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Network names 13-year-old witness! (Drudge's Title)
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Posted on 03/29/2012 9:49:13 AM PDT by MNDude

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To: MNDude

So, soon a drive-by will occur in the neighborhood or at school, and the media will be at fault?


61 posted on 03/29/2012 11:39:58 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: ryan71

“Austin Brown had better not be.......”

without protection. And a lawyer.


62 posted on 03/29/2012 11:41:16 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: hoosiermama

:: IIRC in his initial report he stated TM was on top. ::

So, my “selective editing” by the media was probably correct.


63 posted on 03/29/2012 11:41:50 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: GreenHornet

Now Spike Lee and Roseanne Barr can tweet the kid’s home address.


64 posted on 03/29/2012 11:43:15 AM PDT by bgill
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To: MNDude

bttt


65 posted on 03/29/2012 11:43:43 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (How do you say Arkanicide in Kenyan?)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel; maggief

Yelp.

If you haven’t read the initial police reports etc it’s worth the time. If nothing more to recognize the BS and blank spots when you read the MSM articles.

Maggief posted everything again today, and yesterday, and....Just do a search on her name.


66 posted on 03/29/2012 11:46:51 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: Paine in the Neck

Ironic, the same press that cannot print anything about His Excellencies backgroud because they never looked, can crawl through every nook and craney to find out info on this shooting. Amazingly indictable.


67 posted on 03/29/2012 11:48:35 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: PapaBear3625

Another question:
Would it be possible to shot someone with the gun still in the holster?


68 posted on 03/29/2012 11:51:01 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: Moonman62

Really?

I doubt that. Where is an arrest report?

Zimmerman was not arrested, just detained. And later - after 5 hours of questioning - he was released with no charges filed.

Detained - not arrested.

Big difference.


69 posted on 03/29/2012 11:53:55 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: aruanan
He was arrested, but not charged.
 
 
Nope. See post 69.


70 posted on 03/29/2012 11:56:38 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: hoosiermama

Thanks for note. I’ve read them 3-4 times already and have a quick-link to them for reference.


71 posted on 03/29/2012 12:01:03 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: hoosiermama
Would it be possible to shot someone with the gun still in the holster?

Yes. If the trigger mechanism is activated while in a holster the gun will fire.

72 posted on 03/29/2012 12:10:24 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Ajnin

What kind of evidence would be left in the holster if any?


73 posted on 03/29/2012 12:16:46 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: greatvikingone

FTA: the witnesses’ mom isn’t saying it wasn’t self-defense. She’s saying the cop who interviewed her son said it wasn’t self-defense.


74 posted on 03/29/2012 12:18:31 PM PDT by I Shall Endure
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To: Ajnin
Could the holster cause the cartilage not to eject?
75 posted on 03/29/2012 12:24:39 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Really? I doubt that. Where is an arrest report? Zimmerman was not arrested, just detained. And later - after 5 hours of questioning - he was released with no charges filed. Detained - not arrested. Big difference.

Look up Florida's "Stop and frisk law." Once someone has been briefly detained and questioned, the police have two options, let the person go or arrest them due to probable cause. Once someone has been moved from the scene, it's no longer considered a brief detention.

76 posted on 03/29/2012 12:30:05 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: hoosiermama
Would it be possible to shot someone with the gun still in the holster?

It might be. It depends on the holster. One of the main purposes of a holster is to shield the trigger from being pressed while still in the holster. But if the gun fired while in the holster, then Zimmerman would have been shot in the leg, rather than Martin getting shot in the chest.

77 posted on 03/29/2012 12:32:51 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: PapaBear3625

We don’t know where Martin was except on top. If they were fighting over the gun as Z said, and the gun was at his side in the holster when the first policeman arrived, I question if the gun got totally out of the holster.

On FOX just now they played one of the 911 calls.(from a woman) Voice could be heard calling for help and during it the gun went off.


78 posted on 03/29/2012 12:40:44 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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To: hoosiermama

strictly speculating. It could be that the gun was always in the holster. Martin decked zimmerman. (and as reported was pounding away on him with zimmerman) zimerman is calling for help and at that point martin realizes zimerman has a holstered gun. That is when the struggle for the gun ensues. Of course this is all speculation but for martin being on top hitting and zimerman calling for help.


79 posted on 03/29/2012 12:45:42 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Moonman62
OK, I looked it up.
 
You are still wrong. He was not arrested, only detained.
 

901.151 Stop and Frisk Law.

(1)  This section may be known and cited as the "Florida Stop and Frisk Law."

(2)  Whenever any law enforcement officer of this state encounters any person under circumstances which reasonably indicate that such person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a violation of the criminal laws of this state or the criminal ordinances of any municipality or county, the officer may temporarily detain such person for the purpose of ascertaining the identity of the person temporarily detained and the circumstances surrounding the person's presence abroad which led the officer to believe that the person had committed, was committing, or was about to commit a criminal offense.

(3)  No person shall be temporarily detained under the provisions of subsection (2) longer than is reasonably necessary to effect the purposes of that subsection. Such temporary detention shall not extend beyond the place where it was first effected or the immediate vicinity thereof.

(4)  If at any time after the onset of the temporary detention authorized by subsection (2), probable cause for arrest of person shall appear, the person shall be arrested. If, after an inquiry into the circumstances which prompted the temporary detention, no probable cause for the arrest of the person shall appear, the person shall be released.

(5)  Whenever any law enforcement officer authorized to detain temporarily any person under the provisions of subsection (2) has probable cause to believe that any person whom the officer has temporarily detained, or is about to detain temporarily, is armed with a dangerous weapon and therefore offers a threat to the safety of the officer or any other person, the officer may search such person so temporarily detained only to the extent necessary to disclose, and for the purpose of disclosing, the presence of such weapon. If such a search discloses such a weapon or any evidence of a criminal offense it may be seized.

(6)  No evidence seized by a law enforcement officer in any search under this section shall be admissible against any person in any court of this state or political subdivision thereof unless the search which disclosed its existence was authorized by and conducted in compliance with the provisions of subsections (2)-(5).

80 posted on 03/29/2012 12:45:58 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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