Skip to comments.OK all if the US Supreme Court DUMPS ObamaCare then what...?
Posted on 03/27/2012 9:08:31 AM PDT by US Navy Vet
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Then everyone is responsible for their own insurance.
Then it tosses the issue back to Congress. At some point, Congress will pass a federal health care package, be it single payer, or some other form.
It is constitutional to have a mandatory federal retirement plan (FICA).
The only constitutional issue with federalizing health care is finding the correct form. There are NO substantive barriers to federal power. All the barriers lie in formalities.
,,,, and the debates start all over again .....
Did I miss something here ,,,, there were NO DEBATES ,,, the republicans were not even allowed to participate in any debates . This bill was passed through a process called reconcilliation wasn’t it ???
Back then the chambers of both houses had dem majorities so the Repubs. were dissed .
The SCOTUS is just deciding the mandate part of Obamacare. If that is struck down it would in essence gut Obamacare, but not necessarily repeal it in total. Consider a turn down by the SCOTUS to be a hard stunning blow, but not necessarily a kill shot.
“They may not even make a decision - but do something to kick the can down the road.”
Sort of like the Miller decision, eh?
good point. I meant overall public debates, including MSM propoganda, which will be non-stop.
You are probably correct. I know there is a nonseverability argument, but if just the mandate is struck down and the rest of the bill stands, that will also be a disaster. The rest of the bill will completely destroy the insurance business through a combination of bankruptcy and soaring premiums and then Obama will say that only the government can save us from total chaos, bodies in the streets, etc. We need a complete repeal, somehow.
I saw a chart plotting the cost of health care for the general population, against medicare and Medicaid reimbursement rates.
Not surprisingly, as medicare and medicaid reimbursement got lower and lower, the cost to everyone else went up. Wish I had that chart now...
Anyway, the point was that as Government messed with their own programs, the civilian world costs soared, so naturally Government came in to fix the “crisis”.
If the SCOTUS tosses out Obamacare, we still work very damn hard to vote out or impeach this disaster of a President.
“Not surprisingly, as medicare and medicaid reimbursement got lower and lower, the cost to everyone else went up. Wish I had that chart now...”
It may not be the identical chart, but look at Chart 5 here:
It shows that if Obamacare is fully implemented, hospitals eventually will get paid less than 40% of what private health insurance pays for inpatient services. This is an official projection by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services actuary!
“Republicans would be forced to shut the government down and impeach the lizard.”
There would be no grounds for impeachment because Progressives can do no wrong, they are brilliant, and anyone who is not Progressive is a knuckle-dragging, bible-thumping, gun-loving, Christian moron.
If they toss the whole law, there is light at the end of the tunnel. I might even be persuaded to vote for Romney.
If they scrap just the mandate and keep the rest, America is still doomed. Double time on preppers.
If the keep the whole thing, well... it’s anybody’s guess how long it will take for the powder keg to blow.
sorry incorrect ALL health plans have a out of network payment clause in the benefits that pays for er and urgent care and inpatient,outpatient visits and office visits if required.
“Obamas two lady friends he put on the SC will vote with him no matter what”
Unless they play the games Congress plays. If they see it’s going DOWN, they can also vote down, so they can say, “See? I’m non-partisan!”