Skip to comments.Shy Boy and his Friend Shock the Audience with The Prayer - Unbelievable
Posted on 03/29/2012 6:56:04 AM PDT by keypro
"Heldentenor" is German for "Heroic tenor". This is the voice type necessary to sing the most dramatic Wagnerian tenor roles - Siegfried, Lohengrin, Parsifal, etc. - and some Italian roles - Otello, Radames, etc.
The note he hits at the end of the song is a B flat. He makes it sounds easy, even with his dark timbre, and he's only 17! I don't know if he's interested in opera, but if he is, he needs to be accepted into the Guildhall immediately so some charlatan doesn't get hold of him and ruin this glorious natural instrument.
looks like Hurley from LOST
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Thank you. What a glorious way to start this beautiful day!
That was wonderful, thanks for posting!
Can either you, keypro, or Dr. Thorne recommend music to buy that is similar to this? Opera, male/female duet, fresh, maybe with a heldentenor? I want to hear more music like this. Today!
Agree with you. He is amazing ... she has her moments, but does have some pitch problems.
I love Hurley.
You can always close your eyes if appearances put you off. Beautiful voice.
His voice put the orchestra to shame. Orchestra should have turned its volume down.
I awoke this morning with this song “The Prayer” playing in my head. Moments later, I came upon this video. It sorta gave me chills and a bit of blurry vision. As for this kind of music, I will defer to the good Dr Thorne.
Just beautiful!! I loved it. Thanks for posting this.
Baritone is more like it. And a damned good one!
w, s, you’ve got to see and hear this.
Saw this yesterday and was totally blown away. Not knowing a thing about music, I do agree with Simon - I wasn’t a big fan of the gal.
I can't speak for her, but I would have made sure I knew the piece inside out so that I wouldn't have any pitch problems on stage. I don't have perfect pitch so I need to practice a piece until I have the tune "in my head" before I can sing it with confidence. Just my two cents.
Unless you can match his vocal quality-vibrato and sound- it is very difficult to sing with an operatic tenor. She has a pop sound to her voice and no matter how good she sings they will never match up vocally and blend.
It is also very very difficult to hear yourself when singing with someone of his vocal stature-you have to have perfect pitch because you can barely hear the orchestra when next to that kind of tenor.
The one thing I truly loved about it was I kept thinking what a sense of humor God has-he always gives heavenly gifts to the shy, the unusual looking-and then sits back and watches us just melt and see his beauty as we listen to a truly gifted singer...bravo!
Mrs Ct Hillbilly....former Opera singer
Well, that makes me a bit weepy. Opera houses are waiting for this young man. Aside from Simon, I find judges on these shows so dopey.
That gal is a good friend!
She may not have been fully aware of her limitations before this. These kids are teens without a lot of training. Also it is very different singing in those conditions than singing in the classroom or the school assembly hall. I give her kudos for sticking by him and supporting him, putting herself out there for him, especially knowing how nasty Simon could be. You could see how uncomfortable they both were.
Agree but being very shy myself she had to be there for him to perform!!
Indeed. Practice does make perfect. It could easily be nerves. But if they’ve rehearsed this piece enough, she should have been able to ‘keep up’ a bit better. But they clearly have an affinity for each other and I’m sure they have sung this piece perfectly at other times.
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Publius, I hope you enjoy this!
Those are all good points.
Agree totally. I have sung onstage many times and have never had more difficulty "hitting the note" as when I had to do a duet. Especially when a passage comes that requires perfect harmony. (i.e. "I've Never Been in Love Before" - Guys and Dolls)
It takes supreme concentration to tune out your partner and perform your part. It takes lots of rehearsing and you have to put yourself inside the music and strive NOT to be a spectator and appreciate your partner's efforts. Often times that is extemely difficult.
He’s definitely a Wagnerian heldentenor. It’s a rare gift. With training, he could be another Ben Heppner.
Your 3rd paragraph is very well-said. I love when God blesses us all in unlikely ways. There are always kids who seem to have it rougher than others - either they’re bullied, made fun off and have few or no friends. As they approach teen years, they withdraw, rarely attend social events, are seen as odd... As a parent of one of those kiddos, I know the story and the pain well.
But then one day, it’s as though the chrysalis is opened, and from there emerges something that makes everyone pause. It’s as if overnight, a life is renewed and there is sunshine where once there was rain. Everyone who did the teasing has been afforded an opportunity to learn a great lesson and share it.
How heartwarming that Jonathan would stand by his friend. And as Simon said, there *is* a beautiful sound coming from the two of them together.
I think *this* is Jonathan’s moment. :)
Thanks for posting. I’ve been crying like a baby since watching this. So deeply touching. I never expected something so Beautiful. Unforgettable.
wow just wow
I forgot to mention that Andrea Bocelli is without sight since he was a young boy but still climbed to the top as an opera and pop singer, and still has an humble attitude.
