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Predictions from Obamacare's Week in Court: Goodbye, Mandate?
Townhall.com ^ | March 29, 2012 | Kate Hicks

Posted on 03/29/2012 5:28:32 AM PDT by Kaslin

After a three-day marathon of oral arguments, during which the Supreme Court considered various facets of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, final impressions everywhere are mixed.

Liberal supporters of the law have melted into hysterics on live television over the “train wreck” that was Solicitor General Donald Verrilli’s defense. Smeared in red atop the Huffington Post were, “Obamacare on the Brink” and “Disaster.” James Carville now claims that Democrats will “win” if the Court overturns the mandate.

Conservatives, meanwhile, are practically dancing in the street at the prospect of an unconstitutional ruling, which once seemed a remote possibility. It seems like there’s a bit of a cautious tone in the celebrating – after all, don’t want to raise hopes too much – but the Right is certainly optimistic.

And all this goes to show that we counted a fair number of unhatched chickens.

Between the Left’s certainty of the mandate’s constitutionality, and the Right’s pessimism regarding the Supreme Court (or should I say, Justice Kennedy), everyone seemed to believe that Obamacare would come away from oral arguments relatively unscathed.

In reality, it was hardly the cakewalk many Obamacare proponents envisioned.

On Monday, the Court considered whether it was too soon to rule on the issue of the mandate. Court watchers speculated that the Justices might use the Anti-Injunction Act as their final escape hatch to make a ruling on the mandate. The Court, they argued, might not want to undertake such a politically charged topic in an election year. If there’s a way for them to punt, they’ll likely do it.

But they seemed unconvinced of the fact that the mandate was a tax, pointing to the fact that it’s not in existence to raise revenue – in other words, it’s not a tax in the traditional sense of the word. The Justices hit the court-appointed lawyer arguing in favor of AIA jurisdiction pretty hard, and seemed convinced by the states’ and federal government’s arguments to the contrary. In all likelihood, they will rule (possibly 7-2 or 8-1) that the mandate penalty is not a tax, and therefore, it is not too soon for the Court to consider the individual mandate’s constitutionality.

That controversial policy was next on the docket, and it certainly took a beating. Popular sentiment, especially in the media, predicted that Justice Kennedy may side with the liberal wing of the Court, and that Chief Justice Roberts may join him. However, while the two did hint at some willingness to uphold the mandate, they both expressed considerable skepticism about the federal government’s lack of a limiting principle.

Justice Kennedy even went so far as to question how the mandate would permanently alter the relationship the federal government has to individuals. While it’s by no means safe to say he’ll strike down the mandate, he was certainly ambivalent on the issue, and hit the Solicitor General much harder than expected.

General Verrilli, for his part, didn’t do his case many favors. At several points, Justices Kagan and Ginsburg stepped in to essentially state his case for him. Commentators on both the right and left joked and/or despaired that the government’s case would have fared better if Justice Kagan had been arguing it.

By contrast, Paul Clement, lawyer for the states, presented a brilliant show, deftly answering the Justices’ questions while attacking the government’s weaker points. He was especially strong when arguing that the mandate had no limiting principle, and that nothing could stop the government from handing itself greater power for the sake of another “national emergency.” Conventional wisdom suggests that oral arguments rarely change a Justice’s mind, but it’s possible that Mr. Clement’s presentation could influence Justices Kennedy and Roberts’ decisions.

When weighing the mandate, the Justices will consider two conflicting views and decide which takes precedence. Can Congress regulate people just outside the insurance market because of the effect they have on that market – and therefore the country at large? Or is that power too unlimited – so much so that it can’t simply be confined to insurance?

Five Justices seemed very concerned over the latter principle. It’s imprudent to suggest that they’ll absolutely rule in that block, but a 5-4 decision overturning the mandate is a definite possibility.

Severability was initially thought to be an easy decision against the states. The real question seemed to be whether the federal government would get its way and see the guaranteed issue and community rating provisions tossed out, too. Again, the Justices proved they’re capable of surprising.

In fact, the government’s suggestion that the Justices could pick and choose pieces of the law to uphold and pieces to strike down seemed anathema to them. Justice Kennedy contemplated whether such divining of congressional intent was more an example of judicial activism than throwing the law out entirely.

