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Shy Boy and his Friend Shock the Audience with The Prayer - Unbelievable
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Posted on 03/29/2012 6:56:04 AM PDT by keypro

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1 posted on 03/29/2012 6:56:06 AM PDT by keypro
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To: keypro
I saw this yesterday. This young man has an extremely rare type of voice. He's a heldentenor.

"Heldentenor" is German for "Heroic tenor". This is the voice type necessary to sing the most dramatic Wagnerian tenor roles - Siegfried, Lohengrin, Parsifal, etc. - and some Italian roles - Otello, Radames, etc.

The note he hits at the end of the song is a B flat. He makes it sounds easy, even with his dark timbre, and he's only 17! I don't know if he's interested in opera, but if he is, he needs to be accepted into the Guildhall immediately so some charlatan doesn't get hold of him and ruin this glorious natural instrument.

2 posted on 03/29/2012 7:04:23 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: keypro
The young man has some great pipes but the young lady has a problem staying on pitch.
Altogether, a stunning performance.
3 posted on 03/29/2012 7:05:45 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: keypro

looks like Hurley from LOST


4 posted on 03/29/2012 7:08:41 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: sneakers

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5 posted on 03/29/2012 7:11:05 AM PDT by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: keypro

Thank you. What a glorious way to start this beautiful day!


6 posted on 03/29/2012 7:12:34 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: keypro; Dr. Thorne

That was wonderful, thanks for posting!

Can either you, keypro, or Dr. Thorne recommend music to buy that is similar to this? Opera, male/female duet, fresh, maybe with a heldentenor? I want to hear more music like this. Today!


7 posted on 03/29/2012 7:14:21 AM PDT by fullchroma
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Agree with you. He is amazing ... she has her moments, but does have some pitch problems.

WOW, though!


8 posted on 03/29/2012 7:17:07 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (chirping birds + basket weavers who sit + smile + twiddle their thumbs + toes They're coming to take)
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To: MNDude

I love Hurley.

You can always close your eyes if appearances put you off. Beautiful voice.


9 posted on 03/29/2012 7:18:57 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: keypro

His voice put the orchestra to shame. Orchestra should have turned its volume down.


10 posted on 03/29/2012 7:19:54 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: fullchroma

I awoke this morning with this song “The Prayer” playing in my head. Moments later, I came upon this video. It sorta gave me chills and a bit of blurry vision. As for this kind of music, I will defer to the good Dr Thorne.


11 posted on 03/29/2012 7:20:02 AM PDT by keypro (Dubyateaef)
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To: keypro

Just beautiful!! I loved it. Thanks for posting this.


12 posted on 03/29/2012 7:26:26 AM PDT by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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To: keypro
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13 posted on 03/29/2012 7:27:51 AM PDT by keypro (Dubyateaef)
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To: Dr. Thorne; windcliff; stylecouncilor

Baritone is more like it. And a damned good one!

w, s, you’ve got to see and hear this.


14 posted on 03/29/2012 7:40:22 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: keypro

Saw this yesterday and was totally blown away. Not knowing a thing about music, I do agree with Simon - I wasn’t a big fan of the gal.


15 posted on 03/29/2012 7:40:38 AM PDT by peggybac
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; AnAmericanMother
the young lady has a problem staying on pitch.

I can't speak for her, but I would have made sure I knew the piece inside out so that I wouldn't have any pitch problems on stage. I don't have perfect pitch so I need to practice a piece until I have the tune "in my head" before I can sing it with confidence. Just my two cents.

16 posted on 03/29/2012 7:46:20 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Unless you can match his vocal quality-vibrato and sound- it is very difficult to sing with an operatic tenor. She has a pop sound to her voice and no matter how good she sings they will never match up vocally and blend.

It is also very very difficult to hear yourself when singing with someone of his vocal stature-you have to have perfect pitch because you can barely hear the orchestra when next to that kind of tenor.

