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OK all if the US Supreme Court DUMPS ObamaCare then what...?
27 March 2012 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 03/27/2012 9:08:31 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

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To: US Navy Vet

Then everyone is responsible for their own insurance.


51 posted on 03/27/2012 10:19:22 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: US Navy Vet
If SCOTUS finds any part of the law unconstitutional, it will describe, within its opinion, the sorts of statutory language that would cure the infirmity.

Then it tosses the issue back to Congress. At some point, Congress will pass a federal health care package, be it single payer, or some other form.

It is constitutional to have a mandatory federal retirement plan (FICA).

The only constitutional issue with federalizing health care is finding the correct form. There are NO substantive barriers to federal power. All the barriers lie in formalities.

52 posted on 03/27/2012 10:22:34 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: PGR88

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,,,, and the debates start all over again .....

Did I miss something here ,,,, there were NO DEBATES ,,, the republicans were not even allowed to participate in any debates . This bill was passed through a process called reconcilliation wasn’t it ???

Back then the chambers of both houses had dem majorities so the Repubs. were dissed .


53 posted on 03/27/2012 10:24:12 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: US Navy Vet

The SCOTUS is just deciding the mandate part of Obamacare. If that is struck down it would in essence gut Obamacare, but not necessarily repeal it in total. Consider a turn down by the SCOTUS to be a hard stunning blow, but not necessarily a kill shot.


54 posted on 03/27/2012 10:25:43 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: US Navy Vet
We go back to having the best medical care in the world. The free market allows new lifesaving treatments to evolve making it even better.
The obamacrap health care takes medical care backwards into the same kind of dysfunctional medical care swamp that England has. It would work great unless you are old, disabled, sick or badly injured. If any of these things happened in your life your case would have to wait in line to see if there were more funds available for treatment.
55 posted on 03/27/2012 10:29:29 AM PDT by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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To: PGR88

“They may not even make a decision - but do something to kick the can down the road.”

Sort of like the Miller decision, eh?


56 posted on 03/27/2012 10:37:18 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Lionheartusa1
Did I miss something here ,,,, there were NO DEBATES

good point. I meant overall public debates, including MSM propoganda, which will be non-stop.

57 posted on 03/27/2012 10:41:05 AM PDT by PGR88
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"The Supreme Court will not resolve it. They will not strike down the entire law - that’s too broad for them. THey may very well kill the mandate and tell Congress to go back and work on it - and the debate begins all over again."

You are probably correct. I know there is a nonseverability argument, but if just the mandate is struck down and the rest of the bill stands, that will also be a disaster. The rest of the bill will completely destroy the insurance business through a combination of bankruptcy and soaring premiums and then Obama will say that only the government can save us from total chaos, bodies in the streets, etc. We need a complete repeal, somehow.

58 posted on 03/27/2012 10:53:36 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Smokin' Joe

I saw a chart plotting the cost of health care for the general population, against medicare and Medicaid reimbursement rates.

Not surprisingly, as medicare and medicaid reimbursement got lower and lower, the cost to everyone else went up. Wish I had that chart now...

Anyway, the point was that as Government messed with their own programs, the civilian world costs soared, so naturally Government came in to fix the “crisis”.


59 posted on 03/27/2012 11:02:18 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: US Navy Vet

If the SCOTUS tosses out Obamacare, we still work very damn hard to vote out or impeach this disaster of a President.


60 posted on 03/27/2012 11:14:01 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Bacon wrapped in bacon, wrapped in bacon, wrapped in bacon...)
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To: DBrow

“Not surprisingly, as medicare and medicaid reimbursement got lower and lower, the cost to everyone else went up. Wish I had that chart now...”

It may not be the identical chart, but look at Chart 5 here:
http://www.aei.org/files/2011/05/16/05-16-11%20Foster%20Medicare%20AEI%202011%20final.pdf

It shows that if Obamacare is fully implemented, hospitals eventually will get paid less than 40% of what private health insurance pays for inpatient services. This is an official projection by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services actuary!


61 posted on 03/27/2012 11:14:24 AM PDT by DrC
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To: y6162

“Republicans would be forced to shut the government down and impeach the lizard.”

There would be no grounds for impeachment because Progressives can do no wrong, they are brilliant, and anyone who is not Progressive is a knuckle-dragging, bible-thumping, gun-loving, Christian moron.

/s/


62 posted on 03/27/2012 11:30:33 AM PDT by ripley
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To: US Navy Vet

If they toss the whole law, there is light at the end of the tunnel. I might even be persuaded to vote for Romney.

If they scrap just the mandate and keep the rest, America is still doomed. Double time on preppers.

If the keep the whole thing, well... it’s anybody’s guess how long it will take for the powder keg to blow.


63 posted on 03/27/2012 11:50:51 AM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Huebolt

sorry incorrect ALL health plans have a out of network payment clause in the benefits that pays for er and urgent care and inpatient,outpatient visits and office visits if required.


64 posted on 03/27/2012 12:51:31 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: Arlis

“Obama’s two lady friends he put on the SC will vote with him no matter what”

Unless they play the games Congress plays. If they see it’s going DOWN, they can also vote down, so they can say, “See? I’m non-partisan!”


65 posted on 03/27/2012 2:44:04 PM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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