Skip to comments.Will Florida Prosecute Holder's People?
Posted on 03/30/2012 5:14:10 AM PDT by SJackson
For those of you who have been wondering, yes, it is probably illegal for the New Black Panthers to offer a 'dead or alive" reward for George Zimmerman. Over at Pajamas Media, J. Christian Adams, the former justice department lawyer who resigned in protest against Eric Holder's refusal to prosecute this same NBPP organization for voter intimidation in Philadelphia, has spelled out just how the hate group's actions may be prosecutable by Florida authorities:
So what crimes may have the New Black Panthers committed in Florida with their threats toward George Zimmerman?
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Additionally, according to Adams, Trayvon Martin, himself, may have been in violation of an "oddball" Florida law which accords protections to those individuals engaged in neighborhood watch activities. The existence of such a law carries with it the possibility that Martin, whether or not he was otherwise innocent of any criminal intent, violated Florida law by aggressively challenging Zimmerman's inquiries.
I guess Tray can't be charged now.
Did you know about this law?
Maybe they can charge the thousands of idiots who have claimed, “I am Trayvon”.
Looks like his mother might sue them for trademark infringement, as she has filed for a trademark on the phrase. I guess the apple didn’t fall far from the tree.
So far, the NBPP is playing with house money. They cannot lose no matter what they do or say. Should one of their outrages result in counter-violence by their intended victim, we’ll see how fast they run to the (in)Justice Dept. looking for protection.
They are loud and mouthy because no one has hit back yet. If and when it happens they will begin to learn the virtue of silence. A long overdue lesson, IMHO.
Local newspapers are standing firmly with the lawless lynch mob - a group no different than the KKK. Why? Because just like newspapers did in the South's racist past, they STAND WITH THE "IN" MEME. When white racists ideas ruled - they backed white racists. When black racists ideas rule, they stand with them. Lowlifes.
Here is that law:
843.20 Harassment of participant of neighborhood crime watch program prohibited; penalty; definitions.--2011 Florida Statutes - Chapter 843 OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE
(1) It shall be a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, for any person to willfully harass, threaten, or intimidate an identifiable member of a neighborhood crime watch program while such member is engaged in, or traveling to or from, an organized neighborhood crime watch program activity or a member who is participating in an ongoing criminal investigation, as designated by a law enforcement officer.
(2) As used in this section, the term:
(a) "Harass" means to engage in a course of conduct directed at a specific person which causes substantial emotional distress in that person and serves no legitimate purpose.
(b) "Organized neighborhood crime watch program activity" means any prearranged event, meeting, or other scheduled activity, or neighborhood patrol, conducted by or at the direction of a neighborhood crime watch program or the program's authorized designee. History.--s. 2, ch. 2004-18.
If Zimmerman's account is true, Trayvon was in the process of committing felony battery.
Trayvon was probably not committing an infraction against 843.20, because Zimmerman was not engaged in the organized neighborhood watch, nor investigating pursuant to an ongoing investigation designated by a law enforcement officer.
I hate references like that ~
So, how is that USAG’s investigation into the solicitation of kidnapping and murder going?
I’m holding my breath over here....
For anyone interested, the phone number to the Fla AG, Pam Bondi,is 850-245-0150. There is also an email form on her website to submit a complaint.... not enforcing the law is certainly grounds for a complaint.
I have a couple of issues with what you just stated.
First: You mentioned "local newspapers". In my humble opinion it is the "local newspapers" who are much more accurate in coverage of the events surrounding Trayvon's death. The National Main Stream Media are the people who are race baiting and intentionally distorting and inflaming this issue.
Second: Just what time period are you referring to about the Souths racist past? And the "South" in not the same in all locals. Such a broad brush painting of the South as racists is a distortion of reality.
784.03 Battery; felony battery.--2011 Florida Statutes - F.S. 784.03
(1)(a) The offense of battery occurs when a person:
1. Actually and intentionally touches or strikes another person against the will of the other; or
2. Intentionally causes bodily harm to another person.
(b) Except as provided in subsection (2), a person who commits battery commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
(2) A person who has one prior conviction for battery, aggravated battery, or felony battery and who commits any second or subsequent battery commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. For purposes of this subsection, "conviction" means a determination of guilt that is the result of a plea or a trial, regardless of whether adjudication is withheld or a plea of nolo contendere is entered.
Or, if Trayvon was attempting to disarm Zimmerman, see this statute:
784.045 Aggravated battery.--2011 Florida Statutes - F.S. 784.045
(1)(a) A person commits aggravated battery who, in committing battery:
1. Intentionally or knowingly causes great bodily harm, permanent disability, or permanent disfigurement; or
2. Uses a deadly weapon.
(b) A person commits aggravated battery if the person who was the victim of the battery was pregnant at the time of the offense and the offender knew or should have known that the victim was pregnant.
(2) Whoever commits aggravated battery shall be guilty of a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
If Trayvon was alive, he'd be charged with a crime.
But I doubt the shysters will be put off by these concepts. They are too busy pretending a man with a Spanish-speaking Peruvian mother is not a true Hispanic and that bashing someone's head against the sidewalk is not potentially lethal force.
Pam Biondi is a hottie AG with higher aspirations. It will be interesting to see what she does(or doesn’t).
You've earned all the ridicule you get, and for every person reading your posts who comments, there are ten or more that detest you behind your back. You are a thug enabler. A bad person. Somebody that no decent person would want to associate with.
Agree with both assertions. Some are saying Zimmerman had no rights because he wasn't "officially" on-duty, but I don't see how a concerned community RESIDENT would not be allowed to watch strangers hanging around their home turf.
Hopefully (if you believe Zimmerman) It can be demonstrated that he made no hostile moves before Martin attacked him. What has come out so far seems to tip things in Zimmerman's defense.
Well, the people who argue that Trayvon has some sort of legal protection are wrong. Clearly wrong. The law takes a VERY dim view of the person throwing the first punch, and being followed at a distance is certainly not justification for approaching that person and cold cocking them.
Trayvon was committing a felony. Would likely have been plead down to misdemeanor battery, had he survived.
And there are people, I agree, who think the battery law should be stricken so people have a right to hit first, out of being annoyed or angry.
She can choose the Nifong route, or she can choose to be objective. The facts that she is privy to will come out if she decides to try Zimmerman, and she will be as much in the spotlight as Zimmerman is now.