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Trayvon Martin Investigator Wanted Manslaughter Charge
ABC News ^ | March 27, 2012 | MATT GUTMAN

Posted on 03/27/2012 5:10:05 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

The lead homicide investigator in the shooting of unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin recommended that neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter the night of the shooting, multiple sources told ABC News.

But Sanford, Fla., Investigator Chris Serino was instructed to not press charges against Zimmerman because the state attorney's office headed by Norman Wolfinger determined there wasn't enough evidence to lead to a conviction, the sources told ABC News.

Police brought Zimmerman into the station for questioning for a few hours on the night of the shooting, said Zimmerman's attorney, despite his request for medical attention first. Ultimately they had to accept Zimmerman's claim of self defense. He was never charged with a crime.

Serino filed an affidavit on Feb. 26, the night that Martin was shot and killed by Zimmerman, that stated he was unconvinced Zimmerman's version of events.

Zimmerman, 28, claimed he shot Martin, 17, in self defense.

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To: wtc911

“A jury found OJ not guilty — therefore he didn’t kill his wife -— end of story. “

Actually, another jury found him guilty of civil crime, and fined OJ. However, since he was found not guilty by a jury in a criminal trial, he did not go to jail.

However, the physical evidence in the OJ trial was significantly different than in this case. Had OJ been white, he’d have been convicted.


51 posted on 03/27/2012 6:59:34 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: icwhatudo

Just fyi -

Next round was not chambered in the gun. Something interfered with the slide - like a hand holding it.

Odd - but again - as everything else - 100% consistent with Zimmerman version.


52 posted on 03/27/2012 7:03:14 PM PDT by Eldon Tyrell
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To: popdonnelly

For one... he’s a registered Democrat.


53 posted on 03/27/2012 7:12:17 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: wtc911

If they were both struggling with the gun would both of their DNA be on the gun? Would the gun have been handled in a way to preserve any fingerprints, DNA etc?


54 posted on 03/27/2012 7:13:16 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: hoosiermama

what are the chances trayvon shot himself?


55 posted on 03/27/2012 7:16:37 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: wtc911

Might not be enough evidence to get a conviction, but if they get a grand jury to bring charges they will ruin him financially. This is just get whitety time folks. They (the media and politicians) have already destroyed this guys life,they want him dead without trial. The witness protection program couldn’t help him now


56 posted on 03/27/2012 7:22:25 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Las Vegas Ron

BTW, isn’t this current group in the White Hut the ones who say “if you see something, say something”?

How can we good little spies for the regime if we’re not following our fellow man and reporting his every move?

I love hypocrisy and contradiction.


Excellent!! I needed a smile badly.


57 posted on 03/27/2012 7:23:37 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
Just read the initial police report. There were six plus, witnesses: Three men, three women and possibly a minor.

Although they did not give the detail in the partial report they stated witness testimony was consistent with Z statement.

He said they struggled for the gun. Tray was shot at close range. Autopsy should show angle of gun when the trigger was pulled and how close it was when discharged. Only an analysis of the gun and body would determine how/who pulled the trigger.

58 posted on 03/27/2012 7:24:27 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop; maggief

Maggie posted the Police Report and other relevent material on another thread.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/86948628/Trayvon-Martin-Police-Report


59 posted on 03/27/2012 7:33:30 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop; hoosiermama

“Zimmerman stated that he had shot the subject ...”

http://www.scribd.com/doc/86948628/Trayvon-Martin-Police-Report


60 posted on 03/27/2012 7:37:46 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Here are some highlights of 156 pages of Tayvon's tweets and retweets:

f*ck a bitch. any bitch. who you want? take yo pick, but you gone have to take yo time.

Lol so daisha think she a boss caus she walkd in class late 2day...... i do dat everyday

Hahaha Hoe u got USED fa yo loose ass p*ssy.! Tighten up.! #Literally

#youthetype of b*tch that give up your p*ssy for free and think its cool #p*ssyaintfree

2 glock 40's.... bitch u got 80 problems

Yo panties leakn?? I lik dat :))

Get high to balance out the lows

We in need of some trees ... Wea tha weed man.

i aint cum 2 skool 2day

All We Do Is Smoke & F*ck

F*ck these haters I'll kill 'em all if I could!

