Martin family lawyer: Video "icing on the cake" ("...that police report is a fabrication.")

CBSNews ^ | March 29, 2012

[maggief]

CBS News) Police surveillance video that appears to conflict with a Florida neighborhood watch volunteer's account of a confrontation with the teenager he eventually gunned down, Trayvon Martin, was called "the icing on the cake" by the Martin family's attorney on "CBS This Morning" Thursday.

Attorney Ben Crump told Erica Hill and Charlie Rose that the video refutes George Zimmerman's claims of shooting Martin in self-defense. The video, obtained by ABC News, shows Zimmerman, without any obvious injuries, being led into police headquarters in Sanford, Fla., after the shooting. Zimmerman's father and lawyer have said Martin attacked Zimmerman in his gated community, breaking his nose with a punch to the face and slamming the back of his head against the sidewalk.

"Thank God for surveillance video," said Crump, "because obviously there was a conspiracy to cover up the truth and sweep Trayvon Martin's death under the rug, and as (Martin's mother) Sybrina Fulton said yesterday upon seeing this video, 'This is the icing on the cake.'"

[maggief]

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20581404,00.html

The next morning, when he woke up, Tracy realized that Trayvon had not returned home.

“I started making calls, and I reached my nephew,” Martin says. “He said he hadn’t seen Trayvon. Then I really started getting worried. So I called the Sheriff’s department to file a missing persons report. I let them know it hadn’t been 24 hours, but it was unusual for Trayvon not to return home.”

Three police cars soon pulled up and a detective asked Tracy for a recent picture of his son. “I had one on my phone, so I showed it to him,” Tracy says, his voice tightening. “He told me he was going to show me a photo and ask if it was my son. He pulled out a photo of Trayvon’s dead body. And the nightmare began.”

[maggief]

“This is just lawyers doing what they are paid to do.”

Yes, it is ... and ABC, CBS, Orlando Sentinnel, etc., are running it as fact.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-28/news/os-trayvon-martin-zimmerman-video-20120328_1_police-video-video-shot-patrol-car

Police video: George Zimmerman was in cuffs but no apparent injuries

[ETL]

It benefits the GOP greatly when some moron Congressman [Bobby Rush] dons a freaking HOOD on the floor of Congress.

It would benefit them more if someone actually had the b*lls to inform people who and what the SOB [Cong Bobby Rush] is: a former communist-revolutionary Black Panther

Roland Burris and Rep. Bobby Rush (speaking)
at a Chicago news conference announcing
Gov. Rod Blagojevich's appointment of
Burris to the U.S. Senate Dec. 30, 2008.
CBS
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From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
PROFILE: BOBBY RUSH:

* Democratic Member of Congress

* Member of the radical Progressive Caucus

* In 1968, went AWOL from the U.S. Army

* Co-founder of the Illinois branch of the Black Panther Party

* In 1969, served six months in jail for an illegal weapons conviction

* Advocates reparations for African Americans

"Bobby Rush has described his involvement with the Black Panthers as part of his maturation process, as a youthful indiscretion that he abandoned immediately after Hampton's death. He described his role mostly as running the Black Panther Party's Free Breakfast for Children program.

But Bobby Rush served six months in jail for a 1969 illegal weapons conviction and, even after his release, in 1971 his comrades were still describing him as the 'Deputy Minister of Defense' for the Black Panther Party in Illinois. In 1992 the socialist magazine In These Times praised fledgling congressional candidate Rush, writing that he 'has continued to support progressive policies and has never disavowed his Panther past...."

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1198
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From the Maoist Internationist Movement:
[1960s/original] Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives
From the article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS

"On May 1st, May Day [1969], the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo. [ie, the police]

Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him.

The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."

To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp."

Source: Maoist Internationist Movement
Article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS (May 11, 1969):
http://web.archive.org/web/20041230150623/http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bpp/index.html
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Fidel Castro meets with 3 visiting US lawmakers
By WILL WEISSERT
April 7, 2009

HAVANA – Signaling its willingness to discuss improved relations with the Obama administration, Cuba on Tuesday granted three visiting members of the Congressional Black Caucus the first meeting with Fidel Castro by American officials since he fell ill in 2006.

[snip]

"Rep. Barbara Lee, D-Calif., current head of the 42-member caucus, said at a news conference in Washington after the group's return that lawmakers met for nearly two hours with Fidel Castro and found him 'very healthy, very energetic, very clear thinking.'

Rep. Laura Richardson, D-Calif., who also met Fidel with Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Ill., said Castro 'looked directly into our eyes' and asked how Cuba could help Obama in his efforts to change the course of U.S. foreign policy . Richardson said she had the impression that 82-year-old Fidel wants to see changes in U.S.-Cuba relations in his lifetime.

