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Feds refuse to release Obama draft docs to Sheriff Joe
WND ^ | March 27, 2012 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 03/28/2012 9:08:45 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

The Selective Service System has declined Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s request to see the original copy of Barack Obama’s Selective Service registration form.

Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse investigating Obama’s eligibility announced at a March 1 press conference that it believes there is probable cause that the registration is fraudulent.

A three-sentence March 22 letter written on behalf of Selective Service Director Lawrence G. Romo, however, dismissed the request.

“This Agency has no evidence that President Obama’s 1980 registration is not authentic,” wrote Richard S. Flahavan, associate director of public & intergovernmental affairs

Apparently refusing to take seriously Arpaio’s investigation, Flahavan referred the sheriff to the FBI.

“However, if you have any credible evidence to the contrary and believe that a Federal crime has been committed, we suggest that it be turned over immediately to the Federal Bureau of Investigation to pursue,” Flahavan said.

In response, Arpaio yesterday sent a second letter to Romo, requesting clarification.

“If your office has the original, authentic Selective Service registration form for Barack Obama from July 29, 1980, please indicate whether or not you are in possession of this document,” Arpaio wrote.

“If the document is in your possession, please make it available for inspection by my Sheriff’s Office investigators. We will travel to your facility to analyze it.”

Apraio gave Romo 10 days to respond.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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KEYWORDS: arizona; arpaio; az; birthcertificate; certifigate; fraud; mikezullo; naturalborncitizen; obama; selectiveservice; sheriffjoe
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To: azishot
Sheriff Joe is NOT going to let this go until he gets answers.

If they still refuse to comply, since this is an active criminal investigation, he could petition a court to issue a writ of mandamus to the agency.

51 posted on 03/29/2012 1:54:11 AM PDT by TheCipher
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To: matt1
"i’m pretty sure Arpaio is working a lot of different angles which he has not yet mentioned publicly. personally, i suspect there are at least several very highly-placed individuals who have in-depth knowledge and evidence of this fraud who are or will work willingly with Arpaio.

obama’s house of cards is crumbling and his insiders are turning on him. does anyone think the open mic incident was merely an accident?"

We'll see. There has been a marked uptick in the in the amount of reporting and especially commentary, on this issue at other sites, from what I've seen.

52 posted on 03/29/2012 2:04:28 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: TheCipher
Seems from indications that I've seen, requests for individual service/draft records are honored routinely. This denial begs the questioned, what's the problem in this instance?


53 posted on 03/29/2012 2:20:33 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Good morning!

Just woke up and all this is beginning to sink in. My first thought is that Lord Monkton is another person in that growing list of people that will no longer be welcome as a guest at Fox. Soon they will have nobody left to interview.


54 posted on 03/29/2012 2:21:28 AM PDT by sueQ (SueQ)
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To: Smokeyblue

If SCOTUS puts a major hurting on obamacare things will start to unravel quickly. Major spike in guns and ammo prices in the last week. Folks are worried.


55 posted on 03/29/2012 2:29:22 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Smokeyblue
Lock up the DNC for obstruction of justice.
56 posted on 03/29/2012 2:39:43 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: Errant
Those are FOIA requests ( which are basically photcopies of the record )What he has is the FOIA request. What he wants is access to the original. They are reluctant to produce it since they probably know what a forensic examination would reveal. An examiner would take a sample of the ink used in the stamp. Ink manufacturers put chemical tags in their ink that identifies the manufacturer and the year it was made. That is kept in a national database. Selective Service would have a hard time explaining how an ink manufactured in 2008 appeared on a document supposedly stamped in 1980.
57 posted on 03/29/2012 2:40:32 AM PDT by TheCipher
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To: sueQ
"Good morning!"

And good evening to you! :)

"Soon they will have nobody left to interview."

Oh, they'll be able to work in guests. They'll just be indistinguishable from any of the other marxstream media outlets' visiting talking heads.

58 posted on 03/29/2012 2:59:56 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: TheCipher
Selective Service would have a hard time explaining how an ink manufactured in 2008 appeared on a document supposedly stamped in 1980.

Lucy, You've got some splainin to do! ;)

Thanks,

59 posted on 03/29/2012 3:04:52 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Smokeyblue
"Apparently refusing to take seriously Arpaio’s investigation, Flahavan referred the sheriff to the FBI."

Translation: Talk to the Hand Holder.

60 posted on 03/29/2012 3:41:58 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Smokeyblue
And..,,Today, what we will hear from Rush, Hannity, Levin, Ingraham, Medved, and the the other “conservative yappers, will be???????

( Crickets!)

They are loud mouthed weenies pretending to be patriots.

61 posted on 03/29/2012 3:46:49 AM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: wintertime

One little bright spot... at The Blaze of all places. Dave Mustaine of Megadeth is a birther and a Christian now. Not into heavy metal myself but the interview is interesting.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/turns-out-that-megadeths-frontman-is-a-birther/


62 posted on 03/29/2012 4:32:56 AM PDT by sueQ (SueQ)
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To: Smokeyblue

The Feds have not dealt with the issue at all....other than to deny “standing” to anyone else trying to deal with it.