If the Justices find the mandate unconstitutional, their next decision will likely be between throwing it all out, or keeping everything but the mandate. They seemed perturbed by the impending financial disaster that adverse selection would wreak on the insurance market, without the mandate to subsidize guaranteed issue. If they decide to take the financial reality of the law into consideration, then it’s very possible the whole thing goes. However, they – especially the Chief Justice – emphasized that the Court cannot and should not “carry out congressional intent.” Thus, if Congress fears the law without the mandate will do economic harm, it is Congress’ job to provide a legislative remedy, by repealing or rewriting the law. The best prediction suggests the Justices will not pick and choose pieces of the law to uphold or throw out. A bold – but not completely unrealistic – prediction suggests they throw out the whole thing.

Finally, they tackled the issue of Medicaid expansion. The burden here lay with the states to prove that Congress had exceeded its power of persuading the states to conform to a federal standard, and that instead, Congress had “made them an offer they couldn’t refuse.” It was a tall task for Mr. Clement and his team, but the Justices seemed to find the coercion argument somewhat, if not entirely, compelling.

Chief Justice Roberts seemed willing to accept the premise that the government had offered too much money, and at too high a cost of refusal, for the states to say no. Justice Kennedy, too, admitted, “the states have no choice.” They saw the contentious nature of the Secretary of Health and Human Services’ power to revoke all Medicaid funding if the states refused expansion. And the Justices weren’t so sure they liked it. However, the lack of a readily-available of federal coercion, coupled with the states’ post-New Deal willingness to be federally dependent, suggest they could rule against the states. Most likely, they will not find Medicaid expansion to be coercive. Bear in mind, however, their willingness to consider overturning the law entirely. If that’s the case, this Medicaid ruling doesn’t matter anyway.

Of course, the oral arguments aren’t perfect predictors of the final decision, and some joke that a ruling depends on Justice Kennedy’s mood that day. But if nothing else, this week proved that the Court isn’t some bastion of activism, existing solely for the purpose of wielding unchecked power. The Justices listened, and now they’ll decide. And no matter the ruling, come June, Congress will have a new understanding of the limits – or lack thereof – to its power.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
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1 posted on 03/29/2012 5:28:37 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I get this creepy feeling that the negative aura we sense about the constitutionality point is just the Supreme Court “going through the motions” and that in the end, they’ll cave.

Remember, this is the IMPERIAL CITY of Washington DC. It is all shadow and mirrors, smoke and deceit.

I hope they remember the oath to uphold the Constitution, no one else there does.


2 posted on 03/29/2012 5:37:10 AM PDT by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: Kaslin

“But if nothing else, this week proved that the Court isn’t some bastion of activism, existing solely for the purpose of wielding unchecked power.”

...it did nothing of the sort. What Kagan, Sontemeyer etc say and do are two entirely different things.


3 posted on 03/29/2012 5:37:16 AM PDT by albie
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To: Kaslin
Too late

Predictions from Obamacare's Week in Court: Goodbye, Mandate? Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:24:59 AM · by Servant of the Cross Townhall.com ^ | 3/29/2012 | Kate Hicks

4 posted on 03/29/2012 5:37:33 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: sickoflibs
Both sides agree on one thing.

That Donald Verrilli Jr. was in over his head as Solicitor General.

Obama should had appointed a real Lawyer

5 posted on 03/29/2012 5:44:33 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: scooby321
RE :”Both sides agree on one thing.
That Donald Verrilli Jr. was in over his head as Solicitor General. Obama should had appointed a real Lawyer

They started with Kagan writing the defense. Any guesses on how she will rule on this?

6 posted on 03/29/2012 5:48:51 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : "I will just make insurance companies give you health care for 'free, What Mandates??' ")
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To: Huebolt

They were able to find the “right” to an abortion in the Constitution so certainly they can find a mandate in there somewhere.


7 posted on 03/29/2012 5:51:57 AM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Kaslin
The mainstream media seems to be none to happy with the Supreme Court. Yahoo had a story up this morning mocking Scalia as a daft old fogy whose minds slipping and who needs to retire because he asked a question about the "corn husker kickback" which the writer claims was removed from the law before it was passed.

I guarantee if the Supreme Court tosses this law. You are going to see such an attack on the courts Conservative Majority as there has ever been. They are going to be portrayed in the media out of touch addled old fool, who spend their days listening to Rush Limbaugh and talking about oppressing women, minorities and gays. They only struck down the law because Obama is black, and they couldn't stand to see a black man succeed. Heck, there might even be some rumblings from the far left that Obama should just ignore the ruling because those five justices no longer represent the will of "the 99%".