The one thing I truly loved about it was I kept thinking what a sense of humor God has-he always gives heavenly gifts to the shy, the unusual looking-and then sits back and watches us just melt and see his beauty as we listen to a truly gifted singer...bravo!

Mrs Ct Hillbilly....former Opera singer


17 posted on 03/29/2012 7:53:52 AM PDT by CT Hillbilly (Thoughts=Words=Actions=Destiny)
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To: keypro

Well, that makes me a bit weepy. Opera houses are waiting for this young man. Aside from Simon, I find judges on these shows so dopey.

That gal is a good friend!


18 posted on 03/29/2012 7:55:18 AM PDT by mancini
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To: ELS

She may not have been fully aware of her limitations before this. These kids are teens without a lot of training. Also it is very different singing in those conditions than singing in the classroom or the school assembly hall. I give her kudos for sticking by him and supporting him, putting herself out there for him, especially knowing how nasty Simon could be. You could see how uncomfortable they both were.


19 posted on 03/29/2012 7:56:22 AM PDT by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this...")
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To: ELS

Agree but being very shy myself she had to be there for him to perform!!


20 posted on 03/29/2012 7:59:02 AM PDT by PROTESTBYPROXY (We are screaming! I am Breitbart!! Invictus Maneo)
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To: ELS

Indeed. Practice does make perfect. It could easily be nerves. But if they’ve rehearsed this piece enough, she should have been able to ‘keep up’ a bit better. But they clearly have an affinity for each other and I’m sure they have sung this piece perfectly at other times.


21 posted on 03/29/2012 8:02:40 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: keypro; Publius

Wonderful!
Ping to a Friend..
Publius, I hope you enjoy this!


22 posted on 03/29/2012 8:04:31 AM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: Bookwoman

Those are all good points.


23 posted on 03/29/2012 8:05:14 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: CT Hillbilly
It is also very very difficult to hear yourself when singing with someone of his vocal stature

Agree totally. I have sung onstage many times and have never had more difficulty "hitting the note" as when I had to do a duet. Especially when a passage comes that requires perfect harmony. (i.e. "I've Never Been in Love Before" - Guys and Dolls)

It takes supreme concentration to tune out your partner and perform your part. It takes lots of rehearsing and you have to put yourself inside the music and strive NOT to be a spectator and appreciate your partner's efforts. Often times that is extemely difficult.

24 posted on 03/29/2012 8:11:26 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: MS.BEHAVIN

He’s definitely a Wagnerian heldentenor. It’s a rare gift. With training, he could be another Ben Heppner.


25 posted on 03/29/2012 8:13:50 AM PDT by Publius (Tagline for rent. Reasonable rates.)
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To: CT Hillbilly

Your 3rd paragraph is very well-said. I love when God blesses us all in unlikely ways. There are always kids who seem to have it rougher than others - either they’re bullied, made fun off and have few or no friends. As they approach teen years, they withdraw, rarely attend social events, are seen as odd... As a parent of one of those kiddos, I know the story and the pain well.

But then one day, it’s as though the chrysalis is opened, and from there emerges something that makes everyone pause. It’s as if overnight, a life is renewed and there is sunshine where once there was rain. Everyone who did the teasing has been afforded an opportunity to learn a great lesson and share it.

How heartwarming that Jonathan would stand by his friend. And as Simon said, there *is* a beautiful sound coming from the two of them together.

I think *this* is Jonathan’s moment. :)


26 posted on 03/29/2012 8:25:09 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (chirping birds + basket weavers who sit + smile + twiddle their thumbs + toes They're coming to take)
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To: fullchroma
See Andea Bocelli on youtube. He does many duets that are great. Not young and fresh, but great.
27 posted on 03/29/2012 8:26:04 AM PDT by topsail
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To: keypro

Thanks for posting. I’ve been crying like a baby since watching this. So deeply touching. I never expected something so Beautiful. Unforgettable.