63 posted on 03/29/2012 4:35:56 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: null and void

Thakns.


64 posted on 03/29/2012 4:48:04 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: cpdiii
“This Agency has no evidence that President Obama’s 1980 registration is not authentic,” wrote Richard S. Flahavan, associate director of public & intergovernmental affairs That is great and if correct, the release of the document would show that it is a legitimate and correct document. Therefore, why will you not release the document?

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April 27, 2011: On the one hand, President Flexibility releases his Hawaii long form birth certificate that he recently received from Hawaii to great fanfare. He did so to put to rest the "idiotic" cries from Trump and others for Obama to release his long form birth certificate if it exists.

(Obama is a liar and a fraud.)

Obama's 1980 Selective Service application: On the other hand, I doubt very seriously that candidate Obama will greet us with an "October" surprise between now and election day Nov. 2012 by suddenly displaying his Selective Service 1980 application form to great fanfare at a White House press conference in the same way that he suddenly displayed his long form birth certificate on April 27, 2011.

I make the statement above for this reason: Obama knows that whatever Selective Service form he presents at a White House press conference will be proven to be fake, especially after document and computer experts analyze it the way they analyzed Obama's long form birth certificate.

So don't hold your breath and expect presidential candidate Mr. Flexibility to suddenly display his 1980 Selective Service application any time soon, because he knows that the one we see on the internet is a fake.

I mean, seriously, does anyone believe that Obama really signed it?

I know that people's signatures change as they get older, but to me, the Obama signature on the Selective Service form does not even come close to Mr. Flexibility's signature today.

NOTE: I wish we could find an Obama signature from the '70s and the '80s---say, a signature on a school paper or some application form---so that we could compare it to the signature on the 1980 Selective Service form.

Sheriff and Postal Service: The Sheriff should contact the Postal Service with his finding that the Selective Service form is a fraud, because supposedly it was a Post Office clerk who stamped the application form back in 1980.

I may be wrong, but as I understand it, postal inspectors are excellent investigators.

65 posted on 03/29/2012 4:50:08 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: Smokeyblue

So, there we have the the local vs the Feds jurisdictional dispute.

The good High Sheriff made the request, the demand, but did not cite under what authority. I do not believe he has the authority to conduct such an investigation and that the FBI is the only law enforcement agency with that authority.

Absent a Federal Court order he will never get it.


66 posted on 03/29/2012 4:54:34 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Smokeyblue

Just a question: Do the 1st 2 digits in the ss number represent a birth year? Mine starts with 63, which just so happens to be the year I was born.


67 posted on 03/29/2012 5:00:54 AM PDT by sniper63 (If Obama pats himself on the back anymore, his shoulder will dislocate.....)
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To: sniper63

Coincidence. My first two are numerically 15 lower than my actual birth year.


68 posted on 03/29/2012 5:06:46 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Smokeyblue
Nuthin' to hide here, move along....

You can stonewall some of the people some of the time, but you can't stonewall all of the people all of the time.

69 posted on 03/29/2012 5:38:22 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Errant

http://www.hillbillyreport.com/blog/2008/10/questions-about-senator-mitch-mcconnells-military-record.html

From Flahavan:

“the U.S. Army ordered him to undergo an Armed Forces Physical Examination which he did July 9, 1967. Apparently, he did not pass because he was released from the U.S. Army Reserve August 15, 1967.”

http://www.hillbillyreport.com/Kaner/physical1.jpg

“...when we looked under column 7 Armed Forces Physical Examination it was blank, indicating that Mitch McConnell did not receive a Armed Forces Physical Examination as stated by Richard Flahavan, in his extract. If the Selective Service Classification Record is correct and Mitch McConnell didn’t receive Armed Forces Physical Examination, then how could he flunk the Armed Forces Physical Examination he didn’t take and what is the real reason Mitch McConnell didn’t serve his country during the Vietnam war?”

Obviously, Mr. Flahavan is a career employee and crosses administrations. In 2007 he had to ‘fix’ a prominent republican. In 2009 he had to ‘fix’ a very prominent Democrat.

Regardless he seems like a good ‘person of interest’. He may be a pawn, but pawns are the first to go in a chess game.


70 posted on 03/29/2012 5:46:10 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: stylin19a
It seems to me that Debbie Schlussel put pressure on them to create the document, just as Corsi did with the BC.

I think Soebarkah was in the SS system long before the document had to be created. Maybe he needed it to get into Harvard, or the first job after Harvard.

His SSN and SSR are probably constructed in the same time period.

71 posted on 03/29/2012 5:55:20 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: The Cajun
I would be very surprised if the person or people responsible are still with us.

For someone like Ayers, who wanted to kill 25 million Americans who got in his way, making that go away would barely be an afterthought.

"I'm Winston Wolfe. I solve problems."

72 posted on 03/29/2012 6:19:17 AM PDT by GBA (America has been infected. Be the cure!)
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To: Eagles6
Folks are worried.

