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Forced marriage: Girl aged five among 400 minors helped
BBC News ^ | 03/30/2012 | BBC News

Posted on 03/30/2012 3:49:41 AM PDT by EnglishCon

A five-year-old girl is thought to have become the UK's youngest victim of forced marriage.

She was one of 400 children to receive assistance from the government's Forced Marriage Unit in the last year.

The figures have emerged as the public consultation into criminalising forced marriage in England, Wales and Northern Ireland comes to an end.

Amy Cumming, joint head of the Forced Marriage Unit, said 29% of the cases it dealt with last year involved minors.

"The youngest of these was actually five years old, so there are children involved in the practice across the school age range," she said.

To protect the child, the authorities have not disclosed details of the case or where the marriage took place.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: childbrides; islam; moralabsolutes; wrong
It is probably a waste of time to ask this, but lets not slam just on Islam. This is a wrong, no matter what religion it is done under. It is a cause and a group I believe in and support, and since they are in the news, one worth discussing.
1 posted on 03/30/2012 3:49:45 AM PDT by EnglishCon
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To: EnglishCon

I respect your wishes, but to leave out islam is to look away from the truth, I think your effort to help these folks is wonderful, but we cannot be so weak that we cannot point to what the issues are in the name of offending them...I know a few muslim folks and they have the same viewpoint, its mt religion don’t run it down, as I tell them I respect their right to believe as they wish..after years of talking we can speak honestly about the differences, I am brutal about Mohamm, and what I consider to be the lies that enslaved a billion souls without God being at the end of the tunnel, and he says Christianity is fake, I have enjoyed the honest brutal discussions...we have to be honest to solve the issues...oh well..


2 posted on 03/30/2012 3:57:22 AM PDT by aces
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To: aces

You and I seem to have the same outlook.

I just wanted to stop the knee jerk reactions. Have people see and understand the total horror of this, rather than just write it off as “Muzzies, what can you expect.”


3 posted on 03/30/2012 4:02:44 AM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: EnglishCon

Bump


4 posted on 03/30/2012 4:03:42 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: EnglishCon

I understand..peace in Christ..


5 posted on 03/30/2012 4:05:58 AM PDT by aces
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To: EnglishCon
Muhammad the prophet of Islam married a 6 year old girl.This is why Muslims do this and war etc. : because they follow Muhamad’s example and the Koran.

Islam is a bunch of lies . Muhammad invented it to gain power and to do perverse things such as marrying a 6 year old girl.

6 posted on 03/30/2012 4:12:30 AM PDT by rurgan (Make all laws have an expiration date of 3 years. too many laws is the problem)
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To: aces

And his peace be upon you, FRiend.

I just cannot abide this. Had a stint doing a story on the Thai child prostitute thing and it disillusioned me on every religion, or the cowards that hide behind morality while being totally immoral.


7 posted on 03/30/2012 4:18:19 AM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: rurgan

Thanks for injecting some common sense in this thread. To try to leave Islam out of this discussion is like trying to leave drugs out of a discussion of crack addiction.

Islam is the drug. Islam is the addiction.


8 posted on 03/30/2012 4:22:28 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: EnglishCon

I tried to knee jerk when I was reading the headlines,
Then I tried to knee jerk on the excerpt,
Then i loaded up that huge BBC link on my phone
and i verified my knee jerk.


9 posted on 03/30/2012 4:23:26 AM PDT by nixonsnose (Let's see all you lawyers argue your way out of hell.)
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To: rurgan
Islam is a bunch of lies . Muhammad invented it to gain power and to do perverse things such as marrying a 6 year old girl.

Such infantile reasoning. He didn't invent Islam in order to do that. He did that because it was standard practice throughout his world, as it was throughout most of the world throughout most of human history. See other chapters at the same site. The author's attempt to explain Christian theology in terms of his basic thesis is pretty tortured, but the references are plentiful to support the descriptions that show the good old days weren't very good.
10 posted on 03/30/2012 4:32:07 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: EnglishCon
but lets not slam just on Islam.

