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FBI Documents Offend Bay Area Muslims
NBC Bay Area ^ | Tuesday, Mar 27, 2012 | Joe Rosato Jr

Posted on 03/27/2012 9:50:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway

FBI visits were more business than friendly drop-ins.

The amplified voice rang out across the halls of the Mosque at the Muslim Community Association in Santa Clara. A call to prayer. The voice set-off the shuffle of shoeless men lining up in their socks for the 1:30 pm prayer.

For years, this growing Muslim community has increasingly opened its doors to the outside community, especially in a post 9/11 climate that found Muslim’s targeted for hate. In an effort to build trust and transparency, the center held open houses and tours where the public could visit. It even invited the F.B.I.

“We have outreach programs where we’ve invited the FBI and other law enforcement,” said Isa Shaw, a member of the Muslim Community Association. “We participated in their outreach efforts as well.”

But now it appears the friendly F.B.I. visits were more business than previously thought. Through FBI documents obtained by the ACLU and other groups under the Freedom of Information Act, it appears agents were keeping tabs on its hosts.

“What we’ve learned is they were documenting people’s first amendment protected activities,” said Shaw, “their religious practices, their associations.”

The documents, recorded between 2004 and 2008, show dozens of visits to Mosques and Islamic centers throughout the Bay Area. At the Seaside Mosque, agents documented conversations about community concerns about flight delays, information about a newly purchased property, and where and when women and men would meet in the building.

“Date fruits were being sold after the service to members of the Mosque,” wrote one agent after a visit to Seaside in August of 2005. “The FBI sampled the fruit. ”

“What’s happening as shown in these documents is the FBI’s using the guise of community outreach to get into mosques,” said the ACLU’s Julia Hirumi Mass. “And then recording totally benign information about people who are practicing their religion.”

In a statement, the FBI assistant director Michael Kortan said “The 2004-2008 San Francisco FBI documents reflect that information was collected within the scope of the an authorized law enforcement activity.” Kortan also noted, “Since that time, the FBI has formalized its community relations program to emphasize a greater distinction between outreach and operation activities.

To Shaw, however, the breach of trust came like a smack in the face.

“We feel we have been betrayed by the FBI,” he said. “We opened our doors, we invited them in. and they were secretly collecting this information for what purpose we don’t know.”

Mass said language in the files shows the documents were passed on to agencies outside the FBI, possibly opening up the subjects for further investigation.

“It’s a system of targeting a religious community for surveillance without any evidence of criminal activity,” Mass said. “This is a real front to religious freedom.”

Some in the Muslim community said the revelations would cause a chill, even as relations between Muslims and law enforcement had begun to thaw.

Shafath Syed, past president of San Jose’s South Bay Islamic Association, said the community has always been happy to work with law enforcement in a spirit of cooperation. He said he expected the new documents would now damage that trust. “I think people are going to be a bit more cautious with what they say to the FBI,” said Syed.


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1 posted on 03/27/2012 9:50:40 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: martin_fierro

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2 posted on 03/27/2012 9:51:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

What doesn’t offend Muslims....besides suicide bombers killing innocent women, children, bystanders and other Muslims, cutting off the heads of innocent people, honor killings, etc, etc.


3 posted on 03/27/2012 10:01:50 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: nickcarraway

muslims are always offended about something.


4 posted on 03/27/2012 10:09:03 PM PDT by Enten (How's that hopey changey thing been working out for you?)
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To: nickcarraway

I wouldn’t worry about ones wearing the shalwar kamiz and
hijab and so on.

tons of them here in eastside king co. wa.

the mujahed would be passing as other, dressed western style and probably hitting the naughtier parts of Lynnwood.


5 posted on 03/27/2012 10:18:03 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: nickcarraway

Quick wrap your towels around yer head and go back to satanallahs sand box!!!!!!


6 posted on 03/27/2012 10:22:38 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (3 little girls murdered by islam, Toulouse March 2012 . Time for the Final Crusade!!!!!)
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To: nickcarraway

7 posted on 03/27/2012 10:39:02 PM PDT by garjog
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To: RitchieAprile
the mujahed would be passing as other, dressed western style and probably hitting the naughtier parts of Lynnwood.

Lynnwood has naughty parts?

8 posted on 03/27/2012 11:00:37 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (I guess Newt is the best choice of the lot right now.)
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To: nickcarraway

9 posted on 03/27/2012 11:18:33 PM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: nickcarraway

I say too bad. Mussies should just go back to their sandbox.


