Skip to comments.CNN: Today was a 'train wreck' for Obamacare
Posted on 03/27/2012 1:02:34 PM PDT by Semper911
CNN Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin said that it was a rough day for the Obama administration, as lawyers worked to defend the Obamacare's individual mandate.
"This was a train wreck for the Obama administration," Tobin said. "This law looks like it's going to be struck down. I'm telling you, all of the predictions including mine that the justices would not have a problem with this law were wrong."
Tobin said that U.S. Solicitor General David Verrilli was woefully unprepared in his defense.
"I don't know why he had a bad day, he is a good lawyer, he was a perfectly fine lawyer in the really sort of tangential argument yesterday. He was not ready for the answers for the conservative justices," he said.
"If I had to bet today I would bet that this court is going to strike down the individual mandate." he said.
Tobin was not alone in his analysis. NBC's Justice corespondent Pete Williams was also skeptical.
"It would seem at this point in the process that I think it's very doubtful that the court is going to find the health care law constitutional," he said, "I don't see five votes to find the law constitutional."
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If we had a logical, fair and unbiased court, this Obama fiasco would be thrown out in less than an hour of deliberation.
BTW, wasn’t the law written in a way that if any part of it is struck down, all of it has to be struck down? I thought I had heard that at one time.
They will not know what to do and will be unable to deal with those who no longer have a legal job and will have to refund the salaries drawn as illegal employees.
The administration will cease to function because dealing with the dismantling will be all they can handle.
Problem is they pretty much already do that stuff. It’s just done in reverse as a tax deduction or a tax credit. Like the energy-efficient window deduction. Or the $8,000 tax credit for buying a house a couple years back. The government already does enough heinous things with our money, that this individual mandate doesn’t seem to me like the worst thing that’s done to the taxpayer. I’d rather receive a specific itemized bill from the government for services rendered, if it replaced the arbitrary income tax.
The constitutional remedy for stopping socialized health care is being overplayed in importance. The reason the mandate is so unpopular is because maybe half of the people who don’t like it wanted full socialized commie care with no obligation to pay anything. That war is going to start back up again if this is overturned. And it will have to be won with the public and at the ballot box.
Let’s not forget the government already has their hands in 50% of medical spending which causes most of the problems with the industry. Not to mention, the government will continue to mandate that health plans cover this or that and that hospitals don’t turn anyone away and everything else. I suppose to get a constitutional mandate they could make the hospital file a tax form for anyone who visits a doctor or hospital for the first time in any given year who doesn’t have insurance and mandate an annual fee that way. There are enough ways they can screw us with fees and taxes that they already seem legally able to do in countless different ways.
I thought we had a Tea Party that was going to help us fight this kind of stuff legislatively, but since they couldn’t even successfully nominate a conservative in a Republican primary, I don’t know how much more of a chance we have to turn the big government tide back.
I’m doing my “Happy Conservative Jew” dance.
This is just for show. They’ll go with their anointed one in the end.
And even then I will be skeptical.
Bottom line: The Main Stream Media doesn't report News...
They spread propaganda.
Kagan showed herself to be nothing but a stooge and a politician on the bench.
That Jeff Tobin (sp) must be a poor legal analyst.
The bottom line is still Anthony Kennedy. If he wants this to survive, it will. If he doesn’t, it won’t. Don’t get confident yet.
I’ll tell you why he had a bad day...because you can’t defend the indefensible in the end. Even the devil knows he will lose eventually.
That’s a point I hadn’t even thought of until you said it....Damn, that’d be funny.
“Train wreck, indeed! “
Until I hear the toilet flushing, I won’t believe that this will be delared unconstitutional by a panel of judges that wouldn’t touch eleigibility issues for fear of reprisal by the king.
I’ll believe it when I see it. I’ve seen too many “about faces” recently. Trust but verify.
Praying. If it’s upheld, it’s the end of the U.S.
Believe it after the ruling is issued. This reading tea leaves is just setting a predicate for Obama victory. These analysts cannot be trusted not to have an agenda behind their words.
I’m not a legal scholar, but it seems the relevant points were that ObamaCare attempts to create commerce to regulate. This would apply to people who choose to be uninsured.
The government attempted to say that they are in the insurance market whether or not they purchase insurance, and thus have a right to make them buy a policy.
There also seemed to be a lot of questions that drew the distinction of what was being regulated; health care or insurance. The government tried to basically say they are intertwined.
The only thing better than getting Obamacare declared unconstitutional... the knowledge that the Democrats threw away their majority... for nothing ! ROFl
At the time they were still under the influence of Begala and the bald cajun that the GOP was a dying party and there would be 40 years of Democratic Party rule.
Mark Levin is playing excerpts of the Supreme Court hearing. The solicitor general makes incoherent arguments.
"He [Verrilli] doesn't know what he's talking about."
The Obama laywer is speaking "mumbo jumbo" and a few seconds later Levin echoes the same. LoL. :-)