There may be another religion that allows forced marriage of a 5 year old but I can't think of any, can you?

Islam is a murderous cult.

11 posted on 03/30/2012 4:33:17 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Haggai 1, V6.. and he that earneth wages earneth wages to put it into a bag with holes. (My plight))
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To: Graybeard58

As referred to previously, I had 3 months in Thailand, looking into child prostitution (sometimes I hate my job!). A good 90% of their “clients” were supposed Christians from the USA or from Europe.

I am not what you would call rational on this point, and every culture has these scum.


12 posted on 03/30/2012 4:39:35 AM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: Graybeard58

This is taking place in the UK, and people are worried about knee jerk reactions?

wow


13 posted on 03/30/2012 4:45:18 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: EnglishCon

“Had a stint doing a story on the Thai child prostitute thing and it disillusioned me on every religion,”

So it suprises you that immoral people will lie and use religion to further their evil purposes? So you discount every ‘religion’ because of that?


14 posted on 03/30/2012 4:47:27 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: aruanan

Muhammad invented Islam. “It” is Islam.Muhammad invented Islam to gain power and to do what it wanted and to conquer the world.

Your reasoning is infantile.


15 posted on 03/30/2012 5:01:58 AM PDT by rurgan (Make all laws have an expiration date of 3 years. too many laws is the problem)
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To: EnglishCon
As referred to previously, I had 3 months in Thailand, looking into child prostitution (sometimes I hate my job!). A good 90% of their “clients” were supposed Christians from the USA or from Europe.

I am not what you would call rational on this point, and every culture has these scum.

I don't doubt for a minute that "every culture has these scum". I read of babies still in diapers being raped, right here in our own country but it isn't encouraged, normalized by a religion, or socially approved of and it's illegal.

Yes, I know that it is fairly common in Thailand to have child prostitutes and they have plenty of customers from all over the world, at that I believe it's still illegal even there. Maybe the laws aren't enforced enough though.

I'm talking about a religion that teaches or approves of a 5 year old being forced to marry. There may be another that I don't know about but Islam is the only one I can think of off hand and forced marriage of children is what this article speaks of.

16 posted on 03/30/2012 5:02:27 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Haggai 1, V6.. and he that earneth wages earneth wages to put it into a bag with holes. (My plight))
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To: EnglishCon

And when they do so they act *against* the teachings of Christ.

When Muhammedans marry and rape little children they do so with the approval of Muhammed’s teachings, and are following his example.

All religions/cultures are not equal, and it is sad you have become so blinded that you can’t see that.


17 posted on 03/30/2012 5:04:22 AM PDT by LastNorwegian
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To: Graybeard58; EnglishCon

Sex with children is illegal in Thailand. The trade mostly exists because of tourists who go there for that purpose.

Sex with children is NOT illegal in many countries, mostly those dominated by Islam. After all their prophet did it, why shouldn’t they.


18 posted on 03/30/2012 5:06:38 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: EnglishCon

the cowards that hide behind morality while being totally immoral.


Pedos flock to organizations where they can get easy access to children. Public schools, churches, boy scouts, etc. They actually organize a molestation ring and protection amongst themselves once they infiltrate. It can be national or international. Sometimes they create service organizations for children so they can get access to and molest children as occurred at Penn State.

This does not mean the churches are evil by nature. Evil attacks the organizations that serve the ideals of Christ through the children. It’s awful.


19 posted on 03/30/2012 5:08:20 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: EnglishCon

The mind reels as it attempts to reject processing this information...


20 posted on 03/30/2012 5:13:20 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: EnglishCon

EnglishCon - so glad your on this forum! I wish we heard more from our FRiends across the pond. Thanks for posting!


21 posted on 03/30/2012 5:14:38 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Caipirabob; EnglishCon
Your = You're... *sigh*

And I promise to occasionally write in English...