Raul Castro, added Lee, 'said everything was on the table.' ..."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090407/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_cuba_us

[3rdcoastislander]

Your welcome. Detective work without leaving your computer is awesome.

[butterdezillion]

It would also make it seem really weird that the girlfriend hadn’t followed up on anything if she really was talking to him on the phone when the fight started. Surely the police would have taken and examined Trayvon’s cell phone...

[Fantasywriter]

Thank you maggie and Cbold for the info. I haven’t followed this case very closely. It sounds like the original report I read [about the unclaimed body] was just more misinformation. Seems like it takes a lot of time to keep up w what is true and not true in this case.

Thanks again.

[UCANSEE2]

You're jumping the shark. You're arguing contrary to fact. The police found no drugs and the drug test on him was negative.

Despite the recent exploration as to the possibility, there seems to be no evidence.

Facts are facts, and if we choose to believe otherwise, then we are no better than them.

Of course, I haven't seen anyone considering the possibility that Mr. Martin hid the drugs (during the period where Mr. Zimmerman 'lost sight' of him,) just before Martin came back to teach that 'white hispanic' a lesson for 'dissing him'.

Lack of evidence (or lack of search) discounts that possibility as well.

The FACTS we have are that Mr. Martin had a cell phone and could have dialed 911, or he could have continued home (he was less than a football field away and had 'lost' Zimmerman).

Instead he chose to solve his 'problem' by beating another man senseless.

I say he made the wrong , and an illegal, choice.

[Rock N Jones]

“head wound is not visible”

The cop studying the back of Zimmerman’s head sure saw something! I doubt it was a cootie!

[Fantasywriter]

That is a good point which hadn’t occurred to me. I wonder if we will ever get all the facts of this case? There are still many unanswered questions. The atty’s comment about ‘icing on the cake’ still chills me, though. What a way to talk about the aftermath of a son’s death.

[maggief]

Seems like it takes a lot of time to keep up w what is true and not true in this case.

Yes, indeed.

FLASHBACK:

[butterdezillion]

A lot of misinformation out there, apparently.

One example. There was a witness who went on TV and radio claiming that there was no fight and that the police refused to take her testimony. The police told that TV station that they had taken a sworn statement from her and that her statement was consistent with Zimmerman’s claims.

The TV station responded by saying that the police have their job, and the media has its job.

I’d love to find out what the TV station believes is its JOB.

It would be easy enough to find out who was telling the truth, simply by looking at her sworn statement.

At this point, though, it sounds like the Martin family would say that the signature on the statement was forged, etc. They are claiming a full-blown conspiracy now.

[boomop1]

I do not wish harm, but they wind up destroying their urban own, and preperty.

[moehoward]

Yes. Lower left corner, an officer is checking out the wound. If you watch the video, he looks at it for a considerable amount of time, indicating it's substantial.

[Cboldt]

-- Seems like it takes a lot of time to keep up w what is true and not true in this case. --

That's true in any case. You can bet, because it is almost 100% certain, that when the story is "big news," the media is wrong, misleading, incomplete, and otherwise creating a false impression of reality. While the facts they publish have to be, for the most part, true, the presentation is never accurate, and never complete. Plus, most of what is presented as "news" is noting more than opinion - and the opinions are almost always based on misunderstanding or misapplication of law; fantasy facts; or a combination of both.

The media is worse than useless, it is a source of problems.

[moehoward]

"I still believe Zippo is going to be forced off the ticket and that's when the real fun starts. "

...and her thighness waddles over to the big chair? Mitty would lose in landslide.

[ETL]

It was mentioned on another thread that drug parlance (slang) is: SKITTLES = Ecstasy.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=skittles

[UCANSEE2]

The media is worse than useless, it is a source of problems.

That's because, long ago, they figured out the only way to sell you more detergent was to give you plenty of dirty laundry.

[Fantasywriter]

“The media is worse than useless, it is a source of problems.”

What you said. Your comments revived an old memory I had nearly forgotten. During the 2000 FL recall, my ex was in Denmark. All he had was CNN Europe. He would listen to the reports and get an idea of what was going on. Then I would write him a once-a-day digest gleaned mostly from what was posted on FR. My ex told me my summary was mirror opposite to what CNN was reporting—but my summaries turned out to be 99.9 percent accurate.

Now the time it took to sift through all the info to get to the facts is another story. When the MSM is spinning everything to advance their narrative, the truth is a tough commodity to distill. It looks like the Trayvon case is very similar. So much of what’s been reported is categorically untrue. I wish there was a site that kept up w what’s known to be true vs the spin. I just don’t have the time these days that I used to have, and I cannot effectively identify all the misinformation.