“The young man has some great pipes but the young lady has a problem staying on pitch.
Altogether, a stunning performance. “
Her part was to get him on stage. She played her part magnificently. Good on her.
I agree, Heldentenor. He appears to be singing well within his range (probably for security’s sake), and he’s got the massive dark sound to carry Wagner.
He needs better music and some high quality coaching. A big tenor voice can be ruined by bad instruction (even at the university level). What’s the British equivalent of Juilliard?
As for the young lady, her pitch overall is not bad and when she ‘scoops’ a note she quickly corrects. She just does not have the horsepower to sing a duet with her friend . . . I know, I’m a journeyman alto myself and for years I stood right in front of our Heldentenor (who is now at Juilliard). He could drown me (and the rest of the choir) out without even trying hard . . . and it is difficult to keep your own pitch in the face of that level of sound. The concentration and relative pitch required only come with practice and experience (don’t need perfect pitch, I’ve never had it but I know it’s a curse because my husband DOES have it). She’s young (and so is he) - it will come.
The Royal Academy.
Unbelievable. He is absolutely amazing. He was shaking the whole time. That was literally a life changing moment.
You'll hear some fine duets and trios in Mozart. My favorite is Bei Männern, welche Liebe fühlen (lyric baritone & soprano) from Zauberflöte/ Magic Flute. (Don't worry if you don't recognize the words - it's all in Swedish. Bergman. Best movie of Magic Flute ever made. I believe it's still available.)
There's a nifty duet in the same opera by the two armored men guarding the dungeon . . . Der, welcher wandert diese Straße. Hang with it and you'll hear the tenor/soprano duet afterwards. Plus you can hear real soprano fireworks from the Queen of the Night. This is an excellent version (I have it): Von Karajan and the Vienna Philharmonic
About the only place you'll hear a Heldentenor is in Wagner, and "fresh" is not the first thing that comes to mind when I think of old Richard. Mozart is the place to start - he has a much lighter touch.
Actually I prefer those, but this young man's voice is a bit outsize for that.
What you said!
There was a lieder school at Aldeburgh run by Benjemin Britten and Peter Pears, but now that they're gone, I don't think the school still exists.
I agree, his voice is so massive, that I think any soprano is going to have trouble being drowned out by it, and as others have pointed out, knowing where your voice is without hearing it, when accompany someone else, especially someone with such raw power would be difficult
I’d like to hear her solo, to see how she does, I think she’s getting dinged a bit unfairly.
I do agree, that that issue may hold him back in the contest, vs him being solo, but based on what was said in the interviews, without her there, I think he’d never have walked on that stage.
That said, good teachers only keep students from making mistakes. I've seen many singers who studied with great teachers and, yet, never had much of a career. Great talent beats great teaching everytime.
My first serious voice teacher told me, "The student makes the teacher, not the other way around".
Among the great tenors of yesteryear, the heldentenor to beat them all was Lauritz Melchior, also called the Great Dane. The quality of the recordings are not up to today's standards, but the voice! What a voice! And his singing was always effortless. He sang at the Metropolitan Opera into his 70s!
For a real dark voice like Jonathan's try Ramon Vinay. The Canadian Jon Vickers is another of my faves along with American Jess Thomas. These were great singers of the 1940s, 50s, 60s and 70s.
Nowadays there are few great ones. Two of my favorites are South African Johan Botha and German Jonas Kaufmann. Neither has a voice as dark as Jonathan's, but their techniques and range of color and dynamics are superb!
And it was so wonderful to see that whole roomful of people blessed at the same time to hear a voice from Heaven. I like to think of them as mini-miracles; to see and feel all of those people go from disbelief that someone who *looks* like *that* could have anything to offer,to absolute amazement and joy was incredible.
God is so great!
I used to have people in choir who either would kill to stand next to me if they were singing my part (alto-I’m a mezzo) or speak to the choir director in private to be moved as far away from me as possible.
It’s hard to blend when you have an operatic type of voice and you’re singing with regular singers. I’d have to work hard not to stick out, but sometimes the director would beg me to because no one else knew the part!
I never took it personally-never had any attitude. People always expect you to, but they have to have as much fun singing as I do, so if they want to move, I don’t mind.
Too bad my husband doesn’t sing; he’s mastered the tuning out thing! ;)
I used to sing duets with a tenor who had tremendous power in his voice-I could feel my ears and body vibrating when he would sing his high notes A and up.
I directed the music for Guys and Dolls for a local theatre group-one of my fav shows!!
Musically, he might not need her. Emotionally and spiritually, he does need her.
God gives everyone gifts. But it is always amazing to see how certain gifts can move hearts, when engaged. The young man has an amazing voice.
That's what I was thinking too. He needed to have her by his side to give him the confidence to go on stage. Poor guy was just terrified. He was just shaking the whole time. With some more training and exposure I'm sure his self-confidence will grow. She's being a good friend.