8 posted on 03/29/2012 5:59:00 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Huebolt

What is the overall theme of themes, the general historical wave affecting the nation and the world right now? To me, it is socialism, spread by both parties in differing degrees, but in lock-step on the major economic and social issues.

This means that we will ultimately get socialism, even if in a temporary fit of rage, the socialist forces are checked for a moment or two.

No one believes in the Constitution, the rule of Law, or in the concept that our rights come from God, and not the government.

Until that changes, it does not matter if this law is overturned, as the downward spiral will continue, albeit on a slightly flatter trajectory.

I think the Court will, despite all thought and argument heard to the contrary, uphold Obamacare, thus insuring the re-election of Obama in the face of a weak Republican candidate.

I noted with interest the relative lack of comments from the leftist members of the court, which in my world means, you don’t gild the lily if you know you are already winning.

Just my $0.02.

I pray that I am wrong.


9 posted on 03/29/2012 5:59:35 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota (Which are you? A producer, a looter, or a moocher of wealth?)
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To: Kaslin
How about "Goodbye Obama"? It's time his fraudulent @$$ was kicked out of the White House.

ML/NJ

10 posted on 03/29/2012 6:04:18 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Huebolt

I get the same creepy feeling. I pray we’re both wrong.


11 posted on 03/29/2012 6:04:48 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Huebolt

That’s my feeling.


12 posted on 03/29/2012 6:07:30 AM PDT by commonguymd (Freedom is a myth anymore it seems)
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To: Kaslin

After Kelo, nothing would surprise me. My guess is they’ll serve hash — the usual.


13 posted on 03/29/2012 6:17:23 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: scooby321
Obama should had appointed a real Lawyer

Should we be surprised that a light weight president surrounds himself with other light weights?

14 posted on 03/29/2012 6:19:36 AM PDT by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: ml/nj

Sounds excellent and perfect to me


15 posted on 03/29/2012 6:19:43 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Huebolt
I get this creepy feeling that the negative aura we sense about the constitutionality point is just the Supreme Court “going through the motions” and that in the end, they’ll cave.

You're not alone in that feeling.

16 posted on 03/29/2012 6:19:43 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Huebolt

The author mentioned a mandate several times. It was not a mandate. 80% of the people are against it. IT IS A POWER GRAB BY THIS PRESIDENT,


17 posted on 03/29/2012 6:20:45 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: Kaslin

It was funny watching “Morning Joe” this morning as Howard Dean, Joe Scarborough, and the other regulars kept talking about how the individual mandate was a Republican idea, and something put in to benefit the insurance companies. Dean assured everyone that the health care plan in Vermont worked perfectly well without it.


18 posted on 03/29/2012 6:29:34 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Huebolt
I get this creepy feeling that the negative aura we sense about the constitutionality point is just the Supreme Court “going through the motions” and that in the end, they’ll cave.

I believe that the justices sense that this ruling is a key point in the future of the country. If they approve this law there is nothing to stop the government. They will rule against the government.

However having been defeated on the fast track to socialism the marxists will take the slow track by expanding medicare incrementally until they achieve the same goal.

19 posted on 03/29/2012 6:33:39 AM PDT by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: Kaslin

The whole thing has to go down, or the residual effects of ObamaCare will STILL destroy the Health Insurance industry.


20 posted on 03/29/2012 6:43:03 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Kaslin
There are no less than four Supreme Court Justices who will never consider the constitutionality as the basis of any law presented before them and therefore they are corrupt right from the get go . I have very little confidence in the Supremes ability to come to the correct decision in this case ,, and recent history supports my fear .
21 posted on 03/29/2012 7:20:23 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: oldbrowser

What the Court must realize, is that if they approve this law, they will make the judicial branch of the country an irrelevancy because all matters will be resolved administratively by the administration bureaucrats.

They can then take the summer off.


22 posted on 03/29/2012 7:27:27 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota (Which are you? A producer, a looter, or a moocher of wealth?)
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The good guys aren’t winning many political battles lately and I’ve learned to expect the worst. It’s working so far.


23 posted on 03/29/2012 1:51:31 PM PDT by Jenny217
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