You know you high AF when you stop at a stop sign and wait for it to turn

R E T W E E T If you smoke #weed

U WANNA SEE SUM CASH? WELL LEMME SEE SUM ASS

TRUST NO 1.... KEEP YO FRIENZ CLOS ND FOEZ CLOSER

BUT DATS SUM HOMO SH*T

puss ass crackas

hoez luv me niggaz hate me so i guess dat im even

BOB MARLEY, Y U NO SHOOT THE DEPUTY?

If you don't like #weed. #YoureNotMyType

Its a new year lets make some changes...... f*ck dat wea da weedman at??

White People'(s) Call Police , Black People'(s) Call There Cousin

WULD I MISS KROP?? HELL NAW FUK DA SKOOL, FUK DA LUNCH, ND MOST OF ALL FUK DA FACULTY..... IMA MISS SUM OF DA STUDENTS, MAINLY DA BABIES ;)

JUST CAUS PPL SMOKE DONT MEAN DEY HAV A DISEASE.... SH*T AINT CONTAGIOUS

P*ssy.Money.Weed

I GOT DA RITE 2 B COCKY

BOX OF SWISHERS, BOX OF MAGNUMS, CAUS ALL WE DO IS SMOKE ND F*CK.... I NEEDA DOWN ASS CHICK

61 posted on 03/27/2012 7:39:49 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Tax codes and spending don't get 14 year olds pregnant and on welfare. Morality Matters.)
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To: hoosiermama

Here’s that thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2864631/posts?page=25

911 calls, etc.

http://sanfordfl.gov/investigation/trayvon_martin.html


62 posted on 03/27/2012 7:40:02 PM PDT by maggief
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To: icwhatudo

Link:

http://www.webpronews.com/trayvon-martins-tweets-are-now-available-2012-03


63 posted on 03/27/2012 7:41:47 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Tax codes and spending don't get 14 year olds pregnant and on welfare. Morality Matters.)
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To: Figment
They (the media and politicians) have already destroyed this guys life,they want him dead without trial.

And, *THIS*, is what is driving the current furor to arrest him. They don't want a trial at all, they want him where somebody could get at him. Were he to be arrested now, he wouldn't live to stand trial, whatever the evidence was.

The NBPP gave the show away when the created their original "Wanted" poster which read "Dead or Alive". Now, they're specifying alive, likely because its aready being arranged to kill him in custody...

the infowarrior

64 posted on 03/27/2012 7:45:47 PM PDT by infowarrior
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To: icwhatudo
No bias here .../sarc.

CBS photo gallery

65 posted on 03/27/2012 7:46:04 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Figment

The mission has been accomplished.

The thugs now know that whitey will be less likely to shoot and become another Zimmerman.

Black folks with concealed carry won’t be charged though.


66 posted on 03/27/2012 7:53:53 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Man that is a great point. And it is looking more and more, from his tweets and his record, like he is exactly the type of person the neighborhood watch should be checking up on.


67 posted on 03/27/2012 7:56:17 PM PDT by albionin
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Agreed, and sued.


68 posted on 03/27/2012 8:14:29 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Figment

You are right, Figment. Zimmerman’s life is ruined. I think his hopes for a future career in law enforcement won’t be in the cards, and most likely he will be sued by Mama Martin and win or lose he will incur a whopping legal bill. To top that, extremist black panther losers will be gunning for him...they already are. His best chance would be to change his name, either move to another state and change his appearance in some way, or leave the country for Canada, Australia, or New Zealand and attempt to start over.


69 posted on 03/27/2012 8:15:10 PM PDT by kiltie65 (ui)
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To: popdonnelly
Why does Zimmerman have to pay for the sins of racist whites, most of whom were Democrats?

Since Zimmerman is a Dem that makes him a racist. See how that goes?

70 posted on 03/27/2012 8:21:44 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Serino filed an affidavit on Feb. 26, the night that Martin was shot and killed by Zimmerman, that stated he was unconvinced Zimmerman's version of events.

Not a big deal. Cops want to press charges of all sorts all of the time just to get ONE that the States Atty office will go to court on.

The fact that the SA office was looking over Sanford PD/Serino's shoulder and nixed that idea from the get-go speaks volumes of how weak the case is.

71 posted on 03/27/2012 8:23:29 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The Democrat Ku Klux Klan is alive and well under the banner of diversity and tolerance)
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To: hoosiermama; maggief

thank you for clarifying and the link to the report.


72 posted on 03/27/2012 9:07:43 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So the cops denied him medical attention.


73 posted on 03/27/2012 9:09:27 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Huh, Zimmerman was never arrested?

What are you talking about?

Your post is entirely irrelevant or am I missing something?

