs to be explained in detail. There can be no waivers. No "pass it to find out what's in it." No hidden legislation tucked away on page 2024.
Obama will never admit it, but he’ll be twice as happy to have the monkey off his back.
Better to run with zero achievements than with this gigantic albatross and cinderblock tied around your neck.
At the bottom of that dungheap, I'd pretty much bet that we'll find:
The need for tort reform
Take care of that, and there is a good chance costs would come back in line.
50 state + territories health insurance market.
No mandated coverages in one policy (let the consumer choose his coverage).
Ummmm, why do you want monkeys to fly out of your butt?
That's true for me, also, if I want my medical insurance to cover any part of it. But nothing to stop me from paying cash at an urgent-care clinic. However, if I were on Medicaid (I'm not), that strategy wouldn't work as the providers are bound by law to not treat unless it is through Medicaid (which it wouldn't be at an urgent care clinic)..
I would be stunned.
Good catch. I KNEW I should have re-worded that comment, I just knew it.
Obama runs hard on making it happen.
we hang it round Obama’s neck like an albatross for wasting billions upon billions on something everyone told him was blatantly unconstitutional.
Most likely, you're right, but there is a chance in this case, for two reasons:
1) There is no "severability" clause allowing other portions of the law to stand if any portion is struck down, and
2) Even the administration's legal team will be arguing that without the individual mandate, the rest of the law doesn't work.
If it were just #1, the Court would likely punt it back to Congress, saying "since we can't be sure of your intentions, we'll take the least interfering approach and let you handle repealing the mess that's left, if that's what you really want".
But the law's defenders saying that the provision in question is essential to the law's intent coupled with the lack of a severability clause does open for the door for the Court to say that Congress' intent was clear and that the whole law is null and void.
Excellent point. People were disgusted and sickened by the process as much as anything. Especially after Obama had won on promises that he’d be “Mr. Transparency”.
Frankly though I don’t think Congress is capable of having a transparent, non-corrupt process.
Close down the entire federal government forever?
Sounds good to me.
Drudge has a link up to the latest LA Times story. Anthony Kennedy is grilling the Solicitor General with questions which sound like they came straight from Limbaugh.
Oh, yeah. This sucka is goin’ DOWN!!!
There is a solid plurality in the country who are simply not going to put up with this BS any longer.
The libs on the court will not dump it, and the “moderate” on the court might not. pretty slim hope of dumping it.
I think the new law of the land will be that the government can force you to sign a contract. Currently that’s illegal and unconstitutional, but if this restriction impedes interstate commerce and damages the health of children, or is concordant with International Law, they may go for vetting it.
From your keyboard to God's monitor.
I (desperately) hope you are right, but will not start celebrating till it is done.
If SCOTUS voids ObamaCare:
1. Newsmedia orgy of medical sob stories.
2. The dynamic of the election changes. Leftists use free healthcare to buy votes from the dependency set, and demonize the right for denying the People their right to services paid for by someone else (See #1). The Repub’s will lose an issue that motivates their voters, and will be too timid to frame the issue to advantage. This could effect turnout significantly.
3. If Repub’s were smart (we’re in “optimism mode” here), they would assemble a simple, easily-presented set of reforms that addresses real healthcare problems without destroying personal freedom (e.g., rampant Medicare & Medicaid fraud; runaway costs of malpractice insurance and defensive medicine; insurance exclusions for pre-existing conditions; portability/de-coupling insurance from employment; MSA’s and coops; etc.). They basically had this during the ObamaCare but the Dem’s blocked even holding hearings about it. This would show willingness to address the problem, and demonstrate that the gigantic, hyper-intrusive ObamaCare concept was actually about power.
As per your number three, Newt Gingrich has already done this and made the list available on the Internet for months.
Not gonna happen....you know Obama’s two lady friends he put on the SC will vote with him no matter what......it’s called payback.....
You mean after we’ve finished kissing the ground and partying for a month or two?