28 posted on 03/29/2012 8:45:04 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: keypro

wow just wow


29 posted on 03/29/2012 8:53:52 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: topsail

I forgot to mention that Andrea Bocelli is without sight since he was a young boy but still climbed to the top as an opera and pop singer, and still has an humble attitude.


30 posted on 03/29/2012 8:56:43 AM PDT by topsail
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“The young man has some great pipes but the young lady has a problem staying on pitch.
Altogether, a stunning performance. “

Her part was to get him on stage. She played her part magnificently. Good on her.


31 posted on 03/29/2012 9:04:59 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: CT Hillbilly
Our choir director occasionally has us mix up during practice. There is this incredible soprano who must think that I hate her. This baritone stays as far away from her as possible!
32 posted on 03/29/2012 9:45:06 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: keypro
I am not a fan of opera or operatic voices but WOW!
33 posted on 03/29/2012 10:00:56 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Persevero
Her part was to get him on stage.

Excellent point.

34 posted on 03/29/2012 10:07:35 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

I agree, Heldentenor. He appears to be singing well within his range (probably for security’s sake), and he’s got the massive dark sound to carry Wagner.
He needs better music and some high quality coaching. A big tenor voice can be ruined by bad instruction (even at the university level). What’s the British equivalent of Juilliard?
As for the young lady, her pitch overall is not bad and when she ‘scoops’ a note she quickly corrects. She just does not have the horsepower to sing a duet with her friend . . . I know, I’m a journeyman alto myself and for years I stood right in front of our Heldentenor (who is now at Juilliard). He could drown me (and the rest of the choir) out without even trying hard . . . and it is difficult to keep your own pitch in the face of that level of sound. The concentration and relative pitch required only come with practice and experience (don’t need perfect pitch, I’ve never had it but I know it’s a curse because my husband DOES have it). She’s young (and so is he) - it will come.


35 posted on 03/29/2012 10:33:35 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
What’s the British equivalent of Juilliard?

The Royal Academy.

36 posted on 03/29/2012 10:35:33 AM PDT by Publius (Tagline for rent. Reasonable rates.)
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To: keypro

Unbelievable. He is absolutely amazing. He was shaking the whole time. That was literally a life changing moment.


37 posted on 03/29/2012 10:42:02 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: fullchroma
Just my 2 cents . . .

You'll hear some fine duets and trios in Mozart. My favorite is Bei Männern, welche Liebe fühlen (lyric baritone & soprano) from Zauberflöte/ Magic Flute. (Don't worry if you don't recognize the words - it's all in Swedish. Bergman. Best movie of Magic Flute ever made. I believe it's still available.)

There's a nifty duet in the same opera by the two armored men guarding the dungeon . . . Der, welcher wandert diese Straße. Hang with it and you'll hear the tenor/soprano duet afterwards. Plus you can hear real soprano fireworks from the Queen of the Night. This is an excellent version (I have it): Von Karajan and the Vienna Philharmonic

About the only place you'll hear a Heldentenor is in Wagner, and "fresh" is not the first thing that comes to mind when I think of old Richard. Mozart is the place to start - he has a much lighter touch.

38 posted on 03/29/2012 11:18:45 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Publius
Aren't they more geared towards English music (i.e. art songs, oratorio) than opera?

Actually I prefer those, but this young man's voice is a bit outsize for that.

39 posted on 03/29/2012 11:20:50 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: CT Hillbilly

What you said!


40 posted on 03/29/2012 11:22:19 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
The Royal Academy handles everything.

There was a lieder school at Aldeburgh run by Benjemin Britten and Peter Pears, but now that they're gone, I don't think the school still exists.

41 posted on 03/29/2012 12:25:01 PM PDT by Publius (Tagline for rent. Reasonable rates.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I agree, his voice is so massive, that I think any soprano is going to have trouble being drowned out by it, and as others have pointed out, knowing where your voice is without hearing it, when accompany someone else, especially someone with such raw power would be difficult

I’d like to hear her solo, to see how she does, I think she’s getting dinged a bit unfairly.