22 posted on 03/30/2012 5:15:32 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: EnglishCon
I am not what you would call rational on this point, and every culture has these scum.

The fundamental difference is that our culture condemns it, while Islamic culture celebrates it. This means that the occurrence in their culture cannot help but be much higher.

One issue with Islamic culture is the concept of bride-price (mahr), where the prospective husband is supposed to hand over an amount of wealth to the wife (in actuality, the wife's father). A non-virgin commands a far-lower price, which provides an incentive to get the girl married off before adolescence.

23 posted on 03/30/2012 5:17:48 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: EnglishCon

Judging from the [Islam appeaser] liberal BBC’s title you’d think we speak about a Catholic monastery...


24 posted on 03/30/2012 5:26:17 AM PDT by PRePublic (9)
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To: EnglishCon

Islam under Sharia Law still permits and even condones slavery, as long as non-muslms are the ones captured and enslaved.

But let’s not mention that fact.

Sheesh.


25 posted on 03/30/2012 5:36:04 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: rurgan

Gee, married at 6 but Mo didn’t mount her until she was 9. /sarc!


26 posted on 03/30/2012 6:11:26 AM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: EnglishCon

What other significant and fast growing minority group in the UK is doing this besides Muslims? What other religion follows a pedophile prophet?


27 posted on 03/30/2012 6:23:43 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: driftdiver

“This is taking place in the UK, and people are worried about knee jerk reactions?”

This is happening wherever muslims live it’s just that the UK has realised it and has set up a task force to deal with it rather than cow to political correctness and try to ignore it.


28 posted on 03/30/2012 6:24:49 AM PDT by Caulkhead
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To: aces

Islam thnks your kids are HAWT.

and the dhimmi press will avoid pointing it out


29 posted on 03/30/2012 6:29:13 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: EnglishCon

The total horror is happening BECAUSE of a religion and you want us to ignore that? Germans buried people alive in concentration camps - and you would want us to focus on the horror of being buried alive RATHER than the evil behind it? Too weird for my taste.


30 posted on 03/30/2012 6:33:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: EnglishCon

It is always a problem but Islam makes it okay. No other religion approves of it.

To blame “every religion” is retarded.

To blame atheists for mass murder? 100 million were murdered by atheist commies last century.

Just don’t go to Japan. Did you know kiddie porn possession was still legal in Tokyo and Nagano?? yuck. pervertland.


31 posted on 03/30/2012 6:35:06 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: EnglishCon

Gimme a break.


32 posted on 03/30/2012 6:36:29 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: EnglishCon
on the Thai child prostitute thing and it disillusioned me on every religion

Silly. This story shocks people and makes them mad because it is NOT acceptable to those of us raised in the Judeo-Christian tradition. It is not normal, it was NOT norma when the UK was a Christian country.

33 posted on 03/30/2012 6:36:56 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Graybeard58

Didn’t the Ayatollah Khomenei write a book that described HOW to rape a baby or child the right way??


34 posted on 03/30/2012 6:39:42 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: PRePublic

Islam is the only organized religion, and its abig one, that openly APPROVES of pedophilia and slavery and a bunch of other crap.


35 posted on 03/30/2012 6:41:20 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: EnglishCon
A good 90% of their “clients” were supposed Christians from the USA or from Europe.

CINOs- Christians in name only.

36 posted on 03/30/2012 7:08:45 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: EnglishCon

Contrary to what you wish to believe this stuff is commonplace in muslim countries.

http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=951:bizarre-saga-of-pakistani-hindu-girls-abduction-forcible-conversion-to-islam-and-marriage-to-a-muslim-gangster&catid=103:islam

Nowhere except in muslim countries will you find incidents like this. And yet we have examples like this throughout the muslim world... Look up Aneela and Saba Younas for instance... Islam is the problem. Always has been, always will be, no matter the time or place. What you are seeing is the inevitable result of the muslim mass migration to our countries.