And now there is proof that Obama is making deals and doing things with foreign countries that he doesn't want the American people to know about because they will disapprove and horrors .... may not vote him a second term. The guy is selling out & betraying the country .... I think there is a word for that .... starts with a "T". There is no longer a question about the fact that O is doing whatever he can to bring America down - that 'T' word also applies to anyone who can do something about it and isn't ... Congress, et al. I wonder how the Secret Service feels about having to protect this @sshat? You know they know "something". The stinking slime that is O & his administration is beginning to ooze through the cracks in a way that cannot be ignored.

73 posted on 03/29/2012 6:29:27 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Smokeyblue; JLAGRAYFOX; MamaDearest; Doogle; justiceseeker93; vette6387; exit82; rodguy911; ...

In my opinion, anyone or any agency that knowingly hides the truth is complicit and should be tried and convicted and sent to prison. Do we have enough prison cells? The stench from this will reach every state in the Union.

Would the words Treason and Traitors be applicable? Comments anyone? IMO, these spineless, gutless vermin mock all those lying in Arlington and elsewhere who sacrificed to keep this nation free. Is there anyone or anything lower in your opinion than those complicit in this cover up? The utter silence out of the US Congress smells as well, IMO.


74 posted on 03/29/2012 6:40:49 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Richard S. Flahavan .... This guy has the goods to squeeze Obama for millions, if inclined.
75 posted on 03/29/2012 7:06:15 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: ExTexasRedhead
IMO, these spineless, gutless vermin mock all those lying in Arlington and elsewhere who sacrificed to keep this nation free.

I couldn't agree with you more.

I had a strange dream years ago when G.W. Bush was president that he would be the last 'real' president America would have. If our nation falls, these people you've mentioned will have played a part along with others.

76 posted on 03/29/2012 7:40:14 AM PDT by Errant
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To: PA-RIVER

thanks. those are interesting what ifs.


77 posted on 03/29/2012 9:22:11 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Smokeyblue
“This GOVERNMENT Agency has no evidence that President Obama’s 1980 registration is not authentic,”

Fixed it.

78 posted on 03/29/2012 9:46:53 AM PDT by bgill
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To: TheCipher; vette6387; mazda77; Doogle; Foolsgold; MamaDearest; bevperl; flat; rodguy911; Nachum; ...

Do we have enough prison space for all these traitors?

If not, I suggest caves in Afganistan or desert tent cities in Iraq.


79 posted on 03/29/2012 10:08:06 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Sherriff Joe has lots of room in the Arizona desert- and all the tap water and all the white bread and balogna sandwiches they can eat.


80 posted on 03/29/2012 10:18:50 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Rope is much better.


81 posted on 03/29/2012 10:42:10 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Two more traitors to add to the list

McCain, Kyl back Obama pick to slap Arpaio?

http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/mccain-kyl-back-obama-pick-seen-as-slap-at-arpaio/

Arizona Republican Sens. Jon Kyl and John McCain have approved the Obama administration’s nomination for U.S. attorney in Arizona of John Leonardo, a former Arizona judge with a history of rulings adverse to Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, the Senate Judiciary Committee confirmed to WND.

On his Senate website, Kyl has posted a press release dated March 21 titled “Kyl and McCain Welcome Nomination of Judge Leonardo for U.S. Attorney.”

“The nomination of John Leonardo for U.S. Attorney is welcome news for Arizona,” Kyl and McCain said in the jointly released statement.

“With over a decade of experience as an Assistant U.S. Attorney for the District of Arizona and nearly 20 years on the bench for the Pima County Superior Court, John Leonardo is well equipped to serve in a key post that has been left vacant for far too long.”

SNIP

Obama’s nomination of Leonardo comes at a time when Eric Holder’s U.S. Justice Department has gained national attention for allegations that the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office under the direction of Arpaio has engaged in a systematic policy of denying Hispanics their civil rights under federal law.


82 posted on 03/29/2012 11:03:59 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: ExTexasRedhead

This regime needs to be put on trial!


83 posted on 03/30/2012 1:03:08 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: PA-RIVER; Smokeyblue
I realize this is belated for this thread, but your post brings up a salient point.

"Richard S. Flahavan .... This guy has the goods to squeeze Obama for millions, if inclined."

And if this Dick can blackmail "Obama" then just imagine what the leadership of any foreign country with a semi-decent intelligence service can do to the guy.

You just KNOW they've got this bastard by the short hairs. Exhibit A: Recent "open mic" comments to Medvedev.

The presidency is not "simply" and cynically usurped. It is in fact utterly compromised.

God help us all.

84 posted on 03/30/2012 2:49:03 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: al baby

Rep Issa: Remember it is the SERIOUSNESS OF THE CHARGE and would
take almost zero dollars to find out who this guy really IS. What is the holdup?


85 posted on 03/30/2012 8:02:00 AM PDT by robroy12 (robroy12)
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To: Smokeyblue

I watched the video over a month ago of Monckton substantiating the fact that he as well thought the King’s birth certificate was a fraud as well SS card. I

I have always said “If you are going to be bad, be very bad.” The Chicago way exemplifies just this, no surprise here, just corruption at it’s finest! Most of the people serving in office just serve them selves and belong in jail.


86 posted on 07/04/2012 1:53:39 PM PDT by tcat
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