Thanks again for your help!

[moehoward]

"ok now this is something the media has been hiding for some reason............Zimmerman’s dad is a judge.............."

BS. It's been well reported that his father is a RETIRED judge.

[libstripper]

About hours after the confrontaton, accordig to an article posted by msnbc, more than enough time for the EMTs toclean him up.

[ETL]

Very good. Assuming you did the screen grab and highlighting yourself, mind if I pass it along?

[Fantasywriter]

You’re point is good about the sworn affidavit. I wonder why more is not being done by the police side to correct some of the misinformation. It’s in nobody’s best interest to incite a race war. [Well, nobody except Sharpton, J. Jackson, Obama and the Dems.]

[treetopsandroofs]

“This video plus the chance that he may know some of these cops from all the 911 calls he has made is not good for his already bogus defense.”

Yes, always remember that Big Media cares about YOU and would NEVER mislead you.

Big Media GOOD, facts and logic need not apply.

GEESH, do I need the /s?

Probably so.

[moehoward]

I did, and feel free.

[ETL]

It’s in nobody’s best interest to incite a race war. [Well, nobody except Sharpton, J. Jackson, Obama and the Dems.]

That's what the revolutionary communist "Black Liberation" movement is all about. Obama studied BLT in Wright's phony "church" for 20+ years.

"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410
____________________________________________

From the New York Times, August 24, 2003

"they [the Weather Underground] employed revolutionary jargon, advocated armed struggle and black liberation and began bombing buildings, taking responsibility for at least 20 attacks. Estimates of their number ranged at times from several dozen to several hundred."

Article: Quieter Lives for 60's Militants, but Intensity of Beliefs Hasn't Faded
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E4DE1539F937A1575BC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2
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Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright and Dr. William Ayers
are greeted by Rebekah Levin with the Committee
for a Just Peace in Israel and Palestine.
(Chuck Berman/Chicago Tribune / May 17, 2009)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-ayers_wrightmay18,0,6689521.story

[Terry Mross]

I was a cop for a very short time in the 70s. Two brothers-in-law got into a fight and one shot the other. We had the shooter in the back of the car transporting him to the station when he started saying “I shot the son of bitch. I hope he dies.”

The veteran cop pulled over, gave the guy his rights then told him to shut up and not say another word.” After he was turned over to a detective for questioning the cop told me “There were ten witnesses who saw this so he will be convicted. But I don’t wanta’ be tied up in court for months.

[IMR 4350]

Yep!

Everything in the news right now is an exact repeat of Hillary's 2007 dirty tricks campaign.

In 2007 they went after Imas for “hate speech” against women, and “war on women” now it's Rush.

In 2007 it was the “Jenna 6” and “nooses hanging everywhere” BS they tried using to stir up civil unrest, now it's Trayvon Martin.

I don't have a doubt in my mind, everything we are seeing right now is intended to get Hillary's fat ass into the WH.

[moehoward]

"One example. There was a witness who went on TV and radio claiming that there was no fight and that the police refused to take her testimony..."

Isn't she the one that switched her story? She sounds like an attention whore that will say what ever gives her, her 15 minutes.

[beandog]

I bet it’s even better from your mother’s basement.

[ETL]

Seems like a lot of cops try to avoid “inconvenient” situations like that. I can’t tell you how many times I notified a cop of something going on only to have them either brush me off or go in the other direction. And even when they do respond they often take forever to get there.

[Fantasywriter]

That is a very good, though extremely sobering, condensation of Obama’s goals. He has a very small mind but exceedingly evil intentions. I wish we had somebody other than Romney to challenge him between now and Nov.

Btw, thanks for the Urban Dictionary cut-and-paste. What a resource that place is. Skittles indeed. And Obama’s ‘a little blow when we could get it’ no doubt referred to Kleenex.

/s

[God luvs America]

he was...the funny thing is the story on the ABC news website with the video states exactly that- he was medically treated for his injuries then released and transported in a police cruiser only when he was medically cleared to travel...

it was nothing more than the criminal liberal media creating the news and throwing gas on the fire...

[UCANSEE2]

Well that’s what it sounds like the atty is saying. Sick, but what coming out of that side of this incident is not sick?

Sybrina Fulton said yesterday upon seeing this video, 'This is the icing on the cake.'"

You must understand the 'context' of Sybrina's comment. She has applied for registered trademark of two phrases (I AM TRAYVON and something else equally inane), and with hopes that the video will incite others, she can see the money rolling in.

Heck, some black athletes and movie stars are giving millions to the Black Panthers (who intend on keeping the money).