37 posted on 03/30/2012 7:14:19 AM PDT by LastNorwegian
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...Thailand, looking into child prostitution.... A good 90% of their “clients” were supposed Christians from the USA or from Europe.

I hope you have taken note in your life that no-one is born Christian or becomes a Christian through ethnicity or even through church attendance or saying they are a Christian outwardly in the attempt to impress others. A true follower of Christ's teachings is most likely a needle in a haystack -- someone who has made a heartfelt, private conversion alone with the Lord.

I would venture a guess that only one-tenth or fewer of so-called adherents to ANY religion actually understand and attempt to follow their own scriptures. Same goes with critics of religions -- they criticize the flawed humans rather than actually reading the words of scripture to make an informed evaluation of the religion itself. (And now, with the fascist movement to criminalize critical evaluation of Islam, it will be increasingly difficult to do so.)

Religion does not and cannot make people perfect or sinless. The best it can offer is a humility (knowing that everyone falls short), an attitude of forgiveness towards one's fellow man (in that none of us is perfect), and repentance realized privately in prayer (whether one goes formally to confession or not).

38 posted on 03/30/2012 9:15:39 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: rurgan
Muhammad the prophet of Islam married a 6 year old girl.This is why Muslims do this and war etc. : because they follow Muhamad’s example and the Koran.

Islam is a bunch of lies . Muhammad invented it to gain power and to do perverse things such as marrying a 6 year old girl.


You are 100% right. Islam is an evil religion born out of the pits of hell by Satan himself.

Right next to Mormonism, Islam puts the followers on a fast track to hell where a final death awaits their soul.
39 posted on 03/30/2012 9:48:06 AM PDT by OneVike ((Just a Christian waiting to go home) internet ID:: impeachobamanow)
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To: Albion Wilde
Well put.

I am always reminded of what Corrie ten Boom's father told her when their Lutheran minister warned them not to disobey the Nazi dictates, and do not help the Jews. Corrie asked her father how the minister could do such an evil thing. Her father responded,

Just because you find a mouse in the cookie jar does not make it a cookie!

40 posted on 03/30/2012 9:54:43 AM PDT by OneVike ((Just a Christian waiting to go home) internet ID:: impeachobamanow)
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To: Albion Wilde; All

Aye, I know. There are a lot of people who take the Lord’s name in vain the opposite way, using it as a cover for whatever they wish to do.
The story just depressed me badly - I tend to be pretty primal when it comes to kids, protect them or die trying level, so this sort of thing drives me up the wall.

In post one I didn’t mean lets not talk about Islam, I meant lets talk about it without doing the usual dismissive comments. Most people got the idea, and I thank you all for that. This is an evil thing. It happens and it should not.

I plead tiredness and rage if it wasn’t clear!


41 posted on 03/30/2012 10:50:20 AM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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I am not sure what HAWT is but I have no respect for Islam, but I do have pity on the people imprisoned by their rulers...wait sounds like what America is doing...aw hell...


42 posted on 03/30/2012 11:27:59 AM PDT by aces
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To: EnglishCon

Agreed....


43 posted on 03/30/2012 11:29:20 AM PDT by aces
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To: aces

We have to remember that in most tyrannies its not the people who are the enemy but the government, like say North Korea.... but with Islam it’s the whole stinking ideology.


44 posted on 03/30/2012 11:39:21 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: rurgan

often you’ll see perverts using a “religion” to legitamize their perversions....we’ve seen it before...


45 posted on 03/30/2012 1:19:51 PM PDT by cherry
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"Hooters" that famed family restaurant inviting to all women and children was founded by a nice Christian Presbyterian wasn't it?....

the total disconnect between true Christian beliefs and values and the way people rationalize their own immorality is just so disgusting...

46 posted on 03/30/2012 1:22:53 PM PDT by cherry
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To: EnglishCon

“but lets not slam just on Islam.”

Why? What other group of people expect marriage with a child and practice such a nasty thing world wide?


47 posted on 03/30/2012 2:18:29 PM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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