10 posted on 03/27/2012 11:39:09 PM PDT by trailboss800
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To: nickcarraway

Just because moose limbs are responsible for the very vast majority of the worlds terrorist activity is NO reason to keep an especially watchful eye on their activities now is it?
HELL YES it is.


11 posted on 03/28/2012 2:21:18 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: nickcarraway
To Shaw, however, the breach of trust came like a smack in the face. “We feel we have been betrayed...


12 posted on 03/28/2012 3:21:35 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: nickcarraway

Muslims offend me. I’m Spartacus.


13 posted on 03/28/2012 5:51:01 AM PDT by onedoug
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14 posted on 03/28/2012 7:30:19 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Despite what they say, what outreach they do, their religion is a disease of the human spirit. It breeds zealots and murderers in the midst of a sea of followers that obfuscate their religion’s true purpose.

This picture, and the widespread condemnation by Muslims here (sarc) afterwards are all we need to know about Islam.


15 posted on 03/28/2012 7:37:48 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: nickcarraway

Unforgettable scene I saw once @ the Campbell Home Depot parking lot:

Islamic guy in white robes all knelt down in a corner of the lot and facing Mecca

Not 50 feet away, a cluster of Mexican illegals watching him nervously.


16 posted on 03/28/2012 7:40:19 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: nickcarraway

What, exactly, doesn’t offend muslims?


17 posted on 03/28/2012 8:08:08 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1163 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: nickcarraway

The Bay Area Muslims offend me.


18 posted on 03/28/2012 8:12:27 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd
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To: no one in particular

All that being said, it is perhaps worth noting that the last time I ran out of gas, who stopped to render aid but a Pakistani muslim on his way to Friday services at the Muslim Community Association in Santa Clara.

Go figure.


19 posted on 03/28/2012 8:13:49 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1163 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: nickcarraway

i use to work off Scott Avenue and that Moslem center was so annoying.

Several times a day it was difficult to drive the area as Moslems sent to the mosque, a former Hi-Tech building, to worship.

The streets were jammed with people walking every which way.

The next mosque should have their own parking with several ingress and egress points to ease traffic and pedestrians in the area.

I’m thinking the street should be able to accommodate ingress/egress from two sides like the parking garage in between 1st and San Pedro, in San Jose.


20 posted on 03/28/2012 8:54:53 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: martin_fierro

LOL!

He probably attends that mosque off of San Tomas on Budd Ave. My kids make it a point to watch for bomb-making activities every time we pass. :)


21 posted on 03/28/2012 9:02:50 AM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: martin_fierro

Funny. There is a rock climbing gym right across the street.

He could have gone there and pretended he was in a cave.


22 posted on 03/28/2012 9:13:37 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Politicalmom

Funny, I just mentioned that mosque in post above yours.


23 posted on 03/28/2012 9:15:49 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Is it the same one? The one I’m talking about is set off by itself with a lot of land around it. It’s a tiny building, too. I can’t imagine there being a parking problem.


24 posted on 03/28/2012 10:01:32 AM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: Vendome

They moved in and then tried to drive the existing semiconductor companies out on the grounds that the hazardous chemicals were too close to the school they put in the middle of them!


25 posted on 03/28/2012 10:12:16 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1163 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Politicalmom

Yeah. That one has bomb factory written all over it.


26 posted on 03/28/2012 10:18:29 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1163 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: nickcarraway
Because Muslims never case their targets.
27 posted on 03/28/2012 10:33:36 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: null and void

Ridiculous!


28 posted on 03/28/2012 10:42:13 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Politicalmom; null and void

Guess not.

I was talking about the one off 101 and Montague, by Gold’s Gym.

Null and Void knew which one I was talking about.

You are right about the one in Campbell. Better placement for their manner of worship.


29 posted on 03/28/2012 10:49:45 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: nickcarraway
“It’s a system of targeting a religious community for surveillance without any evidence of criminal activity,” Mass said. “This is a real front to religious freedom.”

I would like nothing better than to argue against their claim of being of being a 1st Amendment religion before the Supreme Court.

Of course, not being a lawyer might be a problem, but then again, they're not a religion, so the two cancel out.

30 posted on 03/28/2012 11:23:52 AM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: null and void

That just shows there are plenty of good people in bad religions (and bad people in good religions too).


31 posted on 03/28/2012 1:37:29 PM PDT by Vanders9
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