[UCANSEE2]

It was also reported that Mr. Martin's 'parents' claimed that the first officer on scene was named Zimmerman, and he was Zimmerman's father.

The officer's name is SMITH.

[ETL]

Btw, thanks for the Urban Dictionary cut-and-paste. What a resource that place is. Skittles indeed.

You're welcome, though I doubt the "Skittles" drug slang reference applies in this case. Do you know where the reference comes from? Did he (Trayvon) mention buying 'Skittles' prior to the incident? Still, that alone, even if he meant buying drugs instead of the candy, wouldn't justify the shooting. The nose and head injuries might, however. I'll bet it was a 'sucker punch' that floored Zimmerman allowing the skinny punk the opportunity to then pound him in the head while he lay on the ground.

BTW: it wasn't a cut & paste, but rather a cropped screen capture. :)

[ETL]

Thanks. Again, nice job.

[q_an_a]

how long does it take for swelling to appear? How long does it take to whipe blood off your face and then not have more? Geez you would think that the media never leaves the safety of their control rooms and broadcast centers...wait they don’t expeciall if they live in NYC or LA.

[Wyatt's Torch]

Do these morons actually believe that the police report was falsified? Really? Are they that freaking dumb?

[john9474]

I find it interesting that the Police video does not have a Date-Time stamp in the frame. We have no idea when this video was taken or even if it is real at all. Do we know that it is a Police video or something from the sound stage of ABC.

[Fantasywriter]

I must have read your post wrong. It looked like you were saying Trayvon’s mother is the one who uttered the repulsive comment, ‘This is the icing on the cake’. That simply could not be true. I have a son. It is unthinkable that such a phrase would, under these circumstances, enter my mind. If he died/was killed, there would be no more icing on the cake ever—that is, this side of heaven.

I hope I read your post wrong, anyway. Otherwise...words fail.

[moehoward]

The story coming from Martin’s side has not been real consistent from the beginning. Some of that blame probably lies with the “News Reporters”. But Martin’s father sure has had a problem keeping his story straight.

[Fantasywriter]

I read that his father said Trayvon was going out to buy Skittles for his younger brother, prior to being shot. After having been wrong once on this thread already, I cannot vouch for the accuracy of that quote. It seems that some things which came out early in the incident are simply not true.

As for the cropped screen capture—thanks for explaining that. I knew it looked really good; I just had no idea why. ;)

[ETL]

Do these morons actually believe that the police report was falsified? Really? Are they that freaking dumb?

A lot of people ARE that dumb. However, the communists and race-baiters don't usually believe the crap they propagate. Imagine, in this day and age especially, police tampering with evidence in a murder case to protect someone. The guy wasn't even a cop.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

:: Travon’s father called the police the next day (to report missing son), and learned about the incident later that day. ::

This to me is an interesting aside to the story.

I’ve heard that the altercation/shooting took place some 200 feet (unconfirmed, to my current knowledge) from the apartment where is father was, apparently, watching the NBA All-Star game.

Yet, he missed the gun-shot, the multiple sirens, and the commotion just outside his door.

He did not miss his son -who was staying with him because of disciplinary problems- until the next morning (on his FIRST evening with “Dad”). And, Dad’s first reaction was to see if he had been arrested.

There appear to be some unconnected “dots” in this side-story.

[bonfire]

I read the father and his GF went out to dinner so they were NOT at home when the incident happened. He had the GF make a few calls to see if juvie hall or LE had picked up his son then WENT TO BED.

[Cboldt]

Dad was out, dinner or something. Came home, tried calling Trayvon, got a ring-no-answer. Then called Trayvon's brother or cousin or something, because Trayvon and he would go to the movies, or had in the past. Got ring-no-answer there, too. So, he assumed the kids were out at the movies.

Next morning, no Trayvon, calls brother (or cousin) and finds out the the movie presumption was false.

I'm giving dad the benefit of the doubt - he might be somebody you'd love to have as a best friend.

[chris_bdba]

You are right I know I do not like what I am seeing and hearing from the race baiters.Add in the hispanic community who has to be disgusted that one of their own is being targeted and lynched.....

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

Thanks for that bit. Clears a few things up but leads to some more wonderings.

The 1st night at Dad’s for disciplinary reasons and Dad leaves him alone with his little brother, ostensibly to watch the game.

Dad let’s him head to the 7/11 to get skittles while knowing he (dad) won’t be home when travon gets back.

I guess i’ll chalk this up as “bad parenting”.

[little jeremiah]

The police found no drugs and the drug test on him was negative.

That's the first I've heard of any toxicology results. Do you have a link/source?

[Kickass Conservative]

The initial information said he was 5'9”, 200 pounds and Travon was 6'3”, 160 pounds.