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James Carville: ObamaCare being struck down would be the best thing ever to happen to Democrats
Hotair ^ | 03/27/2012 | AllahPundit

Posted on 03/27/2012 8:12:20 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

What’s the best part of this? The idea of a prominent Democrat interrupting his party’s Mediscare demagoguery to scold the right on increasing health-care costs for seniors? The fact that he thinks ObamaCare, which isn’t even defended as a cost-saving measure anymore, will effectively bend the curve on that? Or his palpable annoyance at the notion that enumerated powers might throw up a constitutional roadblock to something progressives really, really, really want to do?

But never mind that. Is he right? He’s unquestionably right on how the left will spin the aftermath of the mandate being dumped: They tried, now it’s the right’s turn. Hope the GOP’s ready. Let me rephrase his question slightly, though, and ask whether an adverse ruling would also be the best thing to happen to Obama, specifically. On the one hand, it would be an enormous humiliation to have his signature domestic “achievement” repudiated as an unconstitutional power grab. That’s one of the reasons that righties are so excited to see the mandate tossed. Once O-Care is gone, what’s left of Hopenchange except high unemployment and mind-boggling debt? Killing Bin Laden is awesome but if that’s all he has to point to in November, he’s done.

Would that humiliation cost him any votes, though? Or would it actually gain him votes by sending the left into a frenzy of utopian outrage? Obama could tell them, quite correctly, that the difference between universal health care and the status quo turned out to be one Supreme Court appointment. If they want to make sure this doesn’t happen again, it’s imperative that he be reelected. That’s a compelling pitch, much more so than clean coal or high-speed rail or whatever the hell he’s planning to talk about on the trail. And not only does he gain votes, he gains the right to do something that he loves loves loves doing — namely, passing the buck. The public hates the mandate and they’re going to hate the horrendous cost of this giant clusterfark once it goes into effect in two years. But once it’s gone, O doesn’t have to worry about that anymore. He can dress the program up rhetorically in all manner of “what might have been” nonsense — it would have lowered costs and there would have been no rationing and the whole thing would have been totally amazing — and use the comparison to bludgeon whatever Republican alternative plan emerges. In other words, losing O-Care would be a momentary embarrassment that just might get him reelected by turning out his base and would spare him the much greater embarrassment of watching this boondoggle melt down in the years to come. Hey, maybe that’s why Verrilli’s argument was so bad today. Dude, they’re throwing the fight. (Kidding, kidding.)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: carville; obamacare; scotus
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1 posted on 03/27/2012 8:12:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Stick it in your ear, you stupid snake looking smeagol imitator.


2 posted on 03/27/2012 8:15:01 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: SeekAndFind

Would Obamacare cover a face transplant for Carville cause that is one UGLY UGLY mug


3 posted on 03/27/2012 8:15:19 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: SeekAndFind
Never mind the Constitution there cue ball
4 posted on 03/27/2012 8:19:10 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t buy Carville’s attempt at double-psych for a second. He’s trying to sow seeds of doubt, nothing more.


5 posted on 03/27/2012 8:20:04 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SeekAndFind
Jeez, I was thinking along these lines today.

If America loses "free health care" because the law was not written quite right, then the obvious next step is to re-elect Obama so that he can get it right next time.

It's like the concept a benevolent Communist Revolution -- sure, all the ones in the past turned into bloody nightmares ... but they'll get it right next time.

6 posted on 03/27/2012 8:20:04 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Carville is right, but the problem is that voters are WAY more attentive to politics now than before 2008. The Dems believe, “Hey, we lose Obamacare in SCOTUS and we get back some seats in the House and Senate because the voters will forget.”

This will NOT happen. People are scared and can see a very violent future coalescing from all of the Democrat’s policies. It would be even more obvious if the GOP ran on these failed policies, but I guess the GOP is too stupid to hold the Dems feet to the fire and win with 10X the turnout as their issue-avoiding asses are doing now.

God save the United States of America.


7 posted on 03/27/2012 8:20:25 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: SeekAndFind

Strike it down. I’ll take my chances.


8 posted on 03/27/2012 8:21:07 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: SeekAndFind
ObamaCare being struck down would be the best thing ever to happen to Democrats

This nonsense is all CYA for the supporters of Obummer. How will Obummers singular achievement being eliminated be exciting for the Commie Pinko Left? They will be totally demorilized and Obummer will be left with absolutely nothing to sell himself to those dopes. He will be considered an utter failure for squandering so many resources and losing so many House and Senate seats over something that never came to be.

Obamacare has swept generations of Rats out of office on all levels of Govt'. If it is struck down, all that will be for nothing.

9 posted on 03/27/2012 8:21:12 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: SeekAndFind
James Carville: ObamaCare being struck down would be the best thing ever to happen to Democrats

And America.

10 posted on 03/27/2012 8:22:39 PM PDT by doc1019 (Romney will never get my vote!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If its thrown out they will simply try to create a Medicare for all.


11 posted on 03/27/2012 8:23:13 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: ClearCase_guy
If America loses "free health care" because the law was not written quite right, then the obvious next step is to re-elect Obama so that heELECT SOMEONE ELSE WHO can get it right next time.
12 posted on 03/27/2012 8:23:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
In other words, losing O-Care would be a momentary embarrassment that just might get him reelected by turning out his base and would spare him the much greater embarrassment of watching this boondoggle melt down in the years to come.

The flaw in this argument is that there aren't enough voters left in Obama's base and there are a lot more voters who will be happy if Obozocare gets thrown out.
13 posted on 03/27/2012 8:24:01 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: SeekAndFind

Written like a true political fanatic. I am against ObamaCare because I am against socialism, not because I want to score some points in an endless Democrat vs. Republican ping pong game.


14 posted on 03/27/2012 8:25:28 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: SeekAndFind

Obi-Wan Kenobi: If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.


15 posted on 03/27/2012 8:27:06 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He’s bluffing.


16 posted on 03/27/2012 8:29:32 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, make it 9-0.


17 posted on 03/27/2012 8:30:04 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (6 November, 2012, the day our embarrassment is sent back to Kenya.)
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To: SeekAndFind

To listen to the messiah and his supporters on the far left, if SCOTUS tosses Obamacare then Zero wins; if SCOTUS upholds Obamacare saying it is constitutional, the Zero wins. It is a win-win for Zero. LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISEASE.


18 posted on 03/27/2012 8:35:46 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: GeronL

If it is struck down, then it is a victory for personal liberty.


19 posted on 03/27/2012 8:36:37 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind

For every loss
spin spin spin
There is a whopper
spin spin spin
And a lie from every loser under heaven


20 posted on 03/27/2012 8:37:31 PM PDT by firebrand
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