Supporters of Fla. shooter fearful of speaking out [Mob Shuts Down Discussion]

boston.com ^ | 3/28/2012 | Holbrook Mohr and Marina Hutchinson

[SoFloFreeper]

Trayvon Martin's supporters pack churches, swarm rallies and wear hooded sweat shirts in solidarity while friends and family of George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who shot the unarmed teen to death, remain largely out of sight. The few that have defended Zimmerman did so reluctantly, most fearing public backlash.

[No Surrender No Retreat]

Camle, common sense is not in the trayvon supporters mentality. A friend of mine on FB was called a racist for his common sense views on the case. I informed him that those, who call him a racist need only look into a mirror to see the true racist.

[cuban leaf]

—Part of this falls on us. We all need to speak out and support those who do otherwise we live under tyranny.—

It is what I and SoFloFreeper have been doing. I’ve been doing it all over the web at every opportunity. We are not alone, but we are definitely in the minority.

And I don’t mean claiming Zim is innocent. Rather, imploring people to look at ALL the facts and consider that they only know what the MSM tells them before they marry themselves to a position on this. And I remind them that they should avoid being part of a lynch mob.

Interestingly, as more information comes out, more are moving to the center and even in defense of Zim. I’m staying in the middle, unless this goes to trial and I end up on the jury (which is highly unlikely since I don’t live in that state. But when you have an Infinite Improbability Drive anything’s possible).

[cuban leaf]

—You are correct.

The summer of their discontent is going to be historical.

If they can not win, they will destroy.

If you live or work in any of the large cities your life this summer will be miserable and perhaps ended—

I completely agree. How much, you may ask? Two weeks before bammy was elected I bought a small farm in central Kentucky and August of last year I permanently moved their from my home of 45 years, Seattle.

Frankly, I should have done this a LONG time ago. It’s still like heaven on earth out here, even though every day I drive by the carcass of two buildings that were completely wiped out by tornadoes a few weeks ago.

But we can be 100% self sufficient on this property and are working in that direction.

[King Moonracer]

Maybe if Nike releases another $200 pair of sneakers, the savages will move on and attack the nearest mall. Sharpton and Jackson, the Black Panthers, Bambi, Spike Lee, and other ‘Rats should all be arrested for inciting violence.

[manc]

oh it will get worse, this site has one saying when they kill a cracker next time, another poster states that they will have a riot and get a free TV , another states he wants an Ipod .

http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/460207/treyvon-martin-case-the-plot-thickens/p17.

Another thinks it is funny for the kids to ransack a store

Another poster states so what if they photo shopped the photo’s of him as whites have been doing it for years etc.

The DOJ is doing nothing, the sheriffs are getting black officers and standing next to them for the photo ops and this is a build up for the summer of obama.

[cuban leaf]

—Don’t expect much coverage beyond that to ever get to the masses, that wont happen.—

It’s already happening. The good news is that not all liberals are idiots. When one claims that the police gave Zim back his gun, and you show them the retraction of that statement by the Brady group, they are silenced. When they claim Tray was screaming for help and you point them to the eyewitness accounts of those who SAW Tray on top of Zim and beating him while ZIM was screaming for help, they are silenced.

Etc.

The intelligent ones backtrack into the “we need to get all the facts before we make any judgements” middle. But I don’t leave it at that. I remind them that we were all victims of a press intentionally trying to bias this. I show them the raw picture of Tray compared to the seriously doctored one in a hoodie, and also point out that most of the pictures of him are not even that one, but one of him several years ago. Why do they not do the same for Zim?

They do come around. Some of them do, anyway.

[manc]

not arrested him because he operated with in our laws, our FL laws which many do not understand.

There is nothing to be charged with, evidence supports the factors, witnesses state what they saw and now we have left wing groups signing onto local channels and local papers and pretending to be the average joe who is horrified.

I hope all of us have put the real facts and photos on our FB’s and gone to the local news channels and called them out for their bias in this and ask them if they are wanting a race war because right now they are causing a lot of trouble that they will regret it.

This site just shows how some of them think this is funny, or asking for a riot or just cannot understand basic facts of the laws

[MamaTexan]

Then the terrorist attacks will start, and the National Guard troops will then be under Federal control, the president’s control, not the govs. of the states.

Not hardly.

Article 4 section 4
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

And on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive means the STATE governments, not the federal one.