I think most courts would consider being cuffed, brought to the station house and questioned as being arrested. Even if the police don't want to say it was an arrest, any lawyer could have that classified as an arrest and the clock for a "fair and speedy" trial would start ticking. The relevant question to ask is: "was he free to leave?" If he wasn't, even for a minute, then he was arrested. It doesn't matter whether they filled out the paperwork or not.

This is an entirely good thing. It prevents a lot of BS by law enforcement.

* * * * * *

I suspect the reason the police don't want to admit he was really under arrest while he was in the station house is that Florida law prohibits them from arresting someone who is acting in self defense. They could be liable for a lot of money if they arrested him.

So, they put out the pious fiction that he wasn't arrested and he accepts that because it saves him a lot of trouble.

It may well turn out that after the hubbub has died down, and especially if no charges are ever filed, his lawyer may come back and want some sort of monetary settlement for the arrest.

74 posted on 03/27/2012 10:39:13 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Wissa
Even if he willingly agrees to go to the station to answer questions?

If a person is free to leave when they want, they are not under arrest.

75 posted on 03/27/2012 10:56:26 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

Reading all posts with interest.


76 posted on 03/28/2012 12:18:10 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Looking back, it may have been wiser (but Maciavellian) to have detained Z for manslaughter, but freed by the judge at arraignment for lack of evidence.

After all, it is clear that Martin was shot up close and personal, not in the back or from a distance, while his hands were on Z's person causing observable wounds. Otherwise, why would Z have drawn his gun? Seems as though they were struggling over it?

Could Martin not have been at the last stage of causing life-threatening damage? Do we not send 17-18 year old youths out to war? Trayvon was not a child -- and if he had been wise, having become aware of the gun, why would he not have let go of Z and backed off quickly? But his social conduct had been showing that he was acting foolish, and not correctible by proper authority, eh?

I think that probably Trayvon's parents already know they are on the wrong end of justice, but just cannot admit it -- just as proud and foolish as their son.

77 posted on 03/28/2012 12:39:20 AM PDT by imardmd1 (An armed society is a polite society, but dangerous for a fool.)
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To: Moonman62
Being handcuffed and taken to the station for questioning is being arrested.

Not technically.

Although it was a violation of Mr. Zimmerman's human rights and downright impolite and disrespectful. IMHO.

78 posted on 03/28/2012 12:39:22 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: CurlyDave
The relevant question to ask is: "was he free to leave?" If he wasn't, even for a minute, then he was arrested.

Thank you!

79 posted on 03/28/2012 12:41:13 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: imardmd1
Could Martin not have been at the last stage of causing life-threatening damage?

In that case the EMTs would have insisted Zimmerman be admitted to hospital for examination by a doctor. Zimmerman's reported ouchies hardly speak of life and death struggle.

80 posted on 03/28/2012 1:31:49 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: Mr Rogers
Actually, another jury found him guilty of civil crime,

_____________________________________

There is no finding of guilt in a civil proceeding. There is no such thing as a "civil crime".

And, the point is that, as shown by the OJ trial, an aquital or a decision not to prosecute due to lack of sufficient evidence to convict does not mean that the person is innocent.

81 posted on 03/28/2012 4:51:42 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

My point exactly. Why start the clock if you don’t have to? The prosecutor felt they did not have enough evidnce to get a conviction. Continue your investigation. If you feel you have enough evidence, arrest him and start the clock.


82 posted on 03/28/2012 7:54:39 AM PDT by cumbo78
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To: cumbo78

PS. Zimmerman was never charged. He was taken into custody, questioned and released. If your not charged, the clock doesn’t start.


83 posted on 03/28/2012 7:59:09 AM PDT by cumbo78
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To: Las Vegas Ron

There is no harm in the use of the trifle of “captain” as lots of media outlets have reported that Zimmerman had attained the rank of Captain in the Neighborhood Watch.


84 posted on 03/28/2012 11:31:30 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Las Vegas Ron

He was in his truck, patrolling as was his responsibility as the neighborhood watch captain.

He was in his patrol truck.


85 posted on 03/28/2012 11:37:48 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Where was it written that Zimmerman was handcuffed? I read the police report and can’t recall that.

The police report says he was secured and transported. You can see what that means by reading this thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2865180/posts?page=1

86 posted on 03/28/2012 6:29:31 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

It was only about 10 minutes ago that I saw the video of Zimmerman arriving at the police station and he was indeed handcuffed.


87 posted on 03/28/2012 6:36:17 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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