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OK all if the US Supreme Court DUMPS ObamaCare then what...?
27 March 2012 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 03/27/2012 9:08:31 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

Any ideas out there?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: obamacare; ussupremecourt; vanity
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1 posted on 03/27/2012 9:08:36 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

Romney is happy to have that monkey off his back I guess.


2 posted on 03/27/2012 9:10:43 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (RIP Tea Party 2009-2012)
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To: US Navy Vet

How about if the supremes find odumbo guilty of treason and send him to prison?


3 posted on 03/27/2012 9:11:20 AM PDT by taillightchaser (Third party=four more years of marxism)
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To: US Navy Vet

How about if the supremes find odumbo guilty of treason and send him to prison?


4 posted on 03/27/2012 9:11:20 AM PDT by taillightchaser (Third party=four more years of marxism)
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To: Sybeck1

I’ll plant my garden.


5 posted on 03/27/2012 9:11:25 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: US Navy Vet
Obama's Executive Branch will simply ignore the Supreme Court's decision in that case. We can figure out how to deal with that.

Of course if the SCOTUS agrees with them, the Obamorroids will scream it to the four corners of the universe.

6 posted on 03/27/2012 9:12:39 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: US Navy Vet

Actually, I imagine Dems around the country would privately be thrilled if obamacare ended in the Supreme Court. Then they could campaign next fall as old news and we need to look forward, (or lean forward or whatever). The cancer that is obamacare would be gone. My two cents.


7 posted on 03/27/2012 9:13:05 AM PDT by BerniesFriend (Sarah Palin-"Lord knows she's attractive" says bitter Andrea Mitchell and the rest of the MSM)
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To: US Navy Vet

You post the most bizarre “what ifs”, you know that?

The SCOTUS will repeal Obamacare when monkeys fly outta my butt.

I wish they would, but they’re not. Moving on....


8 posted on 03/27/2012 9:13:19 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

My bet is on full repeal.


9 posted on 03/27/2012 9:14:29 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Beware the Sweater Vest)
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To: US Navy Vet

How about the system that wasn’t broke continues until we get some common sense regulation. As I recall there were numerous Republican Proposals that would have help patient freedom not enslaved a nation.


10 posted on 03/27/2012 9:15:00 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: US Navy Vet

How about the Congress regulating commerce between the states and overseeing people in different states being able to buy health insurance from other states or regions.

Just asking.


11 posted on 03/27/2012 9:15:13 AM PDT by ripley
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To: US Navy Vet

Can you say riots, mass murder, race war?
Taking some free program from a liberal is like taking
a piece of meat from a tiger.


12 posted on 03/27/2012 9:15:13 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: US Navy Vet

Without ObamaCare, the campaign is against socialism. With it, the campaign is against tyranny and socialism. America is better off without ObamaCare, and except for losing an opportunity to weaken America, Obama is better off in the campaign without ObamaCare.


13 posted on 03/27/2012 9:15:33 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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To: US Navy Vet

Romney and Senators McCain and Graham should reach across the aisle and find some common sense solutions to America’s Health Care Crisis./BARF


14 posted on 03/27/2012 9:18:51 AM PDT by impimp
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To: Responsibility2nd

I asked for ideas, This PROVES YOU have NO ideas, so YOU need to “Move on”.


15 posted on 03/27/2012 9:19:00 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: BerniesFriend
Actually, I imagine Dems around the country would privately be thrilled if obamacare ended in the Supreme Court.

Probably so. But we need to remind the public every hour of every day of the leftist justices that will vote to uphold this monstrosity of freedom-killing law.

16 posted on 03/27/2012 9:19:14 AM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: baddog 219
Taking some free program from a liberal is like taking a piece of meat from a tiger.

Oh, you CAN do it...but it helps if you're well-armed and ready to act when you do.

17 posted on 03/27/2012 9:19:21 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: baddog 219
Can you say riots, mass murder, race war? Taking some free program from a liberal is like taking a piece of meat from a tiger.

Look what happened over in UE when then the socialist programs got cut. Flames. Riots.

18 posted on 03/27/2012 9:19:49 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: US Navy Vet

The Supreme Court will not resolve it. They will not strike down the entire law - that’s too broad for them. THey may very well kill the mandate and tell Congress to go back and work on it - and the debate begins all over again.

They may not even make a decision - but do something to kick the can down the road.

Point is - those looking for final resolution from SCOTUS will not get it.


19 posted on 03/27/2012 9:22:26 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: US Navy Vet

If ObamaCare is struck down, the Kenyan lizard will ignore the ruling and continue to impose the law under an executive order prompting a constitutional crisis.

Republicans would be forced to shut the government down and impeach the lizard.


20 posted on 03/27/2012 9:23:09 AM PDT by y6162
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To: ripley

Exactly. Free Market competition versus Socialism.