I do agree, that that issue may hold him back in the contest, vs him being solo, but based on what was said in the interviews, without her there, I think he’d never have walked on that stage.


42 posted on 03/29/2012 12:39:28 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: AnAmericanMother
The UK equivalent of Julliard is called the Guildhall School of Music & Drama. They have very good people who would know what to do with this kind of voice. They wouldn't push him into deep water too early.

That said, good teachers only keep students from making mistakes. I've seen many singers who studied with great teachers and, yet, never had much of a career. Great talent beats great teaching everytime.

My first serious voice teacher told me, "The student makes the teacher, not the other way around".

43 posted on 03/29/2012 1:40:07 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: fullchroma
There are plenty of recital CDs by great heldentenors, but few will include duets. Wagner wrote very few duets for ANY voices. It was all solo.

Among the great tenors of yesteryear, the heldentenor to beat them all was Lauritz Melchior, also called the Great Dane. The quality of the recordings are not up to today's standards, but the voice! What a voice! And his singing was always effortless. He sang at the Metropolitan Opera into his 70s!

For a real dark voice like Jonathan's try Ramon Vinay. The Canadian Jon Vickers is another of my faves along with American Jess Thomas. These were great singers of the 1940s, 50s, 60s and 70s.

Nowadays there are few great ones. Two of my favorites are South African Johan Botha and German Jonas Kaufmann. Neither has a voice as dark as Jonathan's, but their techniques and range of color and dynamics are superb!

44 posted on 03/29/2012 2:13:29 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

And it was so wonderful to see that whole roomful of people blessed at the same time to hear a voice from Heaven. I like to think of them as mini-miracles; to see and feel all of those people go from disbelief that someone who *looks* like *that* could have anything to offer,to absolute amazement and joy was incredible.

God is so great!

The Mrs


45 posted on 03/29/2012 2:20:02 PM PDT by CT Hillbilly (Thoughts=Words=Actions=Destiny)
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To: CrazyIvan

I used to have people in choir who either would kill to stand next to me if they were singing my part (alto-I’m a mezzo) or speak to the choir director in private to be moved as far away from me as possible.

It’s hard to blend when you have an operatic type of voice and you’re singing with regular singers. I’d have to work hard not to stick out, but sometimes the director would beg me to because no one else knew the part!

I never took it personally-never had any attitude. People always expect you to, but they have to have as much fun singing as I do, so if they want to move, I don’t mind.


46 posted on 03/29/2012 2:28:06 PM PDT by CT Hillbilly (Thoughts=Words=Actions=Destiny)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Too bad my husband doesn’t sing; he’s mastered the tuning out thing! ;)

I used to sing duets with a tenor who had tremendous power in his voice-I could feel my ears and body vibrating when he would sing his high notes A and up.

I directed the music for Guys and Dolls for a local theatre group-one of my fav shows!!

The Mrs


47 posted on 03/29/2012 2:35:50 PM PDT by CT Hillbilly (Thoughts=Words=Actions=Destiny)
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To: Persevero
Her part was to get him on stage. She played her part magnificently. Good on her.

Musically, he might not need her. Emotionally and spiritually, he does need her.

48 posted on 03/29/2012 2:50:01 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: keypro

God gives everyone gifts. But it is always amazing to see how certain gifts can move hearts, when engaged. The young man has an amazing voice.


49 posted on 03/29/2012 3:17:22 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (In self-evident truth, in timeless principle, in the people themselves, lie our republic's only hope)
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To: Persevero
Her part was to get him on stage.

That's what I was thinking too. He needed to have her by his side to give him the confidence to go on stage. Poor guy was just terrified. He was just shaking the whole time. With some more training and exposure I'm sure his self-confidence will grow. She's being a good friend.

50 posted on 03/29/2012 3:28:50 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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