This does not, however, says Barbeyrac, hinder but each confederated state may provide for its particular safety, by repressing its rebellious subjects. And herewith the present constitution of the United States fully agrees. For although congress are bound to guarantee to every state in the union a republican form of government, and to protect each of them against invasion; and also against domestic violence; yet this last is only to be done where the legislature, or executive of the state (where the legislature cannot be convened) shall make the application.
George Tucker Of the Several Forms of Government, SECTION XII

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Also-

Article VI. - The United States
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

That a law limited to such objects as may be authorised by the constitution, would, under the true construction of this clause, be the supreme law of the land; but a law not limited to those objects, or not made pursuant to the constitution, would not be the supreme law of the land, but an act of usurpation, and consequently void.
George Tucker's annotated version of Blackstone-Volume 1 — Appendix
Note D
[Section 18 - Miscellaneous Provisions (cont.)] GEORGE TUCKER

State Constitutions

THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION
Article 1 - BILL OF RIGHTS
Section 24 - MILITARY SUBORDINATE TO CIVIL AUTHORITY
The military shall at all times be subordinate to the civil authority

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CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF KANSAS
BILL OF RIGHTS
Sec. 4. The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security; but standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and shall not be tolerated, and the military shall be in strict subordination to the civil power.

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CONSTITUTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS
PART THE FIRST A Declaration of the Rights of the Inhabitants of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Article XVII. The people have a right to keep and to bear arms for the common defence. And as, in time of peace, armies are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be maintained without the consent of the legislature; and the military power shall always be held in an exact subordination to the civil authority, and be governed by it.

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EVERY State Constitution has this provision, there can BE no 'nationwide' Martial Law unless every single Governor rolls over.

That's not something I see as being close to realistic.

[cuban leaf]

Santorum’s statement is very similar in spirit to most of the vitrol I was seeing on all those web sites last weekend.

I’m so done with that creep.

And I will never vote for Romney. Hmmmm. Looks like I have a conundrum. I’m beginning to think our best course in November is a republican congress and a neutered Obama.

Seriously.

Comments?

[manc]

agree I’m all over the new and my local channels right now and the local papers, there I no way the left will use this any further for their agenda.

Total B/S all of this and why has the Hispanic groups not come out and where is the DOJ and why has GA the only state which has made an arrest of the black racist hate group panthers?

To me it shows how the left has their groups at a moments notice for a riot or to stand down

The more the panthers are on TV the more support we gain for justice

[cuban leaf]

On one site I used my “fictitious” facebook account. Eventually all my posts on the site disappeared. And there was nothing in any of them warranting anything like that. They just didn’t like my position.

[outpostinmass2]

“Stories of blacks beating on whites tend to drive liberal whites into the arms of law-and-order type Republicans.”

Don't be so sure about that. Liberals, especially liberal whites, are lunatics. We had a gang shootout with three dead in my town and the white libs were saying that our town was still safe since the shootout was between gangs. They lack logic and reasoning skills, which is why they are liberals.

[wtc911]

Sales of ammunition and weapons will again go out of sight.

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Done and done. Ruger stopped taking orders last week to give their factory a chance to catch up.

[SMARTY]

“Revolt of the Masses” Ortega y Gasset

http://pinkmonkey.com/dl/library1/revolt.pdf

[tomkat]

Aside from being conservative, bigger, and from a different demographic . .

             I am Zimmerman

.. as are most of you !

[mo]

He’s got to get the black vote out ...many of whom are unemployed at this point.

[SledgeCS]

I have always said that the most intolerant and hateful people out there are the so called leftist peace activists. When watching an interview on TV it is very easy to identify the leftist liberal, it will be the person that will not shut-up, not allow a dissenting opinion to be stated and is the one constantly interrupting everyone else.

[cuban leaf]

ask them if they are wanting a race war because right now they are causing a lot of trouble that they will regret it.

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Fred talked of this very risk about a decade ago:

Thoughts On The Unwisdom Of Starting What You Can’t Stop: http://www.fredoneverything.net/Assimilation.shtml

If you’re interested, here are some more from around the same time:
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Blowup.shtml
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Stability.shtml
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Underclass.shtml
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Opportunity.shtml

And from last August, using the London Riots as subject:
http://www.fredoneverything.net/LondonRiots.shtml

[IMR 4350]

A terrorist attack by foreign terrorist will make it an act of war.

Feds have control, not the states.

[McBuff]

I think this entire episode as a whole is really hurting Obama.

I agree. . or I should say, I pray to Jesus you are right. I think people recognize the implications of the growing instances of "wilding" and that it is primarily black youths massing together and targeting whites for "retribution." I think people are recognizing this has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with a 73% out of wedlock birthrate, no fathers in the home and a hip-hop culture that celebrates the behavior while so-called 'black leaders" themselves participate in the destruction of fatherhood in the black family. Where is Mrs. Jackson? Where is Mrs. Sharpton? Yet the Left never, for a moment, considers the hypocrisy of their behavior. They are too exhausted from searching for the indiscretions of Conservatives.