21 posted on 03/27/2012 9:24:11 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: US Navy Vet

For the first time since Obamacare was signed into law, I would consider flying the Stars & Stripes in place of the Gadsden Flag.


22 posted on 03/27/2012 9:27:01 AM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: baddog 219
Can you say riots, mass murder, race war?

I was thinking a ticker tape parade, ala WWII V-Day!

23 posted on 03/27/2012 9:27:16 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: US Navy Vet

If they dump ObamaCare, we will have all the more reason/ and more folks seeing clearly/ to dump Obama and the Chicago Thugocracy this fall.


24 posted on 03/27/2012 9:27:38 AM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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To: Responsibility2nd
You post the most bizarre “what ifs”, you know that? The SCOTUS will repeal Obamacare when monkeys fly outta my butt. I wish they would, but they’re not. Moving on....

If SCOTUS does repeal will you be posting pictures?

25 posted on 03/27/2012 9:28:19 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: US Navy Vet

OH YES! The insurance industry is totally buried in STATE mandated regulations that kill efficiency and protect in-state agencies from any competition. I’m sure it’s the result of a lot of lobbying at the state level by the industry.
My daughter goes to college in another state. She is REQUIRED to return (500 miles) to our home state for any medical treatment. Otherwise, it’s the ER for EVERYTHING! An ER visit for an ankle infection cost...$1924.00! For a sprained ankle... $1022.00 So our insurance would rather pay that than deregulate the interstate coverage clauses in their regulations.
That’s CRAZY ! ! !


26 posted on 03/27/2012 9:28:31 AM PDT by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: US Navy Vet
Since you asked the forum for an opinion on O-Care... for what reason do you ask it?
What would you "replace" it with (considering that NO one has any benefit now from it.

Obama caused me to not have any care now. You see I went on SSDI and I have a pre-existing condition.
O PROMISED if the bill was past people like me would have coverage immediately... and that was a LIE. I have NONE now... and can not get any health care coverage at an affordable price and by that I mean the choice now is to pay for HC insurance or pay for housing, food, and gas.

What would you choose there? Obama and the obama care actually made the rates go up if you try to buy it now. So obama care has done NOTHING for citizens like me... despite the promise he made on TV the day of the signing of the bill.

So since that is the situation NOW, and it is based on a LIE obama told to get it passed, citizens like me will lose NOTHING by obamacare being turned over at SCOTUS. Barak LIED so many like me have NO expectation that by staying in effect it will get better.

Now again, for what reason do you ask your question and what is your answer to it?
27 posted on 03/27/2012 9:29:08 AM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: US Navy Vet

I might actually consider hiring someone.


28 posted on 03/27/2012 9:30:27 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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Any serious healthcare reform needs to originate from nonpartisan sources, with the understanding up front that nobody is going to get everything they want.

You can't send a group of politicians--Democrat or Republican-- and their lobbyist friends being closed doors to hammer something like this out.

Everything contained in reform needs to be explained in detail. There can be no waivers. No "pass it to find out what's in it." No hidden legislation tucked away on page 2024.

29 posted on 03/27/2012 9:31:01 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: Sybeck1

Obama will never admit it, but he’ll be twice as happy to have the monkey off his back.

Better to run with zero achievements than with this gigantic albatross and cinderblock tied around your neck.


30 posted on 03/27/2012 9:33:15 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: US Navy Vet
I would propose that we look at what regulations and specifically which of the 'uninsured' cause the cost of 'health care' (not insurance) to be so high.

At the bottom of that dungheap, I'd pretty much bet that we'll find:

Illegal aliens.

Federal Regulations

The need for tort reform

Take care of that, and there is a good chance costs would come back in line.

31 posted on 03/27/2012 9:35:16 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: US Navy Vet
Nationwide medical tort reform, or just tort reform.

50 state + territories health insurance market.

No mandated coverages in one policy (let the consumer choose his coverage).

32 posted on 03/27/2012 9:35:57 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Responsibility2nd
The SCOTUS will repeal Obamacare when monkeys fly outta my butt. I wish they would, but they’re not. Moving on....

Ummmm, why do you want monkeys to fly out of your butt?

33 posted on 03/27/2012 9:36:09 AM PDT by Go Gordon (President Poverty - President Downgrade - President Food Stamp - President Pantywaist - B. H. Obama)
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She is REQUIRED to return (500 miles) to our home state for any medical treatment.Otherwise, it’s the ER for EVERYTHING!

That's true for me, also, if I want my medical insurance to cover any part of it. But nothing to stop me from paying cash at an urgent-care clinic. However, if I were on Medicaid (I'm not), that strategy wouldn't work as the providers are bound by law to not treat unless it is through Medicaid (which it wouldn't be at an urgent care clinic)..

34 posted on 03/27/2012 9:36:25 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: US Navy Vet

I would be stunned.


