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People Are Saying That Obama's Healthcare Law Got Massacred At The Supreme Court Today
Business Insider ^ | March 27, 2012 | Grace Wyler

Posted on 03/27/2012 9:51:02 AM PDT by C19fan

The Supreme Court just wrapped up the second day of oral arguments in the landmark case against President Obama's healthcare overhaul, and reports from inside the courtroom indicate that the controversial law took quite a beating. Today's arguments focused around the central constitutional question of whether Congress has the power to force Americans to either pay for health insurance or pay a penalty. According to CNN's legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin, the arguments were "a train wreck for the Obama administration."

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KEYWORDS: obamacare; supremecourt
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Looks like at least for today Kennedy woke up on the right side, pardon the pun, of the bed. If you believe his comments the law's mandate would represent a fundamental change in the relationship between gov't and the people and therefore needs there is a "heavy burden of justification" for the government.
1 posted on 03/27/2012 9:51:11 AM PDT by C19fan
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The show’s not over till the fat lady votes..............


2 posted on 03/27/2012 9:52:55 AM PDT by Red Badger (If the Government can make you buy health insurance, they can make you buy a Volt................)
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To: C19fan

Yeah I believe what the propagandaists at CNN say, yep, right, uh huh.


3 posted on 03/27/2012 9:53:13 AM PDT by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: Red Badger

The show’s not over till the fat lady votes..............

Kagan?


4 posted on 03/27/2012 9:54:48 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: C19fan

This is great except I wouldn’t believe one word Jeff Toobin said on a bet.


5 posted on 03/27/2012 9:56:01 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: C19fan

As a rock-ribbed conservative, I’m used to disappointment.

I’ll believe it when the actual verdict is in. Not before.


6 posted on 03/27/2012 9:57:44 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: fungoking

Folks, do not get your hopes up... I believe justices often ply the screws to help the case find a way to get around the obstacles...


7 posted on 03/27/2012 9:59:12 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: C19fan

Here’s a thought. If the mandate is struck down how will that effect the Republican primary race since Romney implemented much the same thing in Massachusetts. How can any conservative vote for Romney but oppose Obama.


8 posted on 03/27/2012 9:59:35 AM PDT by albionin
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Don’t count your chickens - there are plenty of cases where appellate judges ask pointed questions to one side and then rule in that side’s favor.


9 posted on 03/27/2012 9:59:48 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: John W
“This is great except I wouldn’t believe one word Jeff Toobin said on a bet.”

Agreed, although knowing his usual direction and level of spin, if he is calling it a “train wreck” I suspect "complete and unmitigated disaster" is closer to the truth.

If so, I couldn't be happier!

10 posted on 03/27/2012 10:00:30 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: C19fan

We all know how CFR turned out. :(


11 posted on 03/27/2012 10:01:14 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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The arguments will not matter a whit to four of the five members of the Supreme Court. They are automatic rubberstamps for ObamaCare.

Kennedy? It depends on which side of the bed he gets up on tomorrow.

I still say striking down parts of it but finding a way to punt on most of it is a likely outcome.

12 posted on 03/27/2012 10:01:20 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Here’s hoping that this Kennedy doesn’t swim away and leave us gasping at the bottom of the pond.


13 posted on 03/27/2012 10:01:30 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: C19fan

A good general rule of thumb is to not read too much into the questioning arguments of the Supreme court to try to divine what they’re thinking. The only given is that leftist judges will vote the way the left wants them to. So, the only thing we know for sure is that it will be a 5-4 decision. We just don’t know what way it will go.


14 posted on 03/27/2012 10:02:20 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: C19fan

Trying to use logic to convince a liberal is like explaining algebra to your cat.


15 posted on 03/27/2012 10:02:20 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: albionin

/sarcasm on/Because it is okay for a state to force people to buy a product/service and not the Federal gov’t/sarcasm off/


16 posted on 03/27/2012 10:03:15 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Red Badger

Not exactly. It is not over till Justice KENNEDY votes. He IS THE vote. 5-4. He is the one they have to win to defeat this mess.


17 posted on 03/27/2012 10:03:41 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (I'm no Dim or RINO. I am a Monarchist. I serve THE coming King of kings!!!)
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To: C19fan
The big disaster hits a brick wall!
18 posted on 03/27/2012 10:06:04 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Red Badger
The show’s not over till the fat lady votes.............

There is no fat lady on the court. There is no lady on the court. But justice Elana Kagan is fat and gender confused.

It would be more accurate to say "it's not over until Justice Kennedy votes."

19 posted on 03/27/2012 10:06:17 AM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: albionin
You pose a good question. For the sake of argument I will try to supply an answer.

What is the population of Massachusetts? What is the population of the United States? Is it possible that what could work in a single state would fall apart if implemented on a nationwide scale because of the sheer number of people involved?

I don't know.

20 posted on 03/27/2012 10:06:27 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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