35 posted on 03/27/2012 9:37:45 AM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Go Gordon

lololol

Good catch. I KNEW I should have re-worded that comment, I just knew it.


36 posted on 03/27/2012 9:38:13 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Obama runs hard on making it happen.


37 posted on 03/27/2012 9:40:23 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: US Navy Vet

we hang it round Obama’s neck like an albatross for wasting billions upon billions on something everyone told him was blatantly unconstitutional.


38 posted on 03/27/2012 9:40:46 AM PDT by sunmars
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The Supreme Court will not resolve it. They will not strike down the entire law - that’s too broad for them.

Most likely, you're right, but there is a chance in this case, for two reasons:

1) There is no "severability" clause allowing other portions of the law to stand if any portion is struck down, and

2) Even the administration's legal team will be arguing that without the individual mandate, the rest of the law doesn't work.

If it were just #1, the Court would likely punt it back to Congress, saying "since we can't be sure of your intentions, we'll take the least interfering approach and let you handle repealing the mess that's left, if that's what you really want".

But the law's defenders saying that the provision in question is essential to the law's intent coupled with the lack of a severability clause does open for the door for the Court to say that Congress' intent was clear and that the whole law is null and void.

39 posted on 03/27/2012 9:42:52 AM PDT by kevkrom (Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
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To: GSWarrior

Excellent point. People were disgusted and sickened by the process as much as anything. Especially after Obama had won on promises that he’d be “Mr. Transparency”.

Frankly though I don’t think Congress is capable of having a transparent, non-corrupt process.


40 posted on 03/27/2012 9:43:01 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: US Navy Vet

Close down the entire federal government forever?

Sounds good to me.


41 posted on 03/27/2012 9:45:00 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: verga

Drudge has a link up to the latest LA Times story. Anthony Kennedy is grilling the Solicitor General with questions which sound like they came straight from Limbaugh.

Oh, yeah. This sucka is goin’ DOWN!!!


42 posted on 03/27/2012 9:46:17 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Steely Tom
If SCOTUS upholds this law, it will be another Dred Scott case.

There is a solid plurality in the country who are simply not going to put up with this BS any longer.

43 posted on 03/27/2012 9:48:32 AM PDT by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: US Navy Vet

The libs on the court will not dump it, and the “moderate” on the court might not. pretty slim hope of dumping it.

I think the new law of the land will be that the government can force you to sign a contract. Currently that’s illegal and unconstitutional, but if this restriction impedes interstate commerce and damages the health of children, or is concordant with International Law, they may go for vetting it.


44 posted on 03/27/2012 9:50:30 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Oh, yeah. This sucka is goin’ DOWN!!!

From your keyboard to God's monitor.

I (desperately) hope you are right, but will not start celebrating till it is done.

45 posted on 03/27/2012 9:59:31 AM PDT by verga (Party like it is 1773)
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To: US Navy Vet
The current system will bankrupt the nation, The HCRA will bankrupt the nation. The only solution would be to abolish all insurance and go to a cash only reimbursement system. Only then will market forces be brought to bear on the health-care industry and health-care consumers alike. Mean spirited it would be, but this would embrace the conservative principles of free markets and self reliance.
46 posted on 03/27/2012 10:01:11 AM PDT by buckalfa (Confused and Bewildered With a Glass Half Empty)
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To: US Navy Vet

If SCOTUS voids ObamaCare:
1. Newsmedia orgy of medical sob stories.
2. The dynamic of the election changes. Leftists use free healthcare to buy votes from the dependency set, and demonize the right for denying the People their right to services paid for by someone else (See #1). The Repub’s will lose an issue that motivates their voters, and will be too timid to frame the issue to advantage. This could effect turnout significantly.
3. If Repub’s were smart (we’re in “optimism mode” here), they would assemble a simple, easily-presented set of reforms that addresses real healthcare problems without destroying personal freedom (e.g., rampant Medicare & Medicaid fraud; runaway costs of malpractice insurance and defensive medicine; insurance exclusions for pre-existing conditions; portability/de-coupling insurance from employment; MSA’s and coops; etc.). They basically had this during the ObamaCare but the Dem’s blocked even holding hearings about it. This would show willingness to address the problem, and demonstrate that the gigantic, hyper-intrusive ObamaCare concept was actually about power.


47 posted on 03/27/2012 10:03:46 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Chewbarkah

As per your number three, Newt Gingrich has already done this and made the list available on the Internet for months.


48 posted on 03/27/2012 10:05:55 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Not gonna happen....you know Obama’s two lady friends he put on the SC will vote with him no matter what......it’s called payback.....


49 posted on 03/27/2012 10:09:40 AM PDT by Arlis (.)
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To: US Navy Vet

You mean after we’ve finished kissing the ground and partying for a month or two?


50 posted on 03/27/2012 10:10:59 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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